Who is Luis Elizondo?

[stereologist]

I was reading about the latest inconsequential video from the To The Stars Academy and ran into some interesting side issue:

https://badufos.blogspot.com/2018/03/to-stars-releases-another-video-and.html

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So, to summarize, there are no documents to support what Elizondo says about AATIP, and their absence is very curious. Do we have anything to document, other than Elizondo's word, that this AATIP program even existed? Might AATIP have existed only as a "Rogue program," never actually sanctioned? Good luck to you in your research, Mr. Greenewald, let us hope you can get to the bottom of all this.

That is the summary at the end of the page. It seems that efforts to find out if Elizondo and his stories of AATIP are correct seem to  be floundering. Crazy as it may seem, efforts to use the FOIA keep getting "No Records Response."  It is as if the AATIP is a nonexistent organization made up by Elizondo.

Here is what the Black Vault has to say:

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/to-the-stars-academy-of-arts-science-tom-delonge-and-the-secret-dod-ufo-research-program/

It seems that even the believers in UFOs are somewhat suspicious about these shenanigans.

[stereologist]

Found another place the Black Vault is troubled by the lack of information when FOIAs are submitted.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/83vjh1/strange_denial_of_a_foia_request_regarding_luis/

 

Here we go with a comment from Wired

https://www.wired.com/story/what-is-up-with-those-pentagon-ufo-videos/

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“If they were officially declassified, they would have to have been officially classified,” says Nate Jones, director of the Freedom of Information Act Project at the National Security Archive. And a classified video would likely have a marking at least at the beginning and end, even after it was okayed for public consumption. Someone—at the Times, at To The Stars—could have cut those introductory and closing seconds from the video, but why would they do that, when both groups were emphasizing the direct-from-DOD legitimacy of the videos? “It looks very strongly like these weren’t released through any proper DOD declassification channels that I’ve ever seen,” says Jones. “I’ve seen a lot of DOD declassification in response to FOIA, in response to mandatory declassification review, in response to proactive disclosure. And it doesn’t look like this.”

 

[Piney]

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“Luis Elizondo is a career intelligence officer whose experience includes working with the U.S. Army, the Department of Defense, the National Counterintelligence Executive, and the Director of National Intelligence. As a former Special Agent In-Charge, Luis conducted and supervised highly sensitive espionage and terrorism investigations around the world. As an intelligence Case Officer, he ran clandestine source operations throughout Latin America and the Middle East. Most recently, Luis managed the security for certain sensitive portfolios for the US Government as the Director for the National Programs Special Management Staff. For nearly the last decade, Luis also ran a sensitive aerospace threat identification program focusing on unidentified aerial technologies. Luis’ academic background includes Microbiology, Immunology and Parasitology, with research experience in tropical diseases. Luis is also an inventor who holds several patents.”

This biography seems way overblown and anybody who claims to be a former spook. Isn't. Nobody wants to be hunted down by the people they helped burn.

 

edit: source http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/to-the-stars-academy-of-arts-science-tom-delonge-and-the-secret-dod-ufo-research-program/#

Edited March 16, 2018 by Piney

[stereologist]

Here is a weird one from the Wired article.

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Elizondo, for his part, clarified to WIRED that he didn’t believe the videos themselves were ever classified: They were just stored on a classified system.

There is a strict no-mix data standard for the government. You don't mix unclassified with classified. You don't connect a classified and unclassified system. There are strict standards to prevent the inadvertent release of information. This sounds wrong to me - very wrong. Placing the videos on a classified system means they were classified.  Later the videos could have been declassified and they would have been moved to an unclassified server.

When I read that I immediately thought Elizondo does not know the rules for information handling.

[stereologist]

Here is an interesting blog which questions the "chain of custody" claim made in the original story in the New York Times.

http://ufos-documenting-the-evidence.blogspot.com/2018/03/luis-elizondo-defence-office-of.html

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Elizondo, and others, such as reporter Leslie Kean, have claimed that defence authorities formally permitted the open presentation of the material, and that a documented “chain of custody” was in existence. Again, it should be noted that the “Nimitz”, or “Tic Tac”, footage was already known, as it had been leaked to an online source, by USN personnel, quite a few years ago. Also, the newer “Gimbal” footage, as I have discovered, was also leaked by USN personnel, though not to an online server for all to see. Informal, isolated leaks aside, Elizondo understandably wished to see that these segments of unusual footage were as properly accounted for as possible, as did those he has confided in. Working with a number of interested parties, either directly or indirectly, which have included an unusual outfit known as the “To The Stars Academy” (TTSA), plus The New York Times, Bigelow Aerospace, and others, Elizondo has not, as yet, demonstrated exactly how he had the videos were declassified or otherwise released. Researchers, and the wider public, have yet to see copies of any “chain of custody” documentation.

The author states that they found out how the request was made, not a FOIA request, and that they are waiting for a result.

[Fila]

I don't like this organisation at all. They are all about secrecy.., and hype at the same time.