Popular Post Still Waters Posted March 23, 2018 Popular Post #1 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Quote When the mummified remains of a six-inch humanoid were found in an abandoned mining town in Chile’s Atacama desert 15 years ago, speculation on its origins ran wild. The skeleton, which was sold to a private collector in Spain, was so bizarre it appeared in a documentary as potential evidence for alien life. Now scientists in California have extracted DNA from the mummy’s bones and pieced together the real and tragic story of the individual, known as Ata. Rather than a visitor from another world, Ata was a girl who appears to have been stillborn, or to have died immediately after birth, with devastating mutations that shaped her extraordinary body. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/mar/22/genetic-tests-reveal-tragic-reality-of-atacama-alien-skeleton May she finally be allowed to rest in peace. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Piney Posted March 23, 2018 Popular Post #2 Share Posted March 23, 2018 One of the reasons I hate the fringe is the abuse the remains of my cuzzens suffer in the hands of these "researchers?" 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimalists Posted March 23, 2018 #3 Share Posted March 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Piney said: One of the reasons I hate the fringe is the abuse the remains of my cuzzens suffer in the hands of these "researchers?" Some people just don't know how to let the dead rest in peace! I say leave them the hell alone will ya! And I wonder why I have more respect for the dead than the living! Sorry about the abuse of your ancestors dude. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted March 23, 2018 #4 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I question the finality that so many are trying to give this conclusion. It seems people who claim to be skeptics are never skeptical of explanations that fall within the already known. I want to hear from other scientists who have looked into this like Steven Greer and the specialist that said this being lived for many years from the bone growth analysis. And some comments on finding such a rare specimen after all these centuries, etc. And other similar findings to this, etc.. I wonder if this new report is another Roswell is a weather balloon story. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimalists Posted March 23, 2018 #5 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Steven Greer? Seriously? This falls into the same category as Jamie Maussan with his alien mummy theory that turned out to be false....I am not putting a conclusion on it at this point but when a spade is a spade you call it like you see it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted March 23, 2018 #6 Share Posted March 23, 2018 29 minutes ago, Alien Origins said: Steven Greer? Seriously? This falls into the same category as Jamie Maussan with his alien mummy theory that turned out to be false....I am not putting a conclusion on it at this point but when a spade is a spade you call it like you see it. Apparently I have a higher opinion of Steven Greer than you. I am not saying he’s perfect on everything either. As an orientation point for me on your opinion on Steven Greer, are there any proponents of alien/earth interactions that you respect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimalists Posted March 23, 2018 #7 Share Posted March 23, 2018 29 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Apparently I have a higher opinion of Steven Greer than you. I am not saying he’s perfect on everything either. As an orientation point for me on your opinion on Steven Greer, are there any proponents of alien/earth interactions that you respect? Quote As an orientation point for me on your opinion on Steven Greer, are there any proponents of alien/earth interactions that you respect? Richard Dolan is one I like though I don't buy everything he says either....The way I look at this alien/earth interaction stuff especially when it comes to those who espouse this stuff either through books or online is that they are only out for the almighty dollar! Having said that with the amount of hoaxing and downright sleight of hand produced by many of the people in the current field of Ufology who can you take serious anymore? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted March 23, 2018 #8 Share Posted March 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Alien Origins said: Richard Dolan is one I like though I don't buy everything he says either....The way I look at this alien/earth interaction stuff especially when it comes to those who espouse this stuff either through books or online is that they are only out for the almighty dollar! Having said that with the amount of hoaxing and downright sleight of hand produced by many of the people in the current field of Ufology who can you take serious anymore? Yeah, I don’t feel Greer is doing this for the money. He’s serious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimalists Posted March 23, 2018 #9 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, papageorge1 said: Yeah, I don’t feel Greer is doing this for the money. He’s serious. I don't doubt that...I doubt a Doctor is short on cash. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted March 25, 2018 #10 Share Posted March 25, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 3:38 PM, papageorge1 said: Apparently I have a higher opinion of Steven Greer than you. I am not saying he’s perfect on everything either. As an orientation point for me on your opinion on Steven Greer, are there any proponents of alien/earth interactions that you respect? We already know how easily you are fooled by scammers like Greer. The Atacama human remains desecration seems to be the sort of thing that Greer likes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted March 25, 2018 #11 Share Posted March 25, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 6:04 PM, Alien Origins said: I don't doubt that...I doubt a Doctor is short on cash. He's an ex-doc. Does he still have a license? Looked him up and the answer is no. Hasn't practiced medicine in 18 years. License ran out in May of 2000. Calling him doctor now is kinda weird don't you think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted March 25, 2018 #12 Share Posted March 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, stereologist said: We already know how easily you are fooled by scammers like Greer. The Atacama human remains desecration seems to be the sort of thing that Greer likes. Greer always struck me as honest. And I’m nobody’s fool! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted March 25, 2018 #13 Share Posted March 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Greer always struck me as honest. And I’m nobody’s fool! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted March 25, 2018 #14 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 hours ago, papageorge1 said: Greer always struck me as honest. And I’m nobody’s fool! Greer certainly proves otherwise. I can not say it as well as freetoroam did. I tis funny how easily people are taken in by the likes of scammers like Greer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted March 25, 2018 #15 Share Posted March 25, 2018 32 minutes ago, stereologist said: I tis funny how easily people are taken in by the likes of scammers like Greer. And I find it find it telling (not really funny anymore) how some people are so emotionally bothered by paranormal/alien/cryptozoological evidence and experiences presented by credible individuals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted March 25, 2018 #16 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 hours ago, papageorge1 said: Greer always struck me as honest. And I’m nobody’s fool! I think we can agree on “earnest”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimalists Posted March 25, 2018 #17 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: And I find it find it telling (not really funny anymore) how some people are so emotionally bothered by paranormal/alien/cryptozoological evidence and experiences presented by credible individuals. I hardly see how being a traumatologists distinctly qualifies him in any of those fields you mentioned...Of course you don't have to have a degree in any of those.... The above picture was claimed by Greer who is suppose to be a quote unquote medical doctor that it was alien....It has been proven over and over this was a human fetus! Seems his medical ethics went out the window for fame. As far as I know he has not released any credible evidence of ET contact.... Edited March 25, 2018 by Alien Origins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted March 25, 2018 #18 Share Posted March 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, Alien Origins said: I hardly see how being a traumatologists distinctly qualifies him in any of those fields you mentioned...Of course you don't have to have a degree in any of those.... The comment you replied to was a general observation and not just about Greer. 16 minutes ago, Alien Origins said: The above picture was claimed by Greer who is suppose to be a quote unquote medical doctor that it was alien....It has been proven over and over this was a human fetus! Seems his medical ethics went out the window for fame. As far as I know he has not released any credible evidence of ET contact.... I have never heard Greer say it IS alien, but that evidence suggested the possibility. I don't yet know if it has been 'proven' to be 100% human and I will await Greer's response to the latest claim by Nolan. I haven't seen his medical ethics go out the window as you claim either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted March 25, 2018 #19 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) On 3/23/2018 at 8:04 AM, Still Waters said: May she finally be allowed to rest in peace. This is not a case closed situation at all in my estimation as people are trying to claim a final result. Here's a twitter response by Dr. Steven Greer on this latest claim by Dr. Nolan: Atacama Skeleton:More soon at http://SiriusDisclosure.com Bottom line: Stanford U. report junk science, Nolan is part of the TTSA Counter-Inteliigence cell. It is the equivalent of those old guys Doug&Dave claiming to have hoaxed the crop circles and MSM saying Case Closed! Rubbish! I tend to trust Greer more than these guys from what other scientists have reported about the mummy. Edited March 25, 2018 by papageorge1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted March 25, 2018 #20 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Yes, let’s trust people shouting CONSPIRACY rather than easily verifiable science. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted March 25, 2018 #21 Share Posted March 25, 2018 34 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: This is not a case closed situation at all in my estimation as people are trying to claim a final result. Here's a twitter response by Dr. Steven Greer on this latest claim by Dr. Nolan: Atacama Skeleton:More soon at http://SiriusDisclosure.com Bottom line: Stanford U. report junk science, Nolan is part of the TTSA Counter-Inteliigence cell. It is the equivalent of those old guys Doug&Dave claiming to have hoaxed the crop circles and MSM saying Case Closed! Rubbish! I tend to trust Greer more than these guys from what other scientists have reported about the mummy. What OTHER SCIENTISTS? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted March 25, 2018 #22 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 hours ago, papageorge1 said: And I find it find it telling (not really funny anymore) how some people are so emotionally bothered by paranormal/alien/cryptozoological evidence and experiences presented by credible individuals. Obviously that has nothing at all do with a scammer like Greer. Greer is not in anyway credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted March 25, 2018 #23 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Alien Origins said: I hardly see how being a traumatologists distinctly qualifies him in any of those fields you mentioned...Of course you don't have to have a degree in any of those.... The above picture was claimed by Greer who is suppose to be a quote unquote medical doctor that it was alien....It has been proven over and over this was a human fetus! Seems his medical ethics went out the window for fame. As far as I know he has not released any credible evidence of ET contact.... Don't forget hat Greer has spent uch time as a scammer of UFO believers than he did as an MD. He had a medical license for only 12 years. He has been a scammer for 18 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted March 25, 2018 #24 Share Posted March 25, 2018 27 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: What OTHER SCIENTISTS? Those in the Sirius material like Dr. Ralph Lachman who is a visiting scholar and visiting professor at Stanford University and author of “Radiology of Syndromes, Metabolic Disorders and Skeletal Dysplasias” and is one of the leading experts in the world on skeletal dysplasia and abnormalities, examined the X Rays, CAT scans and photographs of the humanoid. Dr. Lachman has concluded that the humanoid’s appearance is NOT the result of any known deformity, genetic defect, skeletal dysplasia or any other known human abnormality. However, the most startling conclusion to date (04.22.12) is that Dr. Lachman concluded the humanoid lived to be 6- 8 years of age. This was assessed by examining the epiphyseal plates in the knees and comparing these to normal humans of various ages. He noted that there is no known form of human dwarfism that has this presentation and set of findings. No human has been known to be able to live for 6-8 years and remain only 6 inches in length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted March 25, 2018 #25 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, papageorge1 said: This is not a case closed situation at all in my estimation as people are trying to claim a final result. Here's a twitter response by Dr. Steven Greer on this latest claim by Dr. Nolan: **snipped nonsense** I tend to trust Greer more than these guys from what other scientists have reported about the mummy. Of course you are going along with your close minded approach avoiding the evidence. Your extremely gullible stance is to avoid the evidence and instead make an appeal to authority in which you pretend that someone is credible. Get back to the evidence and the evidence shows quite clearly that the Atacama being is human. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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