psyche101 Posted February 14, 2018 #1151 Share Posted February 14, 2018 39 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Hey Dude .. Extrapolate My Vocation .. Lol..ok .. I Know Energy.. You said your work gives you insight so what gives you insight? 39 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Oh yip .. Are they Myths, are they .? Or are they so enduring, to this Day , because, they Ring True, in This Day and Age .. More because some of us are afraid to let go. 39 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Answer Me This please ...? Why , is S C I E N C E, afraid, of the Future ...? Mo..xx Science is the future, its the present, its the past. It has no boundary, no agenda. Its like a shark, it doesn't eat you because it hates you, it's just what it does. Good or bad it's transparent. My turn. Why do you fear it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 14, 2018 #1152 Share Posted February 14, 2018 34 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Ha ha ha ha.. *Zero* ... Scientific, Approved, Zero Evidence , of a Non Afterlife... That they dont know about, but mock, none the less, ... Science and Data, K N O W ..the Truth .. Ok people ... This Is The Truth .. Honest ..... Lolz .. No.. Not really ha ha ha ... Mo ..xx Floors yours Mo. Where is the evidence? The mind is the brain. The brain is made of atoms. We know how atoms work. There is no way for what is 'you' to survive death. Please feel free to show me something to prove that wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 14, 2018 #1153 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, psyche101 said: You said your work gives you insight so what gives you insight? More because some of us are afraid to let go. Science is the future, its the present, its the past. It has no boundary, no agenda. Its like a shark, it doesn't eat you because it hates you, it's just what it does. Good or bad it's transparent. My turn. Why do you fear it? Energy gives me insight, so does feeling... I know, your all not for " hysterical reasoning". Why afraid..?Too much control..? Science is Part future, part nothing.. Because without meaning, it has No Purpose.. Good or Bad, is... Perspective of the Individual, Collectively..? If you understand that ....then you may get it ...hmm.. Why do I fear it ..? I Do Not ... It Fears Me, and My Mind... Because it is afraid of losing its ...place... What Myths ..? Mo..xx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted February 14, 2018 #1154 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) If someone wants to say that our souls are electromagnetic, then there's a problem with that. The earths magnetic field dwarves our own. It would be like comparing a fridge magnet (us) to an neodymium magnet (earth). We'd vanish once the power source is cut off. Quote ..these fields are minuscule…Plus, remember the inverse square law: the intensity of an energy wave radiating from a source is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from that source…The brain’s magnetic field of 10–15 teslas quickly dissipates from the skull and is promptly swamped by other magneticsources, not to mention the earth’s magnetic field of 10–5 teslas, which overpowers it by 10 orders of magnitude! Source: http://guardianlv.com/2014/02/the-secret-law-of-attraction-doesnt-work-heres-proof/ This is also the reason LOA doesn't work. Just to add. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/energy Edited February 14, 2018 by XenoFish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrius Posted February 14, 2018 Author #1155 Share Posted February 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, psyche101 said: Facts are repeatable on demand. Facts offer prediction (like when the moon will rise) facts resolve mathematically. Eyewitness testimony is fallible because we are. The man made constructs your pushing can't live up to any of the above because man is fallible. Repeatability and predictability are the best guides we have available to us. Convoluting that with imagination is just pointless. Is it a fact that consciousness is a product of a brain, and that brain is not only a receiver and interpretor of cosmic consciousness? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 14, 2018 #1156 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Ha ha ha ha.. Ho ho ho ho Quote *Zero* ... Scientific, Approved, Zero Evidence , of a Non Afterlife... Yes. Either some strange force has managed to evade every scientific avenue and thousands of experiments, across all recorded history and remains unable to detect with any instrument Or People hallucinate when near death. Dunno Mo, the latter seem a heck of a lot simpler and more likely. Quote That they dont know about, but mock, none the less, ... Don't know about what? Inner spirituality? Meditation? The spirit realm? Nobody is stopping anyone from showing this is true. 'take my word for it' is just too much to ask of anyone if you are bring genuine. Quote Science and Data, K N O W ..the Truth .. Ok people ... This Is The Truth .. Yes, observation repeatability and predictability are mountains more convincing than "trust me" Quote Honest ..... Lolz .. No.. Not really ha ha ha ... Mo ..xx Yeah, really really. Edited February 14, 2018 by psyche101 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 14, 2018 #1157 Share Posted February 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, psyche101 said: Floors yours Mo. Where is the evidence? The mind is the brain. The brain is made of atoms. We know how atoms work. There is no way for what is 'you' to survive death. Please feel free to show me something to prove that wrong. Ha ha .. Not just the floor ..? Are you trying to Limit Me ..? The "evidence" .. Ohhh... Well , you dont get it .. There is No Way, for DEATH TO SURVIVE..????? how would you know..? Huh psyche.? What ever links you provide, means Nada, to your stance or position.. Because your just .... Guessing, with your verifiable scientific proofs... That means, .. Nothing... Soz.. .. Mo..xx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 14, 2018 #1158 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, psyche101 said: Ho ho ho ho Yes. Either some strange force has managed to evade every scientific avenue and thousands of experiments, across all recorded history and remains unable to detect with any instrumental Or People hallucinate when near death. Dunno Mo, the latter seem a heck of a lot simpler and more likely. Don't know about what? Inner spirituality? Meditation? The spirit realm? Nobody is stopping anyone from showing this is true. 'take my word for it' is just too much to ask of anyone if you are bring genuine. Yes, observation repeatability and predictability are mountains more convincing than "trust me" Yeah, really really. Yeah ... Really...really ... Ok ... People hallucinate when Near Death... Ha ha Ha ho ha ha ho ho he .... Hi ho hi ho, its off to work you go .. You dont know anything my friend.. Honest.. You think you do .. But ..you dont .. Mo..xx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted February 14, 2018 #1159 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Truthseeker007 said: What are facts? We assume facts are facts but just because somebody says it is a fact don't mean it is. If you have two people at a crime scene they will give you different versions of the facts. It is the Elephant in the room and everybody sees a different version of the fact they say is. Some people see shape shifting lizard men. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 14, 2018 #1160 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, Rlyeh said: Some people see shape shifting lizard men. Do they ...good for them.. What do you see ..? Mo..xx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrius Posted February 14, 2018 Author #1161 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, MauriOra said: People hallucinate when Near Death... Ha ha Ha ho ha ha ho ho he 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 14, 2018 #1162 Share Posted February 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Energy gives me insight, so does feeling... I know, your all not for " hysterical reasoning". Mo, reasoning isn't hysterical. That in fact is why it's called reasoning. 11 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Why afraid..?Too much control..? Who you or me and control of what? 11 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Science is Part future, part nothing.. Because without meaning, it has No Purpose.. It has predictability and repeatability. That's meaning that's purpose right there. 11 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Good or Bad, is... Perspective of the Individual, Collectively..? No. If someone steals a handbag fromm an innocent, if someone takes an innocent life, there is no perspective, we know it is instinctively bad. 11 minutes ago, MauriOra said: If you understand that ....then you may get it ...hmm.. Are you sure about that? 11 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Why do I fear it ..? I Do Not ... It Fears Me, and My Mind... Because it is afraid of losing its ...place... What Myths ..? Mo..xx That's what you fear. It has erroded many myths already that many believed for centuries. And at the same time gave us artificial limbs and defibrillators. I'm yet to see somone meditate or pray an arm or a leg back, let alone do that for others with repeatability and predictability. Seems to me science is what's helping us out here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 14, 2018 #1163 Share Posted February 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, Illyrius said: Is it a fact that consciousness is a product of a brain, and that brain is not only a receiver and interpretor of cosmic consciousness? Is that yodaspeak? If I understand it, no. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 14, 2018 #1164 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, Illyrius said: Geez.. Is it.....Charlton Heston.. Maybe..maybe not... He don't got Guns..hmm... Mo..xx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 14, 2018 #1165 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, psyche101 said: Seems to me science is what's helping us out here. Yeah ... Helping us, right out of our Right Mind. Thanks .. Mo ..xx 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted February 14, 2018 #1166 Share Posted February 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Do they ...good for them.. What do you see ..? Mo..xx A fool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 14, 2018 #1167 Share Posted February 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, psyche101 said: Are you sure about that? That's what you fear. Um .... Are You .? Ha ha ha ha I Fear Nothing.... So ok .. If thats what you think .. Bring it On ..honest... Mo.. xx 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 14, 2018 #1168 Share Posted February 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Ha ha .. Not just the floor ..? Are you trying to Limit Me ..? Your on the Internet global audience. That should be sufficient for now. 12 minutes ago, MauriOra said: The "evidence" .. Ohhh... Well , you dont get it .. I reckon I do, but you keep making vague statements like this. With all due respect, it's along the lines of used car sales. Trust me.......... 12 minutes ago, MauriOra said: There is No Way, for DEATH TO SURVIVE..????? how would you know..? Huh psyche.? Like I said The mind is the brsin The brain is made of atoms We know how atoms work There is no way to preserve that intricate construction Its that simple. 12 minutes ago, MauriOra said: What ever links you provide, means Nada, to your stance or position.. Because your just .... Guessing, with your verifiable scientific proofs... That means, .. Nothing... Soz.. .. Mo..xx No, they mean things because of the predictability and repeatability they have behind them. It means they work. That's meaning not a cheesy line about inner knowledge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 14, 2018 #1169 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Rlyeh said: A fool. Step away from the Mirror.. Ok .. Mo..xx 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 14, 2018 #1170 Share Posted February 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, MauriOra said: Yeah ... Really...really ... Ok ... People hallucinate when Near Death... Ha ha Ha ho ha ha ho ho he .... Hi ho hi ho, its off to work you go .. That Is known reaction to oxygen deprivation. You don't have to trust you can go to your local uni join up and research it yourself, it's not hidden knowledge, you don't have to convince yourself, you don't have to believe anything. 16 minutes ago, MauriOra said: You dont know anything my friend.. Honest.. You think you do .. But ..you dont .. Mo..xx I have told you many times, no, I'm just a construction worker. I just take the time to listen to the good people who devote their entire existence to gaining knowledge. They make the world a better place with medicine education sanitation and charity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 14, 2018 #1171 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, psyche101 said: Your on the Internet global audience. That should be sufficient for now. I reckon I do, but you keep making vague statements like this. With all due respect, it's along the lines of used car sales. Trust me.......... Like I said The mind is the brsin The brain is made of atoms We know how atoms work There is no way to preserve that intricate construction Its that simple. No, they mean things because of the predictability and repeatability they have behind them. It means they work. That's meaning not a cheesy line about inner knowledge. If I'm a car salesman.., then Dude what are you..? Coz, you are up there too .. You know nothing of the After Life.. Aye .... You dont .. Predictability, and Repeatability.. Ha ha ha .. Isn't that ...ah ... Doctrine... Oh no .... Not at all ...huh... Its laughable ... Really .....really .... ...... Really ..... Mo.xx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrius Posted February 14, 2018 Author #1172 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, psyche101 said: That Is known reaction to oxygen deprivation. In a context of NDE this is just one more funny myth of "science". LOL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 14, 2018 #1173 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, psyche101 said: That Is known reaction to oxygen deprivation. You don't have to trust you can go to your local uni join up and research it yourself, it's not hidden knowledge, you don't have to convince yourself, you don't have to believe anything. I have told you many times, no, I'm just a construction worker. I just take the time to listen to the good people who devote their entire existence to gaining knowledge. They make the world a better place with medicine education sanitation and charity. Awww .. Construction Worker ..... Ok...people I'm your friend ... I'm a Lay man ....just like ....you all .. But I'm not .... I know the All of the Zero... And the Zero of it All .. I am All Knowing and So ....is my God... Ok...people... Trust in me ... Yea... Wateva... Mo..xx 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 14, 2018 #1174 Share Posted February 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, Illyrius said: Is it a fact that consciousness is a product of a brain, and that brain is not only a receiver and interpretor of cosmic consciousness? ... Y U P ...!!! Ha ha he he ho ho .. Mo..xx 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eight bits Posted February 14, 2018 #1175 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Illyrius Quote 1. Crystal-Clear Consciousness ... 9. Aftereffects ... All of which features are also found in selected dreams. Or, to be precise, features found in the recall of those dreams. Like dreams, VIBEs (very ill or injured brain episodes) are not observed until after the occasion ostensibly recalled, when consciousness is working well enough to recall them and to communicate what is recalled. Unlike dreams, VIBEs cannot be interrupted in progress so that the reports can be compared with ordinary ("morning after") reports. As evidence of living persons' consciousness during traumatic times, then, VIBEs are inadequate, inferior even to dream evidence of cognitive activity during normal sleep. There is no family-friendly forum term for what VIBEs are as "evidence" of consciousness among the dead. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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