Intelligent Design: Evolution 2.0

[Crazy Horse]

20 minutes ago, Illyrius said:

Pseudoscientists?

No - they are not pseudoscientists, they are real scientists testing hypothesis that fall out-side materialistic parameters.

 

[Illyrius]

1 minute ago, Crazy Horse said:

No - they are not pseudoscientists, they are real scientists testing hypothesis that fall out-side materialistic parameters.

 

[Rlyeh]

1 hour ago, Will Due said:

 

Space, yes, is defined in three directions.

In "spatial" dimensions.

Not physical dimensions.

Which are physical.

[Illyrius]

8 minutes ago, Rlyeh said:

Which are physical.

Is time physical?

[Will Due]

15 minutes ago, Rlyeh said:

Which are physical.

 

I understand your point.

But if there isn't anything in space to measure, then you're not measuring anything, except perhaps distance, which is measured by time, not space.

Because space without anything in it, is a non-physical entity. Nothing is there. 

 

No?

 

 

Edited February 23, 2018 by Will Due

[Will Due]

 

One more thing.

Time is also non-physical. Like mind and spirit.

When space is measured by time, one non-physical thing is measured by another non-physical thing.

 

No?

 

 

[Will Due]

36 minutes ago, Illyrius said:

Is time physical?

 

I didn't see this. You beat me to it. 

 

 

[Rlyeh]

55 minutes ago, Will Due said:

 

I understand your point.

But if there isn't anything in space to measure, then you're not measuring anything, except perhaps distance, which is measured by time, not space.

Because space without anything in it, is a non-physical entity. Nothing is there. 

 

No?

Distance is a physical property. The very concept of space is physical.

 

[Rlyeh]

1 hour ago, Illyrius said:

Is time physical?

I don't know.

[Illyrius]

Just now, Rlyeh said:

I don't know.

[Will Due]

11 minutes ago, Rlyeh said:

Distance is a physical property. The very concept of space is physical.

 

 

Yes, as a concept, as an idea.

But in reality, the substance of space is not physical.

Same case with time, mind and spirit.

 

 

[Rlyeh]

1 minute ago, Will Due said:

 

Yes, as a concept, as an idea.

But in reality, the substance of space is not physical.

Same case with time, mind and spirit.

Only you brought up substance. The properties of space are physical. Physical doesn't necessary mean material.

[Will Due]

3 minutes ago, Rlyeh said:

Physical doesn't necessary mean material.

 

I think we're finally getting somewhere. 

 

Yes, physical matter like a human being with a physical brain doesn't necessarily  mean that we're totally material, or physical.

Like the mind is non-physical to the material brain.

Like the spiritual soul is non-physical to the human body.

Like the human body exists within non-material space.

Like space is conditioned and measured by non-substanstive time. 

 

But all of it, is Real.

 

 

[Tatetopa]

2 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

What a stupid, ignorant, attitude. Thank God our ancestors didnt have this pathetic, close-mindedness.

You are kidding, right?

 

[MauriOra]

31 minutes ago, Will Due said:

 

I think we're finally getting somewhere. 

 

Yes, physical matter like a human being with a physical brain doesn't necessarily  mean that we're totally material, or physical.

Like the mind is non-physical to the material brain.

Like the spiritual soul is non-physical to the human body.

Like the human body exists within non-material space.

Like space is conditioned and measured by non-substanstive time. 

 

But all of it, is Real.

Atamarie Mr Will ..

I Feel it too...

And I feel what you have said, resonates with me too ..

Thankyou for your thoughts Brutha Will ..xx

 ...

Mo..xx

[Tatetopa]

7 hours ago, Rlyeh said:

Actually space is physical, it's defined by the 3 spatial dimensions.

If you are a string theorist, you might say 9 spatial dimensions.

[jmccr8]

5 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

Who gave us the black and white version of reality, ie, it must be right, or it must be wrong.

Where as two truths can sit in the same space. For example I can say that each human being is unique, and I can say that each human being is the same. Both are true, and contradictory.

Man did, try reading De Ethica then think how long those concepts were around before Aristotle.

jmccr8 

Edited February 23, 2018 by jmccr8
Fat fingers or the devil made me do it

[GoldenWolf]

3 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

So what? So they dont belong to any established discipline.

And you guy's judge and condemn wolves and their pack mentality.

[XenoFish]

3 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

So what? So they dont belong to any established discipline. This is the trouble with people like you, narrow-minded, ignorant, "know-it-alls", who do you think you are, trying to set the parameters of what can, and cannot be assessed, trying to impose your close mindedness, restricting thought and action. Your attitude is disgusting. 

No affiliation to any major university, but they have many Drs associated with many different universities.

What you have actually just said is, if they don't agree with established ideas, then they arnt worth anything. What a stupid, ignorant, attitude. Thank God our ancestors didnt have this pathetic, close-mindedness.

This attitude. Its why I don't like you. It is a fine example of a pompous self righteous temperament that seems so prevalent in overzealous spiritual individuals. 

[Crazy Horse]

40 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

You are kidding, right?

 

About what exactly?

[Crazy Horse]

56 minutes ago, Mystic Crusader said:

And you guy's judge and condemn wolves and their pack mentality.

No, thats what phyche101 was doing.

They (Sheldrake &Co) are not following the established (pack) ideas and disciplines, so therefore they shouldn't even be considered.

This is like fascism 101, you tow the party line or else...

Edited February 23, 2018 by Crazy Horse

[Crazy Horse]

11 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

This attitude. Its why I don't like you. It is a fine example of a pompous self righteous temperament that seems so prevalent in overzealous spiritual individuals. 

 I could not care less what you think of me.

Pyhche101 is trying to impose his, and the establishment view that only materialistic science is worth considering.

That is, ignorant, pathetic, narrow-minded, stupid, and detrimental to society. Whether you like it or not..

 

[jmccr8]

2 hours ago, Will Due said:

 

I didn't see this. You beat me to it. 

 

Hi Will

Yeah but he forgot the no

jmccr8

[ellapenella]

I meant to post at another thread, oops. 

Edited February 23, 2018 by Ellapennella

[jmccr8]

1 minute ago, Ellapennella said:

The point is this, things have meaning,almost like hidden in plain sight, even in nursery rhymes. The only way to learn and recognize things  is organically. 

Are we still in Hollyweird or having a CERN moment?

jmccr8