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Nobody – not Porton Down, not the OPCW – has been able to state that the nerve agent found was of Russian manufacture, a fact which the MSM continues to disgracefully fudge with “developed in Russia” phrasing. As is now well known and was reported by Iran in scientific literature, Iran synthesised five novichoks recently. More importantly, the German spying agency BND obtained novichok in the 1990s and it was studied and synthesised in several NATO countries, almost certainly including the UK and USA.

In 1998, chemical formulae for novichok were introduced into the United States NIST National Institute of Standards and Technologies Mass Spectrometry Library database by U.S. Army Edgewood Chemical and Biological Defense Command, but the entry was later deleted. In 2009 Hillary Clinton instructed US diplomats to feign ignorance of novichoks, as revealed by the last paragraph of this Wikileaks released diplomatic cable.

Most telling was the Sky News interview with the head of Porton Down. Interviewer Paul Kelso repeatedly pressed Aitkenhead directly on whether the novichok could have come from Porton Down. Aitkenhead replies “There is no way, anything like that could…leave these four walls. We deal with a number of toxic substances in the work that we do, we’ve got the highest levels of security and controls”. Asked again twice, he each times says the security is so tight “the substance” could not have come from Porton Down. What Aitkenhead does NOT say is “of course it could not have come from here, we have never made it”. Indeed Aitkenhead’s repeated assertion that the security would never have let it out, is tantamount to an admission Porton Down does produce novichok.

If somebody asked you whether the lion that savaged somebody came from your garden, would you reply “Don’t be stupid, I don’t have a lion in my garden” or would you say, repeatedly, “Of course not, I have a very strong lion cage?”. Here you can see Mr Aitkenhead explain repeatedly he has a big lion cage, from 2’25” in.

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So the question of where the nerve agent was made remains unresolved. The MSM has continually attempted to lie about this and affirm that all novichok is Russian made. The worst of corporate and state journalism in the UK was exposed when they took the OPCW’s report that it confirmed the findings of Porton Down and presented that as confirming the Johnson/May assertion that it was Russia, whereas the findings of Porton Down were actually – as the Aitkenhead interview stated categorically – that they could not say where it was made.

The other relatively new development is the knowledge that Skripal had not retired but was active for MI6 on gigs briefing overseas intelligence agencies about Russia. This did not increase his threat to Russia, as he told everything he knows a decade ago. But it could provide an element of annoyance that would indeed increase Russian official desire to punish him further.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/05/yulia-skripal-and-the-salisbury-wut/

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Revealed: rebranded D-Notice committee issued two notices over Skripal affair

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Spinwatch can reveal that the Skripal affair has resulted in the issuing of not one but two 'D-Notices' to the British media, which are marked private and confidential. We can also disclose the contents of both notices, which have been obtained from a reliable source.

That two notices were issued has been confirmed by the ‘D-Notice' Committee. The Committee, which is jointly staffed by government officials and mainstream media representatives has recently changed its name to the ‘Defence and Security Media Advisory (DSMA) Committee’. The use of the word ‘advisory’ is no doubt a bid to discourage the public from thinking that this is a censorship committee.  However, the DSMA-Notices (as they are now officially called) are one of the miracles of British state censorship. They are a mechanism whereby the British state simply ‘advises’ the mainstream media what not to publish, in ‘notices’ with no legal force. The media then voluntarily comply. 

Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were poisoned in Salisbury and discovered collapsed on a park bench in the late afternoon of Sunday 4 March. Less than three days later on 7 March, the first and - until now undisclosed - notice was issued. 

The notice stated that the ‘issue surrounding the identify [sic] of a former MI6 informer Sergei Skripal is already widely available in the public domain. However, the identifies [sic] of intelligence agency personnel associated with Sergei Skripal are not yet widely available in the public domain’.

The notice goes on to refer to standing notice 5 on the intelligence services:

The provisions of DSMA Notice 05 therefore apply to these identities. DSMA Notice 05 inter alia advises editors against the:

'inadvertent disclosure of Sensitive Personnel Information (SPI) that reveals the identity, location or contact details of personnel (and their family members) who have security, intelligence and/or counter-terrorist backgrounds, including members of the UK Security and Intelligence Agencies, MOD and Specials Forces.'  

On the evening of 6 March a Russian opposition news outlet Meduza, styling itself 'Russia's free press in exile', published a long piece on Skripal in English. Citing a variety of online sources including in Russian, some from over a decade old, identifying Pablo Miller as the MI6 agent inside the Estonian embassy who had recruited Sergei Skripal. By the next afternoon the notice was issued to the mainstream media. Perhaps the misspellings in the DSMA notice -'identify' and 'identifies' instead, presumably, of 'identity' and 'identities' - was due to haste in getting it out?

http://www.spinwatch.org/index.php/issues/propaganda/item/5998-two-d-notices-for-skripal-affair

 

 

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@Phaeton80 How many people are involved in your conspiracy now? hundreds if not thousands. its beyond silly now. any credibility lost.

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36 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

@Phaeton80 How many people are involved in your conspiracy now? hundreds if not thousands. its beyond silly now. any credibility lost.


Not at all, certainly not more than would populate a Russian conspiracy, the variant you would propose.

This seems to be your new 'champion line', doesnt it.. after the 'secret undisclosed evidence' argument lost its viability.. "It cant be anything other than the official narrative, because hundreds if not thousands need be involved for such to work."

How many people were involved in, say, Blair's blatant and organised Iraq dossier deceit, you'd think? I certainly do understand it very convenient, from your point of view, to claim 'all credibility lost' based on that rather shallow new found champion line. If only you would have concluded such after your government was caught lying to you and your fellow countrymen time and time again. Funny how that works, isnt it. Now, back to listening to the BBC, reading the trusty Times, Guardian, or any one of the other Free Press Institutes of Truth, battling the existential scourge that is 'fake news'.

Yay! :D

 

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2 hours ago, Phaeton80 said:


Not at all, certainly not more than would populate a Russian conspiracy, the variant you would propose.

This seems to be your new 'champion line', doesnt it.. after the 'secret undisclosed evidence' argument lost its viability.. "It cant be anything other than the official narrative, because hundreds if not thousands need be involved for such to work."

How many people were involved in, say, Blair's blatant and organised Iraq dossier deceit, you'd think? I certainly do understand it very convenient, from your point of view, to claim 'all credibility lost' based on that rather shallow new found champion line. If only you would have concluded such after your government was caught lying to you and your fellow countrymen time and time again. Funny how that works, isnt it. Now, back to listening to the BBC, reading the trusty Times, Guardian, or any one of the other Free Press Institutes of Truth, battling the existential scourge that is 'fake news'.

Yay! :D

 

your on the road to no-where with this one. it gets absurd the more 'evidence' you provide.

Conspiracy theorists such as yourself always refer to Blair and Iraq like its validation, yet lets remind ourselves what actually happened with Blair and the Iraqi documents. it was the mainstream media who broke the story, such as the BBC who the very next day after the documents were released to the press was calling to question the governments own evidence in the document, in fact the BBC was at loggerheads with the Govt over the release of much earlier documents and exposed the contents as the work of some  graduate student.

So you've somewhat forgotten what actually happened. the mainstream media were all over it the very next day exposing it. - yet the same media today are in cahoots, and are part of the cover up in the Skripal's case so you have to search conspiracy websites to find 'evidence' that fits with the 'conspiracy' 

see the mistake your making no?

 

 

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49 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

your on the road to no-where with this one. it gets absurd the more 'evidence' you provide.

Conspiracy theorists such as yourself always refer to Blair and Iraq like its validation, yet lets remind ourselves what actually happened with Blair and the Iraqi documents. it was the mainstream media who broke the story, such as the BBC who the very next day after the documents were released to the press was calling to question the governments own evidence in the document, in fact the BBC was at loggerheads with the Govt over the release of much earlier documents and exposed the contents as the work of some  graduate student.

So you've somewhat forgotten what actually happened. the mainstream media were all over it the very next day exposing it. - yet the same media today are in cahoots, and are part of the cover up in the Skripal's case so you have to search conspiracy websites to find 'evidence' that fits with the 'conspiracy' 

see the mistake your making no?

 

 


If the media had been as critical as it so chivalrously feigned after it all was said and done from the getgo, we wouldnt have had the war would we.

Lets take a wee peak at the timeline shall we?

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2003

16 January

UN weapons inspectors find 12 warheads designed to carry chemical weapons. The inspectors believe the warheads were not accounted for in Iraq’s 12,000 page submission. Washington described the warheads as a “smouldering, not smoking gun”

27 January

UN inspectors present evidence to the Security Council about their search for WMD and Iraqi co-operation with resolution 1441. The report is seized on by the US and UK as proof that Iraq is not disarming, while other states argue that the inspectors need to be given more time

29 January

In his State of the Union address, President Bush announces that he is ready to attack Iraq, even without a UN mandate

Documents later released to the Chilcot Inquiry show that the attorney general, Lord Goldsmith, cautioned Mr Blair: "My view remains that a further [UN] decision is required". Mr Blair wrote in the margin of the note: "I just don't understand this."

31 January

Mr Blair tells Mr Bush at a meeting in Washington that he is "solidly with the President", according to Downing Street documents that were later leaked.

14 February

Dr Blix reports to the UN again. He says Iraq must do more to prove it has no WMD

15 February

Anti-war demonstrations held in London and other cities around the world

24 February

The US, Great Britain and Spain submit a proposed resolution to UN Security Council stating Iraq has failed to take the final opportunity afforded to it in Resolution 1441

26 February

Mr Blair suffers parliamentary rebellion over handling of the crisis when 121 Labour MPs vote against him

4 March

Gordon Brown, the chancellor, makes clear his support for war by saying he is prepared to 'spend what it takes’ to disarm Iraq

5 March

Foreign ministers of France, Russia and Germany release joint declaration stating that they will 'not allow’ a resolution authorising military action to pass the UN security council

7 March

Dr Blix reports that Iraq has accelerated its co-operation but says inspectors need more time to verify Iraq’s compliance

10 March

France and Russia announce that they are ready to veto a new UN resolution which gives Iraq seven days to disarm. French President Jacques Chirac says his country would vote against any resolution that contained an ultimatum leading to war until the weapons inspectors in Iraq said they could do no more

16 March

President Bush, Mr Blair and the Spanish Premier Jose Maria Aznar meet in the Azores. They set a deadline of the end of Monday 17 March for the Security Council to back the US/UK resolution demanding immediate Iraqi disarmament. Mr Bush called it a “moment of truth for the world”

17 March

UK’s ambassador to the UN says the diplomatic process on Iraq has ended and announces the withdrawal of a draft resolution co-sponsored by the US and Spain; arms inspectors evacuate; Robin Cook, leader of the House of Commons, resigns from cabinet; Lord Goldsmith, the Attorney General, confirms in a written parliamentary statement that war on Iraq would be legal on the grounds of existing UN resolutions; President Bush gives Saddam and his sons 48 hours to leave Iraq or face war

20 March

Invasion of Iraq begins

9 April

Baghdad falls to US forces

2 May

President Bush declares victory in Iraq in speech on aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln.

6 May

Paul Bremer, a diplomat and former head of counter terrorism at the US State Department, is appointed as top civilian administrator in Iraq. He is also given authority over Jay Garner, the retired general who had been in charge of reconstruction efforts

22 May

UN Security Council backs US-led administration in Iraq and lifts economic sanctions

23 May

Bremer abolishes ministries and institutions that formed the backbone of Saddam’s power structure

13 July

Iraq’s interim governing council, composed of 25 Iraqis appointed by US and British officials, meets for the first time.

18 July

Dr David Kelly is found dead after being exposed as the source of claims that the September 2002 dossier had been “sexed up”

13 December

Saddam captured

2004

28 January

Hutton Report into Dr Kelly’s death published, clearing ministers of wrongdoing and claiming reports about the September 2002 dossier were “unfounded”

14 July

Butler Report on Iraq intelligence published, saying MI6 did not check its sources well enough and relied on third hand reports. It also said the 2002 dossier should not have included the 45 minute claim without explaining what it meant

28 September

Speaking at the Labour conference, Mr Blair admits intelligence was wrong but claims the war was justified by the removal of Saddam Hussein, saying: "I can apologise for the information being wrong but I can never apologise, sincerely at least, for removing Saddam."

2005

1 May

Secret Downing Street documents appear to show Mr Blair had examined ways of justifying an invasion of Iraq with his senior staff back in July 2002, but he insisted he would have held back if Saddam had met the UN's requirements.

2007

17 November

Mr Blair insists he was right to go to war, "whatever it began as", claiming that his only regret is "not having laid out for people in a clearer way what I saw as the profound nature of this struggle".

2009

12 December

Mr Blair would still have thought it right to remove Saddam even without WMDs, he says: "I mean obviously you would have had to use and deploy different arguments about the nature of the threat."

2010

29 January

The Iraq war made the world safer, Mr Blair tells the Chilcot Inquiry, claiming that he has "no regrets" about the war that removed Saddam, who he described as a "monster".

2011

18 January

Sir Gus O'Donnell rejects repeated requests from the Chilcot Inquiry to publish notes sent by Mr Blair to Mr Bush in the build up to the war, which the inquiry describes as essential evidence in setting out the agreements that led to war.

 

Are you telling me the MSM wasnt supporting all these propaganda efforts - the case made by Bush, Powell - leading up to and during the first fases of the war? Also, how many people needed to be involved to pull this 'conspiracy' off you'd think..? 

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1 hour ago, Phaeton80 said:


If the media had been as critical as it so chivalrously feigned after it all was said and done from the getgo, we wouldnt have had the war would we.

Lets take a wee peak at the timeline shall we?

 

Are you telling me the MSM wasnt supporting all these propaganda efforts - the case made by Bush, Powell - leading up to and during the first fases of the war? Also, how many people needed to be involved to pull this 'conspiracy' off you'd think..? 

like i said the previous the media exposed the govts documents on Blair / Iraq. - the same media haven't exposed anything in the Skripal case, why would they lift the lid on Blair/Iraq but not on the Skripals? are they today part of the conspiracy as well.

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With the images of two supposed Russian agents alleged to have carried out the Skripal attack, be interesting to know what others now think about the Russian state’s involvement in this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-45431583/on-the-novichok-suspects-trail

For me, I was skeptical, but I think this most certainly looking more solid.  

I would love to have been a fly on the wall at the two agents debrief, their assassination attempt almost certainly didn’t go off as planned.

 

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2 minutes ago, Grey Area said:

With the images of two supposed Russian agents alleged to have carried out the Skripal attack, be interesting to know what others now think about the Russian state’s involvement in this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-45431583/on-the-novichok-suspects-trail

For me, I was skeptical, but I think this most certainly looking more solid.  

I would love to have been a fly on the wall at the two agents debrief, their assassination attempt almost certainly didn’t go off as planned.

 

how are the conspiracy theorist going to explain this one?

 

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44 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

how are the conspiracy theorist going to explain this one?

 

Well, it’s certainly a risky move if they have publicly framed 2 innocent men.

But it still leaves the possibility of a rogue operation, and that is now Putins only defence.

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36 minutes ago, Grey Area said:

Well, it’s certainly a risky move if they have publicly framed 2 innocent men.

But it still leaves the possibility of a rogue operation, and that is now Putins only defence.

if this was a rogue element then surely they'd have be arrested on their return to Moscow and would now be facing trial. 

Nothing will come of this, those men will never be brought to justice.

The Russian state messed up big time.

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19 hours ago, Grey Area said:

With the images of two supposed Russian agents alleged to have carried out the Skripal attack, be interesting to know what others now think about the Russian state’s involvement in this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-45431583/on-the-novichok-suspects-trail

For me, I was skeptical, but I think this most certainly looking more solid.  

I would love to have been a fly on the wall at the two agents debrief, their assassination attempt almost certainly didn’t go off as planned, of course Putin will 

 

It looks 'solid' they have nearly every move tracked from landing at the airport, arriving in Salisbury, train back tp London and flight back to Moscow, of course Putin will denounce it all as a pack of lies.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45429894

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6 hours ago, hetrodoxly said:

It looks 'solid' they have nearly every move tracked from landing at the airport, arriving in Salisbury, train back tp London and flight back to Moscow, of course Putin will denounce it all as a pack of lies.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45429894

Excellent work by the British authorities. 

I wonder where all the conspiracy theorist are? The sound of silence. 

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2 hours ago, stevewinn said:

Excellent work by the British authorities.

Pretty sloppy work, actually.  British authorities released two photos of these guys supposedly taken while getting off a plane.  Unfortunately, they failed to notice the time-stamp for both photos was identical, making it appear the photos were faked.  Silly Brits!

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Russia's Alleged Skripal 'Assassins' Caught Breaking The Laws Of Physics

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-05/russias-alleged-skripal-assassins-caught-breaking-laws-physics

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57 minutes ago, hacktorp said:

Pretty sloppy work, actually.  British authorities released two photos of these guys supposedly taken while getting off a plane.  Unfortunately, they failed to notice the time-stamp for both photos was identical, making it appear the photos were faked.  Silly Brits!

theimpossiblephoto.jpg

Russia's Alleged Skripal 'Assassins' Caught Breaking The Laws Of Physics

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-05/russias-alleged-skripal-assassins-caught-breaking-laws-physics

Wow, your on to something there. The plot thickens. I think I'll have to leave it there............. But as a world famous detective would say, 'just one more thing' - why are the camera angles different and the colour saturation different. The fact is they walked Down seperate gates, here look. Example. In the news report the police said they walked side by side and split down seperate gates. Is it not possible when they found one guy and having established the time stamp from one camera simply input that exact same time to see the second guy on the second camera. Where a second or two time difference wouldn't alter the men's position. I'll leave you this to ponder. Second picture by the letter e in pause you can just see the edge of a red sign. This is not apparent in the first image. Here is the actual gate

 

 

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5 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

Wow, your on to something there. The plot thickens. I think I'll have to leave it there............. But as a world famous detective would say, 'just one more thing' - why are the camera angles different and the colour saturation different. The fact is they walked Down seperate gates, here look. Example. In the news report the police said they walked side by side and split down seperate gates. Is it not possible when they found one guy and having established the time stamp from one camera simply input that exact same time to see the second guy on the second camera. Where a second or two time difference wouldn't alter the men's position. I'll leave you to ponder. 

 

Yeap. Even more, there are red markings on the right lower side:

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(from MET twitter).

So, batsh!+ crazies zerohedge fell into horse manure face first...

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Yeap. Even more, there are red markings on the right lower side:

DmaNLq-WwAEzI9-.jpg:large

(from MET twitter).

So, batsh!+ crazies zerohedge fell into horse manure face first...

I've added that to my post. As I hit the back button by mistake before posting. See last sentence. 

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apologies to the Foreign Office, MI5, MI6, Theresa May, Boris Johnson et al...

but

I still don't buy the Official Narrative about all this re the Skripals and what happened...
although we don't actually know what happened apart from them simultaneously conking
out on a bench in Salisbury.. 

when you double down on BS you just double the amount of BS... 

Theresa May was (is) on the ropes politically so I supposed a bit of Russia / Putin bashing
comes in handy at this point...... ?

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Well, they found these guys and interviewed them.  Seems they have nothing to hide and claim British authorities are attempting to frame them for the horribly bungled nerve-agent false flag attack.

If the Brits spent as much time properly planning and executing these false flag attacks as they do concocting their ridiculous cover-up stories, they might actually pull one off.  Alas...

 

 

SIMONYAN: Right. Here’s the photo that’s got the whole world puzzled. Gatwick. You’re going through the gate at the same time, even at the same second. How do you explain that?

BOSHIROV: I think it’s for them to explain.

PETROV: How can we explain it?

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CCTV images of Petrov and Boshirov at Gatwick airport on 2 March 2018.

BOSHIROV: We always go through the gate together. Through the same gate, with the same customs officer. One after another. We walked through that corridor together. We’re always together. As to how it happened – us walking there at the same second and then separately – I think it’s a question that should be put to them

https://www.rt.com/news/438356-rt-petrov-boshirov-full-interview/

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as a matter of interest have the UK authorities responded to the accusation that they doctored these photos? Did the two men use the same gate channel or two separate gate channels?  

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BOSHIROV: We always go through the gate together. Through the same gate, with the same customs officer. One after another. We walked through that corridor together. We’re always together. 

https://www.rt.com/news/438356-rt-petrov-boshirov-full-interview/

 

They obviously do a lot of flying if they are 'always going together' through customs control at airports. 

How do these ordinary guys find the time and money for an international jet set life style ? 

Perhaps they could tell us which other airports they have been to lately and we can have a look at that video footage of them always walking around together.  :ph34r:

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1 hour ago, hacktorp said:

If the Brits spent as much time properly planning and executing these false flag attacks as they do concocting their ridiculous cover-up stories, they might actually pull one off.  Alas...

Talking of cover up stories, are you suggesting that two men travel all the way to Salisbury to see a church spire and a clock, leave because it is too cold and snowy and then travel all that way a second time, the day after?

They then return to Russia to deep snow and -10 temperatures, these guys must really get depressed in the Motherland if they suffered in the relatively mild U.K. winter.

Pull the other one!

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1 hour ago, hacktorp said:

Well, they found these guys and interviewed them.  Seems they have nothing to hide and claim British authorities are attempting to frame them for the horribly bungled nerve-agent false flag attack.

If the Brits spent as much time properly planning and executing these false flag attacks as they do concocting their ridiculous cover-up stories, they might actually pull one off.  Alas...

Or we might remove the tinfoil for 30 seconds and consider that Russian spies, when asked if they are Russian spies, might bit be 100% honest about it. 

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SIMONYAN: Right. Here’s the photo that’s got the whole world puzzled. Gatwick. You’re going through the gate at the same time, even at the same second. How do you explain that?

BOSHIROV: I think it’s for them to explain.

PETROV: How can we explain it?

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CCTV images of Petrov and Boshirov at Gatwick airport on 2 March 2018.

BOSHIROV: We always go through the gate together. Through the same gate, with the same customs officer. One after another. We walked through that corridor together. We’re always together. As to how it happened – us walking there at the same second and then separately – I think it’s a question that should be put to them

https://www.rt.com/news/438356-rt-petrov-boshirov-full-interview/

Again, if we can engage thought for a minimal time, by their own admission they WERE in Salisbury at the right time. In which case, there IS CCTV footage of the going through gates at the airport. So why would British 'authorities' fake the photos, badly, when they could just use the real ones? 

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9 hours ago, Setton said:

Or we might remove the tinfoil for 30 seconds and consider that Russian spies, when asked if they are Russian spies, might bit be 100% honest about it. 


but you believe that the British Intelligence Service is going to be honest about it...?
now they have settled on ''''the story'''' and provided a couple of photos as '''evidence'''
 

9 hours ago, Setton said:

Again, if we can engage thought for a minimal time, by their own admission they WERE in Salisbury at the right time. In which case, there IS CCTV footage of the going through gates at the airport. So why would British 'authorities' fake the photos, badly, when they could just use the real ones? 

 

on the face of it this is a good point - but with a little more consideration....
conversely why would the two Russian men say they went through together if they went through separately..
as they are not denying they were there...

I think what may have happened is that the CCTV stills that were used had the time stamp added and it
was only after people started saying jokey stuff about it that they realsed they had messed it up by putting
the exact same second.... so to save face they said it was two different gates... 

 

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11 hours ago, hacktorp said:

thanks for posting the full interview...

wow... no wonder Theresa May is '''lashing out''' .... her international standing and very existence
as a top politician now rests on her being able to keep the Petrov / Boshirov story afloat...

she was obviously handed the story by MI5 and or MI6  and had no choice but to accept it on good faith
and now has to doggedly stick with it...

Imagine if those two men are, as they claim, entirely innocent and have just been framed to shore up the
Putin / Russia did it narrative... no wonder they are worried and literally scared for their lives...

The Skripals have disappeared, probably never to be seen again.... so we don't know if they are now alive
or dead..and the British woman is dead... Petrov and Boshirov don't want to become the next
casualties in the whole sorry affair.. 


 

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