+Sherapy Posted February 17, 2018 #451 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, Will Due said: God is not a construct. For me, god is a construct. For you,...well this is your call. All the best to you Will, your path is your own. Happy trails. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted February 17, 2018 #452 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, Clockwork_Spirit said: We are made in God's image. If it works best for you to beleive this, I say this is what matters, not what I think. All the best, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted February 17, 2018 Author #453 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sherapy said: If it works best for you to beleive this, I say this is what matters, not what I think. All the best, Sheri, have you had a few sherrys tonight? You seem so calm. Edited February 17, 2018 by Will Due 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted February 17, 2018 #454 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Will Due said: Sheri, have you had a few sherrys tonight? You seem so calm. I don't drink alcohol, Will. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted February 17, 2018 #455 Share Posted February 17, 2018 One thing is for certain; it is folly to try to defend what is written in a book. Words speak for themselves and are either believed or are not. One's own conclusions, on the other hand, are another matter, entirely. One may speak of them if one wants, write them down if one wishes to, or keep one's own council and let oneself and one's actions and one's life speak the truth of them. That which is written on the heart is inviolate and requires no defense. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted February 17, 2018 #456 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Hammerclaw said: One thing is for certain; it is folly to try to defend what is written in a book. Words speak for themselves and are either believed or are not. One's own conclusions, on the other hand, are another matter, entirely. One may speak of them if one wants, write them down if one wishes to, or keep one's own council and let oneself and one's actions and one's life speak the truth of them. That which is written on the heart is inviolate and requires no defense. Exactly, or validation-- either overtly or covertly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted February 17, 2018 #457 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Exactly, or validation-- either overtly or covertly. Yes, that is the wisdom of woman; to know how well the heart speaks truth without words. Edited February 17, 2018 by Hammerclaw 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted February 17, 2018 #458 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, Hammerclaw said: Yes, that is the wisdom woman; to know how well the heart speaks truth without words. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrius Posted February 17, 2018 #459 Share Posted February 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Yes, that is the wisdom of woman; to know how well the heart speaks truth without words. Yes, the Spirit of Truth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted February 17, 2018 #460 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain In the twilight glow I see her Blue eyes crying in the rain When we kissed goodbye and parted I knew we'd never meet again Love is like a dying ember And only memories remain And through the ages I'll remember Blue eyes crying in the rain Some day when we meet up yonder We'll stroll hand in hand again In a land that knows no parting Blue eyes crying in the rain Songwriters: FRED ROSE 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hre2breal Posted February 17, 2018 #461 Share Posted February 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain In the twilight glow I see her Blue eyes crying in the rain When we kissed goodbye and parted I knew we'd never meet again Love is like a dying ember And only memories remain And through the ages I'll remember Blue eyes crying in the rain Some day when we meet up yonder We'll stroll hand in hand again In a land that knows no parting Blue eyes crying in the rain Songwriters: FRED ROSE Beautiful song that one...Nice 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 17, 2018 #462 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Clockwork_Spirit said: Materialism is the philosophical doctrine of the Neo-atheist movement (Dawkins, Denett, Hitchens, Harris ect. as it's leading figures). The term 'materialism' is the description of a particular worldview. The ''mind = brain, we are biological robots living in a meaningless Universe''. Anything but, you should invest in a dictionary physics ˈfɪzɪks/ noun the branch of science concerned with the nature and properties of matter and energy. The subject matter of physics includes mechanics, heat, light and other radiation, sound, electricity, magnetism, and the structure of atoms. And materialism is still just a buzz word, particularly the way you use it 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 17, 2018 #463 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Clockwork_Spirit said: We are made in God's image. Edited February 17, 2018 by psyche101 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 17, 2018 #464 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Will Due said: Umm Did you just call me a monkey? https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanent-exhibitions/human-origins-and-cultural-halls/anne-and-bernard-spitzer-hall-of-human-origins/understanding-our-past/dna-comparing-humans-and-chimps/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyrius Posted February 17, 2018 #465 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, psyche101 said: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only_ Posted February 17, 2018 #466 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, psyche101 said: Anything but, you should invest in a dictionary physics ˈfɪzɪks/ noun the branch of science concerned with the nature and properties of matter and energy. The subject matter of physics includes mechanics, heat, light and other radiation, sound, electricity, magnetism, and the structure of atoms. And materialism is still just a buzz word, particularly the way you use it It's interesting that you would deny that you have a worldview. Physics is a science. Probably the most fundamental of sciences. The study of matter and energy, space and time, and of the relations between them. But it's not necesserely one's whole vision of the world. A physicist may also be spiritual; a christian, a buddhist, a muslim... Edited February 17, 2018 by Clockwork_Spirit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 18, 2018 #467 Share Posted February 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Clockwork_Spirit said: It's interesting that you would deny that you have a worldview. I don't, you just don't understand what you read, you have illustrated that repeatedly. 7 hours ago, Clockwork_Spirit said: Physics is a science. Probably the most fundamental of sciences. The study of matter and energy, space and time, and of the relations between them. But it's not necesserely one's whole vision of the world. A physicist may also be spiritual; a christian, a buddhist, a muslim... And personal pursuits may be anything I like star gazing and playing guitar. Dawkins has described his Ideas of spirituality its different for everyone and that's what you struggle with. You seem to think your personal view should be accepted as fact by all on your say so. Its another illustration that you need faith to feel special. To resolve your personal issue would require professional counselling. Not the Spirit world. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only_ Posted February 18, 2018 #468 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, psyche101 said: And personal pursuits may be anything I like star gazing and playing guitar. Dawkins has described his Ideas of spirituality its different for everyone and that's what you struggle with. You seem to think your personal view should be accepted as fact by all on your say so. Its another illustration that you need faith to feel special. To resolve your personal issue would require professional counselling. Not the Spirit world. I think we are all special. The Universe is also special. It is purpose-guided. As for requiring professional counselling, who doesn't at some point? I'm proud of what I do, I work in healthcare. I'm a care giver. My christian, humanistic values are at the forefront of my work everyday. Edited February 18, 2018 by Clockwork_Spirit 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted February 18, 2018 Author #469 Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 hours ago, psyche101 said: I don't, you just don't understand what you read, you have illustrated that repeatedly. And personal pursuits may be anything I like star gazing and playing guitar. Dawkins has described his Ideas of spirituality its different for everyone and that's what you struggle with. You seem to think your personal view should be accepted as fact by all on your say so. Its another illustration that you need faith to feel special. To resolve your personal issue would require professional counselling. Not the Spirit world. Mr pysche, Are you mean spirited, or just in the habit of using unusual methods to serve your fellow man? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriOra Posted February 18, 2018 #470 Share Posted February 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, Clockwork_Spirit said: I think we are all special. The Universe is also special. It is purpose-guided. As for requiring professional counselling, who doesn't at some point? I'm proud of what I do, I work in healthcare. I'm a care giver. My christian, humanistic values are at the forefront of my work everyday. Atamarie Friend.. Your Humanistic Values are Wonderful .. Thank You .. .. And Indeed, We Are Special, and The Universe is Special and Purpose Guided as You Say .. Keep Up the Good Work ..!!! .. Peace to you and yours.. Mo..xx 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 18, 2018 #471 Share Posted February 18, 2018 16 hours ago, Clockwork_Spirit said: I think we are all special. Except atheists or those who do j8r agree with your world view 16 hours ago, Clockwork_Spirit said: The Universe is also special. The universe just is 16 hours ago, Clockwork_Spirit said: It is purpose-guided. There is no good reason to think so. 16 hours ago, Clockwork_Spirit said: As for requiring professional counselling, who doesn't at some point? Recognising it is the fist step 16 hours ago, Clockwork_Spirit said: I'm proud of what I do, I work in healthcare. I'm a care giver. My christian, humanistic values are at the forefront of my work everyday. I lope up dont force your personal ideas on the vulnerable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 18, 2018 #472 Share Posted February 18, 2018 15 hours ago, Will Due said: Mr pysche, Are you mean spirited, or just in the habit of using unusual methods to serve your fellow man? This coming from someone who compared atheism with cold molestation. If I hit the bottom of the barrel I'll see you there. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2016/07/ken-hams-ark-encounter-is-child-abuse/ I tell it like it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted February 18, 2018 Author #473 Share Posted February 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, psyche101 said: I tell it like it is. Thank you for your service. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted February 18, 2018 Author #474 Share Posted February 18, 2018 36 minutes ago, psyche101 said: dont force your personal ideas on the vulnerable. Btw, it must be that you're being influenced by the Spirit of Truth to have said that, because it does appear that you've become solemnly aware that sometimes, as he said: "I will judge you out of your own mouth." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted February 18, 2018 #475 Share Posted February 18, 2018 16 hours ago, Clockwork_Spirit said: I think we are all special. The Universe is also special. It is purpose-guided. As for requiring professional counselling, who doesn't at some point? I'm proud of what I do, I work in healthcare. I'm a care giver. My christian, humanistic values are at the forefront of my work everyday. Hi Clockwork, The way that you have worded this sounds exclusionary of anyone that is not Christian which I find to be derogatory to those others that do good works and express empathy for their fellow man. Is that your honest position? I now many people of different faiths as well as those that do not belong to a religion that are humble and do good works without seeking reward or recognition because it is just the kind of people that they are. They don't see themselves as special above others either. Personally I see the circumstances that occurred for is to evolve to be unique but do not see it as an intelligent or deliberate act. We give things meaning and will continue to do so, it is how we learn and as we learn the significance of those meanings should also develop in our understanding of what we are. Once one has riden a bycicle at some point the training wheels should come off. jmccr8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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