+Hammerclaw Posted January 24, 2018 #151 Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, XenoFish said: The smell of pessimism coming from this. It's delightful. More like humility. Even David had his moments. Psalm 8:3-6King James Version (KJV) 3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; 4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? 5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. 6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcion Meets E. Sibyl Posted January 24, 2018 #152 Share Posted January 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, intoyoulikeatrain said: Does Christian mysticism have discipleship like in yoga? A Christian mystic follows Christ. And fellowship is not discipleship. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted January 24, 2018 #153 Share Posted January 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, Ehrman Pagels 1 said: A Christian mystic follows Christ. And fellowship is not discipleship. You read like Elaine or my Aunt Emma. Are you a Quaker or are you actually someone from Princeton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 24, 2018 #154 Share Posted January 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, intoyoulikeatrain said: Does Christian mysticism have discipleship like in yoga? Discipleship like yoga? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted January 24, 2018 #155 Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Podo said: Odin? Vishnu? Aten? Tengrii? Tengrii can be more described as "Creation", "The Universe" or "The Heavens" The concept evolved into the Chinese concept "Tian" (The Heavens). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted January 24, 2018 #156 Share Posted January 24, 2018 27 minutes ago, intoyoulikeatrain said: Does Christian mysticism have discipleship like in yoga? Nothing I know exactly parallels yoga. The closest is Christian monasticism and asceticism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted January 24, 2018 #157 Share Posted January 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scudbuster said: Give a listen to bible scholar Francesca Stavrakopoulou.....she can explain it quite succinctly: If you need someone to explain the Bible, and you're an atheist, then there really isn't much you understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podo Posted January 24, 2018 #158 Share Posted January 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, Piney said: Tengrii can be more described as "Creation", "The Universe" or "The Heavens" The concept evolved into the Chinese concept "Tian" (The Heavens). True! There are parts of the world where it is worshipped in a more personified way, however, such as Mongolia and parts of Turkey. Them crazy turkiks and their blue-sky god. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcion Meets E. Sibyl Posted January 24, 2018 #159 Share Posted January 24, 2018 44 minutes ago, Piney said: You read like Elaine or my Aunt Emma. Are you a Quaker or are you actually someone from Princeton. I'm not a Quaker, but I like the path. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted January 24, 2018 #160 Share Posted January 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, Podo said: True! There are parts of the world where it is worshipped in a more personified way, however, such as Mongolia and parts of Turkey. Them crazy turkiks and their blue-sky god. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted January 24, 2018 #161 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Ehrman Pagels 1 said: I'm not a Quaker, but I like the path. I'm a Hicksite-Deist of the Amos Peaslee vein and the last living member of the founding families of the Mickleton Monthly Meeting. Basically I'm the last "Old Line" birthright. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted January 24, 2018 #162 Share Posted January 24, 2018 5 hours ago, XenoFish said: Here's a good question: Why should I believe? If you have no reason to, maybe you shouldn’t. I don’t have a problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 24, 2018 #163 Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Guyver said: If you have no reason to, maybe you shouldn’t. I don’t have a problem with that. Then would you kindly explain to me the need some have to try an guilt trip me about not having 'faith'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted January 24, 2018 #164 Share Posted January 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Then would you kindly explain to me the need some have to try an guilt trip me about not having 'faith'. It's the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted January 24, 2018 #165 Share Posted January 24, 2018 29 minutes ago, XenoFish said: gThen would you kindly explain to me the need some have to try an guilt trip me about not having 'faith'. Savior complex. If you don't believe (in their minds) you are lost and need saving. If they can convert you they have done a good deed and saved you from frying in the Lake of Fire forever. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthseeker007 Posted January 24, 2018 #166 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Will Due said: No, if you're a real seeker of truth, I mean the person you will eventually find waiting for you behind the door inside your soul he's knocking on. Sorry I don't believe in the Bible Jesus and I have found that through my own research. I was a Christian at one time so I have been there and done that. No Jesus will be knocking at my soul and I can promise you that. Edited January 24, 2018 by Truthseeker007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted January 24, 2018 #167 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Truthseeker007 said: Sorry I don't believe in the Bible Jesus and I have found that through my own research. I was a Christian at one time so I have been there and done that. No Jesus will be knocking at my soul at I can promise you that. That wasn't my experience at all. But it did take time to recognize him, to get to know him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthseeker007 Posted January 24, 2018 #168 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Will Due said: That wasn't my experience at all. But it did take time to recognize him, to get to know him. Yes the Sun does give life and walks on water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted January 24, 2018 #169 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Truthseeker007 said: Yes the Sun does give life and walks on water. Yes, the Son is the source of life and happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthseeker007 Posted January 24, 2018 #170 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, Will Due said: Yes, the Son is the source of life and happiness. You mean your imaginary friend the Son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted January 24, 2018 #171 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Truthseeker007 said: You mean your imaginary friend the Son. No, your friend who you're imagining isn't knocking at your door. Edited January 24, 2018 by Will Due Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthseeker007 Posted January 24, 2018 #172 Share Posted January 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Will Due said: No, your friend who's knocking at your door. You have a lot to learn Mr.Due. Have fun with your imaginary friend. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted January 24, 2018 #173 Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Truthseeker007 said: You have a lot to learn Mr.Due. Have fun with your imaginary friend. I too have hope. That your imaginations eventually lead you to finding the Truth that you're seeking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted January 25, 2018 #174 Share Posted January 25, 2018 On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 0:13 AM, Will Due said: In a way the Bible is just a reference book, like they all are, including the Urantia Book. What anyone can know about the truth about God and living a true religious life comes from being in contact with God's divine presense which dwells within at the center of each of our being. This is where the source of the true knowledge exists and all the books, myths and legends, including the many great books of fiction like Tolkien's and even TV shows like Star Trek, movies like Close Encounters, when put all together, the indwelling Spirit uses them to present a very clear picture of what is real, and what isn't. This has been my experience in helping me to understand what I know is true about God. tell us what you know is true about God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted January 25, 2018 #175 Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 10:41 AM, Jon the frog said: That's awesome ! Is it from you? Lyrics from Tim Minchin's song Thank You God. Sorry, I figured everyone had heard it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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