Blinded by your religion.

[StarMountainKid]

1 hour ago, danydandan said:

Can't prove thoughts or disprove them so it's a moot point

It seems when we need to analyse mind and thought as it relates to this subject, belief, God, religion, it's a moot point. Isn't it constructive to carefully consider from where our beliefs originate? 

[Will Due]

3 minutes ago, danydandan said:

Can't prove thoughts or disprove them so it's a moot point

 

Now your thinking. Which if you keep it up, you'll end up blind too.

 

 

Edited March 19, 2018 by Will Due

[XenoFish]

2 minutes ago, StarMountainKid said:

It seems when we need to analyse mind and thought as it relates to this subject, belief, God, religion, it's a moot point. Isn't it constructive to carefully consider from where our beliefs originate? 

https://www.nature.com/articles/474446a

[danydandan]

2 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

https://www.nature.com/articles/474446a

I was gonna link that article. It's a good one

[XenoFish]

Just now, danydandan said:

I was gonna link that article. It's a good one

I plan on saving it. Give it a few good reads. 

[danydandan]

By reading your having thoughts.

[Illyrius]

9 minutes ago, Will Due said:

 

Now your thinking. Which if you keep it up, you'll end up blind too.

 

 

[GoldenWolf]

1 hour ago, Will Due said:

 

What do you do when you're blinded by your atheism (lack of faith)?

How will you see if you've been blinded?

 

 

[StarMountainKid]

1 hour ago, danydandan said:

By reading your having thoughts.

Yes, so when we're reading some holy book, it is just thought. 

[danydandan]

1 minute ago, StarMountainKid said:

Yes, so when we're reading some holy book, it is just thought. 

Everything is relative

[StarMountainKid]

1 hour ago, danydandan said:

Everything is relative

Everything is relative. So, where is the reality in this relativity?

[StarMountainKid]

Let's say I want to see what is real. I don't want to be fooled or deceived, not by myself or by anyone else. How do I do this?

[danydandan]

3 minutes ago, StarMountainKid said:

Everything is relative. So, where is the reality in this relativity?

Reality is also relative.

[danydandan]

2 minutes ago, StarMountainKid said:

Let's say I want to see what is real. I don't want to be fooled or deceived, not by myself or by anyone else. How do I do this?

Scientific methodology is what use day to day being peer reviewed usually keeps you on the straight and narrow

[Illyrius]

3 minutes ago, StarMountainKid said:

Let's say I want to see what is real. I don't want to be fooled or deceived, not by myself or by anyone else. How do I do this?

It's impossible.

Deception and self deception is a part of the relative cosmic disorder.

[Piney]

2 minutes ago, StarMountainKid said:

Let's say I want to see what is real. I don't want to be fooled or deceived, not by myself or by anyone else. How do I do this?

Here's a thought from my Aunt Emma.

"Science, history and religion must agree. If science and history don't agree with a part of religion. That part of religion is nonsense, and nonsense has no place in a Quaker Meeting".

[StarMountainKid]

1 hour ago, danydandan said:

Reality is also relative.

Reality is relative to what? Reality is only relative to the subjective. The subjective is the illusion one creates for one's self.

[danydandan]

3 minutes ago, StarMountainKid said:

Reality is relative to what? Reality is only relative to the subjective. The subjective is the illusion one creates for one's self.

Reality is what you and only you perceive it to be.

[StarMountainKid]

1 hour ago, Illyrius said:

It's impossible.

Deception and self deception is a part of the relative cosmic disorder.

The relative cosmic disorder. ") I consider the cosmos quite ordered in its own way, it's we humans who introduce disorder. That's why we should try and discover order within our own minds. It's possible if we can analyse our thoughts, the origins of our thoughts.

[StarMountainKid]

1 hour ago, danydandan said:

Reality is what you and only you perceive it to be.

If this is the case, then we can never discover something that is not distorted by our particular perceptions. Can we transcend our own learned perceptions, and see what actually is?

[StarMountainKid]

I think all this is pertinent to the subject, "Blinded by your religion", in the sense that when we add something 'extra' to what is, we no longer see what is, we see the 'extra' we have added to it. The 'extra' part is just a thought we imagine, and we are blind to the simple reality of what is. 

[danydandan]

10 minutes ago, StarMountainKid said:

If this is the case, then we can never discover something that is not distorted by our particular perceptions. Can we transcend our own learned perceptions, and see what actually is?

It's like this.

You or I cannot prove what is going on in our minds. Therefore reality is what you perceive it to be. One can't jump into another boby and experience what the person is thinking.

 

 

[StarMountainKid]

1 hour ago, danydandan said:

It's like this.

You or I cannot prove what is going on in our minds. Therefore reality is what you perceive it to be. One can't jump into another boby and experience what the person is thinking.

 

 

I don't quite understand your statement, "You or I cannot prove what is going on in our minds". Prove in what way?

[Saru]

Thread cleaned

Let's keep it civil please folks.

[Illyrius]

14 minutes ago, StarMountainKid said:

I don't quite understand your statement, "You or I cannot prove what is going on in our minds". Prove in what way?

Empirical.