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FISA memo set to end collusion investigation

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ExpandMyMind
10 minutes ago, skliss said:

Maybe he's not revising it because he really doesn't want it released. It could be that nothing in it actually  refutes the Nunes memo. That way he can whine and wail that Trump is hiding something when it can't be released for security reasons. It's all about illusion and playing politics, nothing about actually doing the jobs we elect them to do.

I guess we'll see very soon.

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Sir Wearer of Hats
6 hours ago, and then said:

In the polarized state of our politics these days, it might lead to civil unrest.  The integrity of our legal system would be well worth it if it comes to that.  I have the feeling that the dirt is so widespread that if these guys begin turning on each other it's going to be like crime families going to war with each other.  Sickening.  We need TERM LIMITS and a thoroughly revamped civil service structure.  There should be no lifetime civil service jobs, IMO.

I’d also have “professional development competencies” for the civil service that includes cyber—security.

AND employ “rat catchers” who spend their time pretending to be lobbyists and “foreign businessmen”. Anyone who they trick into taking a bribe gets the boot, anyone who reports one gets a bonus.

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Merc14
2 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

I’d also have “professional development competencies” for the civil service that includes cyber—security.

AND employ “rat catchers” who spend their time pretending to be lobbyists and “foreign businessmen”. Anyone who they trick into taking a bribe gets the boot, anyone who reports one gets a bonus.

All federal employees, including the Secretary of State, are already getting cybersecurity training which means ignorance is not an excuse if classified material is mishandled. 

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Paranormal Panther
14 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

It likely will be the fizzle not heard around the world. It likely won't even be heard around the corner. ;)

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ExpandMyMind
41 minutes ago, Paranormal Panther said:

It likely will be the fizzle not heard around the world. It likely won't even be heard around the corner. ;)

Ah. Like the Republican one.

We'll see.

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Merc14
54 minutes ago, Paranormal Panther said:

It likely will be the fizzle not heard around the world. It likely won't even be heard around the corner. ;)

Expandmyhead needs to check the time of the two stories. 

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ellapenella
7 hours ago, Merc14 said:

I don't think it is relevant to this case for two reasons, first his job back then was not oversight it was Chief of Staff and he would be obligated to do as his boss tells him to, in that case defend the FBI.  Second, it looked like a squabble between the FBI , which had screwed up royally in the Whitey Bulger debacle but they didn't need congress to fix the problem of a dirty agent.  Honestly, I don't want to discuss Horowitz because there is no point to it until his report is delivered. 

Yeah, I get that that was a while ago.  I'm trying  figure the guy out, He's the only one that I'm uncertain about , all the others on Mueller's team I'm certain about , not saying he's on that team but like for example "fast and furious"  he found Holder to be blameless. 

eta

I know, we wait and see, how exciting.

 

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Merc14
6 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

Yeah, I get that that was a while ago.  I'm trying  figure the guy out, He's the only one that I'm uncertain about , all the others on Mueller's team I'm certain about , not saying he's on that team but like for example "fast and furious"  he found Holder to be blameless. 

 

Yeah that is a bit worrisome but after reading what he said it looks like he was being honest.   Darrell Issa, no friend of the Obama administration called the report courageous.    I'll wait and hope the man delivers an honest, thoughtful and fully researched report.

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ExpandMyMind
3 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

Expandmyhead needs to check the time of the two stories. 

I'm fully aware of the time of the two stories, since I was the one who posted both of them.

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Astra.
13 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Ah. Like the Republican one.

We'll see.

Yes, either way. I'd say that this thread will go ballistic after this particular memo is finally released.

It might also be advisable to wear a raincoat once the s*** hits the fan. :yes:..

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.ZZ.
14 minutes ago, Astra. said:

Yes, either way. I'd say that this thread will go ballistic after this particular memo is finally released.

It might also be advisable to wear a raincoat once the s*** hits the fan. :yes:..

Hip waders too. ;)

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Merc14

I am guessing Schiff thinks he'll get more mileage out of whining and complaining about not being allowed to release classified info than he would releasing a memo that changes nothing the Nunes memo said.  His main problem will be pontificating about how the republicans are trampling the wonderful FBI while simultaneously calling them Trump lackeys

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Here is a theory, how about if Strzok, Page, Ohr, Baker and Priestap?  All have been demoted but none fired and none of them brought before the HPSCI and made to testify, why?   HPSCI hasn't grilled them yet we know a helluva lot about what they were doing, how?   No other committee has grilled them either so what is going in.  How about all five have flipped and are singing to Horowitz?  What if they were escorted to a room, told not to say a word until they have an attorney and when the attorney arrives he or she is handed a letter detailing just how screwed their client is and their only way out is if they cooperate fully  When they agreed to cooperate they were told they will get somewhere to sit at their offices, that they would report to work everyday and when called upon tell the investigator everything they know and that the minute they clammed up they would be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Why is Nunes allowing these people avoid testifying before the committee, especially when democrats are complaining?  How about he and Horowitz know that anything that is said in front of the democrats will be leaked in a harmful way by noodle neck Schiff?  It's obvious Schiff cares nothing about the damage that has been done to the nation by this event, he cares only about preserving the DNC and Obama's "legacy" as poor as it is.

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Astra.

Good grief, 'some' folk seem to be overly focused on Mr Schiffs neck for some reason. The poor man can't help what type of neck he has, just like Mr Trump can't help his hair or hands. I'm sure that many of us aren't exactly oil paintings either. :rolleyes:..

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Uncle Sam
6 hours ago, ExpandMyMind said:

What they should have done in the first place instead of putting classified information in there, forcing Trump to send back.

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DieChecker
47 minutes ago, Uncle Sam said:

What they should have done in the first place instead of putting classified information in there, forcing Trump to send back.

It was a stupid political stunt. Anyone with half a brain should see that.

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Uncle Sam
39 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

It was a stupid political stunt. Anyone with half a brain should see that.

I knew it was a political stunt, knew they would do this before it went to their desk. It was predictable what they were going to do...

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ExpandMyMind
1 hour ago, DieChecker said:

It was a stupid political stunt. Anyone with half a brain should see that.

 

1 hour ago, Uncle Sam said:

I knew it was a political stunt, knew they would do this before it went to their desk. It was predictable what they were going to do...

You guys really don't see the hypocrisy of those statements after the Republican "bombshells"?

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DieChecker
25 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

 

You guys really don't see the hypocrisy of those statements after the Republican "bombshells"?

Go back and read what I wrote about the first memo....

No hypocrisy from me... I expected a bombshell and got a fistful of firecrackers, and said so.

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ExpandMyMind
3 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Go back and read what I wrote about the first memo....

No hypocrisy from me... I expected a bombshell and got a fistful of firecrackers, and said so.

So you acknowledged that it was all about politicking, rather than substance?

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DieChecker
16 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

So you acknowledged that it was all about politicking, rather than substance?

Oh, it was political, for sure. But I'd not say entirely. There was some actual stuff worth pursuing in the gravy that was spread around. It does look, to me, like Comey was hiding some stuff, and now some of it might be coming out. 

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18 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Oh, it was political, for sure. But I'd not say entirely. There was some actual stuff worth pursuing in the gravy that was spread around. It does look, to me, like Comey was hiding some stuff, and now some of it might be coming out. 

Hiding stuff? Like what?

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DieChecker
26 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Hiding stuff? Like what?

I'm not sure yet. AFAIK there is investigation into if there are any actual FISA abuses, correct? If there are found to be abuses, then they were hiding stuff...

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