Crazy Horse Posted February 23, 2018 #1776 Share Posted February 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Illyrius said: Pseudoscientists? No - they are not pseudoscientists, they are real scientists testing hypothesis that fall out-side materialistic parameters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrius Posted February 23, 2018 #1777 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Crazy Horse said: No - they are not pseudoscientists, they are real scientists testing hypothesis that fall out-side materialistic parameters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted February 23, 2018 #1778 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Will Due said: Space, yes, is defined in three directions. In "spatial" dimensions. Not physical dimensions. Which are physical. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrius Posted February 23, 2018 #1779 Share Posted February 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rlyeh said: Which are physical. Is time physical? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted February 23, 2018 #1780 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Rlyeh said: Which are physical. I understand your point. But if there isn't anything in space to measure, then you're not measuring anything, except perhaps distance, which is measured by time, not space. Because space without anything in it, is a non-physical entity. Nothing is there. No? Edited February 23, 2018 by Will Due 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted February 23, 2018 #1781 Share Posted February 23, 2018 One more thing. Time is also non-physical. Like mind and spirit. When space is measured by time, one non-physical thing is measured by another non-physical thing. No? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted February 23, 2018 #1782 Share Posted February 23, 2018 36 minutes ago, Illyrius said: Is time physical? I didn't see this. You beat me to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted February 23, 2018 #1783 Share Posted February 23, 2018 55 minutes ago, Will Due said: I understand your point. But if there isn't anything in space to measure, then you're not measuring anything, except perhaps distance, which is measured by time, not space. Because space without anything in it, is a non-physical entity. Nothing is there. No? Distance is a physical property. The very concept of space is physical. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted February 23, 2018 #1784 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Illyrius said: Is time physical? I don't know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrius Posted February 23, 2018 #1785 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Just now, Rlyeh said: I don't know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted February 23, 2018 #1786 Share Posted February 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Rlyeh said: Distance is a physical property. The very concept of space is physical. Yes, as a concept, as an idea. But in reality, the substance of space is not physical. Same case with time, mind and spirit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted February 23, 2018 #1787 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Will Due said: Yes, as a concept, as an idea. But in reality, the substance of space is not physical. Same case with time, mind and spirit. Only you brought up substance. The properties of space are physical. Physical doesn't necessary mean material. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted February 23, 2018 #1788 Share Posted February 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rlyeh said: Physical doesn't necessary mean material. I think we're finally getting somewhere. Yes, physical matter like a human being with a physical brain doesn't necessarily mean that we're totally material, or physical. Like the mind is non-physical to the material brain. Like the spiritual soul is non-physical to the human body. Like the human body exists within non-material space. Like space is conditioned and measured by non-substanstive time. But all of it, is Real. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted February 23, 2018 #1789 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Crazy Horse said: What a stupid, ignorant, attitude. Thank God our ancestors didnt have this pathetic, close-mindedness. You are kidding, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 23, 2018 #1790 Share Posted February 23, 2018 31 minutes ago, Will Due said: I think we're finally getting somewhere. Yes, physical matter like a human being with a physical brain doesn't necessarily mean that we're totally material, or physical. Like the mind is non-physical to the material brain. Like the spiritual soul is non-physical to the human body. Like the human body exists within non-material space. Like space is conditioned and measured by non-substanstive time. But all of it, is Real. Atamarie Mr Will .. I Feel it too... And I feel what you have said, resonates with me too .. Thankyou for your thoughts Brutha Will ..xx ... Mo..xx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted February 23, 2018 #1791 Share Posted February 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Rlyeh said: Actually space is physical, it's defined by the 3 spatial dimensions. If you are a string theorist, you might say 9 spatial dimensions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted February 23, 2018 #1792 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Crazy Horse said: Who gave us the black and white version of reality, ie, it must be right, or it must be wrong. Where as two truths can sit in the same space. For example I can say that each human being is unique, and I can say that each human being is the same. Both are true, and contradictory. Man did, try reading De Ethica then think how long those concepts were around before Aristotle. jmccr8 Edited February 23, 2018 by jmccr8 Fat fingers or the devil made me do it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenWolf Posted February 23, 2018 #1793 Share Posted February 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Crazy Horse said: So what? So they dont belong to any established discipline. And you guy's judge and condemn wolves and their pack mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted February 23, 2018 #1794 Share Posted February 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Crazy Horse said: So what? So they dont belong to any established discipline. This is the trouble with people like you, narrow-minded, ignorant, "know-it-alls", who do you think you are, trying to set the parameters of what can, and cannot be assessed, trying to impose your close mindedness, restricting thought and action. Your attitude is disgusting. No affiliation to any major university, but they have many Drs associated with many different universities. What you have actually just said is, if they don't agree with established ideas, then they arnt worth anything. What a stupid, ignorant, attitude. Thank God our ancestors didnt have this pathetic, close-mindedness. This attitude. Its why I don't like you. It is a fine example of a pompous self righteous temperament that seems so prevalent in overzealous spiritual individuals. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted February 23, 2018 #1795 Share Posted February 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: You are kidding, right? About what exactly? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted February 23, 2018 #1796 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Mystic Crusader said: And you guy's judge and condemn wolves and their pack mentality. No, thats what phyche101 was doing. They (Sheldrake &Co) are not following the established (pack) ideas and disciplines, so therefore they shouldn't even be considered. This is like fascism 101, you tow the party line or else... Edited February 23, 2018 by Crazy Horse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted February 23, 2018 #1797 Share Posted February 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, XenoFish said: This attitude. Its why I don't like you. It is a fine example of a pompous self righteous temperament that seems so prevalent in overzealous spiritual individuals. I could not care less what you think of me. Pyhche101 is trying to impose his, and the establishment view that only materialistic science is worth considering. That is, ignorant, pathetic, narrow-minded, stupid, and detrimental to society. Whether you like it or not.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted February 23, 2018 #1798 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Will Due said: I didn't see this. You beat me to it. Hi Will Yeah but he forgot the no jmccr8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 23, 2018 #1799 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) I meant to post at another thread, oops. Edited February 23, 2018 by Ellapennella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted February 23, 2018 #1800 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Ellapennella said: The point is this, things have meaning,almost like hidden in plain sight, even in nursery rhymes. The only way to learn and recognize things is organically. Are we still in Hollyweird or having a CERN moment? jmccr8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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