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Intelligent Design: Evolution 2.0

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eight bits Erudite

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Crazy Horse

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I think that AI will have something very close to consciousness, but close and actual are too different things.

What would the difference between "close" and "actual" be? Is there perhaps a test of some kind?

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For example, lets imagine some futuristic world were robots look exactly like humans in every way, they talk, play, work and even fight like humans, but, would we actually consider them human?  

I am unsure what your hypothetical is. If there was no way to tell humans and robots apart? What would be the alternative to treating both of them alike?

If there was a way to tell them apart, then presumably we would consider them what they are: robots (and they would consider us what we are, humans). But if they are so much like us, then we could have personal relationships with them, even though we aren't the same, and at least some of us probably would.

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More like beating a dead horse. He's basically a Christian apologist who rejects the concept of the natural formation of DNA.

kmt_sesh
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No question, but a salient comment. Your stance is as arrogant as any atheist's might be. And I do believe there are many atheist families whose children are well adjusted and morally sound young peop

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No, there's definitely 'design' in our hand but we have a very good logical explanation, evolution, as to why we have them.  No god, sentience, or 'intelligence' needed.

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9 minutes ago, Will Due said:

 

Yes, God is good.

And when everyone dedicates their will to God's Due, that's when comfort will be a true achievement, even for those people who became tired of being nasty.

It'll be by design.

 

 

Which god?

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1 minute ago, Will Due said:

 

Failure is simply an educational episode—a cultural experiment in the acquirement of wisdom—in the experience of the God-seeking man who has embarked on the eternal adventure of the exploration of a universe. To such men defeat is but a new tool for the achievement of higher levels of universe reality.

 

 

You reek of unhealthy narcissism.

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Will Due Transcendent

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If there was no way to tell humans and robots apart? What would be the alternative to treating both of them alike?

 

You could start by removing the robot's batteries.

 

 

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Will Due Transcendent

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2 minutes ago, Mystic Crusader said:

You reek of unhealthy narcissism.

 

When are you gonna get tired of being nasty?

 

 

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eight bits Erudite

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You could start by removing the robot's batteries.

That doesn't seem to relate to Crazy Horse's hypothetical.

What if they don't have batteries? Whether they do or not, what does that have to do with consciousness?

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Will Due Transcendent

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8 minutes ago, HerNibs said:

Which god?

 

The one who designed you to be his son.

 

 

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When are you gonna get tired of being nasty?

 

 

Peewee Herman "I know you are, but what am I" stuff doesn't work with me.  Go look at yourself in a mirror.

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3 minutes ago, eight bits said:

What if they don't have batteries? 

 

Then you could put a hat over their skull solar panels?

 

 

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1 minute ago, Will Due said:

 

The one who willed you to be his son.

 

 

That makes no sense.

Give me a name or at least which flavor of religion is the right god.

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9 hours ago, Why not said:

I usually don't like getting into these kind of discussions but, the "real science" of today could be different in a few years. Look a the ridicule Alfred Wegener received when he introduced his continental drift theory. Or the guy and his son (Alvarez I think) who had the astroid theory wiping out the dinosaurs.

Point being there is a LOT of dogma in the sciences.    I'm not saying every crazy idea deserves peer review but, there is also dogma in the peer review aspect of science. 

Please quote some of this Wegener ridicule, while keeping in mind that Wegener was WAY off track.

I've not seen Alvarez ridiculed. Are you sure you're not making that up?

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31 minutes ago, Will Due said:

 

Yes, God is good.

And when everyone dedicates their will to God's Due, that's when comfort will be a true achievement, even for those people who became tired of being nasty.

It'll be by design.

 

 

Will

Your god is yours because you need a god, projecting your interpretation on others only validates your perspective to you whereas for us it is of no consequence. Your continuous berating and self projection hurts your ability to debate effectively or show that you have any concept as to how to create a harmonious unity.

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Will Due Transcendent

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6 minutes ago, HerNibs said:

Give me a name or at least which flavor of religion is the right god.

 

I'll do my best.

He has many names. Here's a few:

 

Our Father in whom consist the universe realms

Our creative Parent, who is in the center of the universe

Our perfect and righteous heavenly Father

Our Father who is in the mystery

Glorious Father and Mother, in one parent combined

Our all-faithful Source and all-powerful Center

Our Father who dwells in the secret places of the universe

 

. . . and so on.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Harte said:

Please quote some of this Wegener ridicule, while keeping in mind that Wegener was WAY off track.

I've not seen Alvarez ridiculed. Are you sure you're not making that up?

Harte

Yes it is funny how when something is properly researched and presented that it is accepted.

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Harte Transcendent

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7 hours ago, I'mConvinced said:

Indeed, this is the way in which people can claim anything is possible without having to explain any of the mechanism.  "Oh science doesn't know all of the energies blah blah" is often parroted back at me by people who haven't taken the time to understand anything at all about particle physics. 

It's worse than that. Those people don't even know what energy is.

It's similar to all the stupid claims about "frequency" from morons that don't even know what "frequency" is.

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2 minutes ago, Will Due said:

 

I'll do my best.

He has many names. Here's a few:

 

Our Father in whom consist the universe realms

Our creative Parent, who is in the center of the universe

Our perfect and righteous heavenly Father

Our Father who is in the mystery

Glorious Father and Mother, in one parent combined

Our all-faithful Source and all-powerful Center

Our Father who dwells in the secret places of the universe

 

. . . and so on.

 

 

So you are saying it is NOT Odin correct?

Not being sarcastic.  Seriously, it is NOT Odin correct?

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It's worse than that. Those people don't even know what energy is.

It's similar to all the stupid claims about "frequency" from morons that don't even know what "frequency" is.

Harte

I'm supposed to figure out what frequency I vibrate at, it will help me learn the truth.

Didn't that Celestine Prophecy crap go out of vogue?

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1 minute ago, HerNibs said:

So you are saying it is NOT Odin correct?

Not being sarcastic.  Seriously, it is NOT Odin correct?

Nibs

Hi Nibs

Will's god can be found in the UB under channeled entries, so for him it includes all gods even if the have different defining qualities that way he can safely claim that he is a brother to all.

jmccr8

 

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MauriOra Illuminated

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4 minutes ago, HerNibs said:

I'm supposed to figure out what frequency I vibrate at, it will help me learn the truth.

Didn't that Celestine Prophecy crap go out of vogue?

Nibs

Howsit Nibs,

Celestine Prophecy, was that Synchronicity ..?

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Harte Transcendent

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7 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

It isnt a mistrust of science per se, at least not for me, but this lie that matter is all there is. 

In other words its Materialism not science that is the problem.

I hope this puts this particular misunderstanding to bed! 

Plenty of scientists have their own personal spiritual beliefs and their own faith.

Those things can't be measured, though, so they aren't something science is designed to address.

So science doesn't try to.

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2 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Nibs

Will's god can be found in the UB under channeled entries, so for him it includes all gods even if the have different defining qualities that way he can safely claim that he is a brother to all.

jmccr8

 

Well that isn't good.  I haven't read of any god/s that aren't jealous, vengeful and/or willing to purge the planet in a fit of pique.

 

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Harte Transcendent

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7 hours ago, Will Due said:

 

Interesting reply. I just learned something.

 

But if many spheres of the same exact mass follow each other, then each of them would be pulled by the one in front equally while being balanced in orbit by the one behind.

Is that possible?

What are they orbiting Will?

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MauriOra Illuminated

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39 minutes ago, HerNibs said:

Please elaborate.  Who are "these people" and uncovering what truth?

Nibs

Howsit again.

I dont know exactly who CH, is meaning ..

My thoughts, The Nasty people or Entity's, in Power, holding Humans in Slavery, through, Legalis Means of Restrictions,  Control, Police Enforcement..etc.. Oh and Money ..

Uncovering what truth.. That its All a Big Fat Lie ...

Mo.xx

 

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Well that isn't good.  I haven't read of any god/s that aren't jealous, vengeful and/or willing to purge the planet in a fit of pique.

 

Nibs

:lol: yes I think it's called a gambler's faith kind of like hedging the bets.

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