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Critically ill man is former Russian spy

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bmk1245
38 minutes ago, bee said:

 

bit about Eliot Higgins author / organiser / front man of Bellingcat

:geek:

edit to add quote...

 

 

 

Let me guess, if Eliot will say "Hitler was very very very bad man", you'll jump on "NO! Higgins lying! Hitler was a good man". Am I right?

 

Anyway, piece of a joke Maria Zakharova (spokesperson for Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs) wrote in her FB: why Bellingcat for 5 months haven't published photos, screenshots, and videos of Petrov and Bashirov doing something that is raising questions. :w00t:

That stupid woman is unaware that MET Police named names only in 5th of September.:D

Even more, few days ago she jumped right into conspiracy about the same timestamps on screenshots from Gatwick airport :D

Heck, looks like russian goverment hiring people from mental institutions...

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stevewinn
10 hours ago, Habitat said:

Really ? Under what banner is the "critical thinking" taught ?

It's not taught under a banner, it's taught right across the curriculum. 

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Setton
8 hours ago, stevewinn said:

It's not taught under a banner, it's taught right across the curriculum. 

You can actually take an A level in it as well. It's the clever version of general studies though :P

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bee
23 hours ago, bmk1245 said:

Let me guess, if Eliot will say "Hitler was very very very bad man", you'll jump on "NO! Higgins lying! Hitler was a good man". Am I right?

 

Anyway, piece of a joke Maria Zakharova (spokesperson for Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs) wrote in her FB: why Bellingcat for 5 months haven't published photos, screenshots, and videos of Petrov and Bashirov doing something that is raising questions. :w00t:

That stupid woman is unaware that MET Police named names only in 5th of September.:D

Even more, few days ago she jumped right into conspiracy about the same timestamps on screenshots from Gatwick airport :D

Heck, looks like russian goverment hiring people from mental institutions...

 

well I looked at the translation of Zakharova's FB post and she says..

"The FMS base was only hacked today? About Petrova and Boshirova London announced a long time. Even before they began to suspect. And all this time there were no "databases"?"

 

so I looked to see if there were any mention of the 2 Russians from a while back - there's probably other
links but this one...

 

on the google search dated 28th March..

A Fresh Look at the Skripal Timeline – binReminded – Medium

https://medium.com/@binreminded/a-fresh-look-at-the-skripal-timeline-9739e89add45

28 Mar 2018 - It is generally agreed by all news media that on March 4th 2018 Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia left his Salisbury home in Christie Miller ...

 

mentions them, but not by name and there is even a pic of them that is now never used.. probably because
at that time the story of novichok on the door handle wasn't the official narrative and the story was more about being poisoned in town.... and by fentanyl ..

quote and pic from the article..
 

The Russian GRU agents are at Dauwalders 9 minutes later at 13.49 pm a few minutes away from the Mill Pub — or 51 minutes earlier [the CCTV date 03–04–2018 — is it the 4th March or the 3rd April — a month later. Or if the clock is also 1 hour wrong at 12.49. This gives them 6 minutes to get to the train station — if they rushed. They look very casual for people in a rush].

1*qCQ2qe0JfmFTDEVdi8i6wA.png

 

so Petrov and Boshirov were already known (either as genuine suspects or possible victims of a frame up)
back in March and this must be what Zakharova was talking about...

 

edit to add..... bit of confusion with the time stamps on the cctv image above just like with the
airport one... :blink:
 

 

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stevewinn

It's clear there is enough police evidence to name and prosecute the two men. Until their arrest and court case everything is speculation and media speculation. Under British law both men are innocent until found guilty. Russia won't extradite the two men, due to their constitution and the two men though innocent won't freely travel to the UK to face the charges. 

The British authorities are fantastic either way,

1) they tracked down the killers from the Russian federation secret service. Gathered enough evidence for prosecution. 

Or

2) they've pieced everything together in a false flag operation, they've not only fooled the local police force, they fooled the international community and UN institutions, and to put the cherry on the cake they've found two innocent Russian tourists, who just happen to be in the wrong place at the right time. 

The British Govt can do all this yet can't make the trains run time. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, stevewinn said:

It's clear there is enough police evidence to name and prosecute the two men. Until their arrest and court case everything is speculation and media speculation. Under British law both men are innocent until found guilty. Russia won't extradite the two men, due to their constitution and the two men though innocent won't freely travel to the UK to face the charges. 

The British authorities are fantastic either way,

1) they tracked down the killers from the Russian federation secret service. Gathered enough evidence for prosecution. 

Or

2) they've pieced everything together in a false flag operation, they've not only fooled the local police force, they fooled the international community and UN institutions, and to put the cherry on the cake they've found two innocent Russian tourists, who just happen to be in the wrong place at the right time. 

The British Govt can do all this yet can't make the trains run time. 

 

 

Don't forget the possibility of Alien involvement, Stevewinn. Or the Bavarian Illuminati ? Or the Bilderbergers ? Or the East Leak Allotment Association ! 

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bmk1245
4 hours ago, bee said:

 

well I looked at the translation of Zakharova's FB post and she says..

"The FMS base was only hacked today? About Petrova and Boshirova London announced a long time. Even before they began to suspect. And all this time there were no "databases"?"

 

so I looked to see if there were any mention of the 2 Russians from a while back - there's probably other
links but this one...

 

on the google search dated 28th March..

A Fresh Look at the Skripal Timeline – binReminded – Medium

https://medium.com/@binreminded/a-fresh-look-at-the-skripal-timeline-9739e89add45

28 Mar 2018 - It is generally agreed by all news media that on March 4th 2018 Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia left his Salisbury home in Christie Miller ...

 

mentions them, but not by name and there is even a pic of them that is now never used.. probably because
at that time the story of novichok on the door handle wasn't the official narrative and the story was more about being poisoned in town.... and by fentanyl ..

quote and pic from the article..
 

The Russian GRU agents are at Dauwalders 9 minutes later at 13.49 pm a few minutes away from the Mill Pub — or 51 minutes earlier [the CCTV date 03–04–2018 — is it the 4th March or the 3rd April — a month later. Or if the clock is also 1 hour wrong at 12.49. This gives them 6 minutes to get to the train station — if they rushed. They look very casual for people in a rush].

1*qCQ2qe0JfmFTDEVdi8i6wA.png

 

so Petrov and Boshirov were already known (either as genuine suspects or possible victims of a frame up)
back in March and this must be what Zakharova was talking about...

 

edit to add..... bit of confusion with the time stamps on the cctv image above just like with the
airport one... :blink:
 

 

OK, when names Boshirov and Petrov were announced publicly?

Next thing, 4.8km/h (distance 480 m in 6 min) is far from the rush (6-7km/h).

As for the same timestamps, see stewewinn's post (and links therein) again.

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