ajfriman Posted April 1, 2018 #1 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Hello, Elongated skulls share the trademarks of a pattern I call "From adoration derives Imitation". To simplify, this means the following: We have found elongated skull made by manipulating the human cranial form. Natural question is why? My answer is - From adoration derived Imitation. I mean by this: many people, especially youngsters today imitate their idols; musicians, actors, players etc. My conclusion is that a race of species once interacted with humans, (possibly manufactured us, see bible and other creation stories), made material things and acted as supreme beings, that people could not comprehend, but were in awe and astonished. So, obviously the form of a head, that was likened to be the base of intellect and manifested personified actions, should be similar as the ones they admired. Naturally it is more complex than that, but from adoration derived imitation, thus man made elongated skulls, a quest to receive the powers that the supreme ones had. Long story short - Then one day, we decided to question their actions and rebelled against them by the force of numbers and the rest is hidden history: Remains of once unified civilization all over the world and similar creation stories. What more proof do we need here really ? If natural heritage sites would be allowed to be excavated more, major discoveries would be found, not to mention to fund archeology the way it should be. As if we are a race with amnesia. There are obviously people who know these things, but has decided to suppress the actual information. I am sure that writings and such that recall and tell the stories of our past, exists but are behind closed doors. Because I do not claim to know the reason for this, I cannot know is it a good thing or a bad thing, but my feeling says that ultimately truth should be told, even if it is frightening and diminishes our value as a sovereign species in the planet earth and in the universe for that matter. Question is why? Of course the is information that one should grow into, and not receive it immaturely, but information our true past, should it be hidden ? Here is three pages from my book that wonders the mystery of the elongated skulls. 1 *Snip*2 *Snip* 3 *Snip*What I do know, is that the elongated skulls should receive much more serious investigation, and because that is not the case, I sense something worth hiding. The same idea covers archeology and history in general. Ever wondered why most of the major archeological sites remain still mostly, unexacavated ? Yes, they are national heritage sites, but also a clever means to limit the potential for significant discoveries. We could do research without destroying the sites of course. Also, why archeology does not receive the funding it should? Isn`t knowledge of our past crucial in essence to understand where we are, should go and how ? Who is hiding what and most of all why ? Kind regards, AJFriman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Piney Posted April 1, 2018 Popular Post #2 Share Posted April 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, ajfriman said: My conclusion is that a race of species once interacted with humans, (possibly manufactured us, see bible and other creation stories), Genetics and evolutionary science shows otherwise. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Orphalesion Posted April 1, 2018 Popular Post #3 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) So was there also a "race of species" with hugely enlarged lower lips (leading to some tribes in Africa doing that plate thing with theirs) and a "race of species" with giraffe legs leading to other tribes using necklaces to elongate their necks? And a race of species with flower feet that inspired foot binding? People have just always gone to ridiculous lengths to modify their bodies. To stand out, to mark themselves as members of the same group, out of norms etc etc etc. It can start as a fashion, then becomes a custom then a tradition etc etc etc. Doesn't need any aliens. Edited April 1, 2018 by Orphalesion 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimalists Posted April 1, 2018 #4 Share Posted April 1, 2018 I think its commonly called head binding: http://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena-opinion-guest-authors/world-wide-mysterious-phenomena-elongated-skulls-00939 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted April 1, 2018 #5 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ajfriman said: Elongated skulls share the trademarks of a pattern I call "From adoration derives Imitation". I have had similar thoughts about head elongation. Why? I have also given serious consideration to the possibility that ancient people were impressed by a more advanced type of being that had these differently proportioned heads. Depictions of aliens from those claiming glimpses very commonly show these larger head proportions. Hmmm...... Also I agree with your ideas that earth history is far deeper and richer than what we find in our ancient history textbooks. Edited April 2, 2018 by papageorge1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted April 1, 2018 #6 Share Posted April 1, 2018 49 minutes ago, Orphalesion said: So was there also a "race of species" with hugely enlarged lower lips (leading to some tribes in Africa doing that plate thing with theirs) and a "race of species" with giraffe legs leading to other tribes using necklaces to elongate their necks? And a race of species with flower feet that inspired foot binding? People have just always gone to ridiculous lengths to modify their bodies. To stand out, to mark themselves as members of the same group, out of norms etc etc etc. It can start as a fashion, then becomes a custom then a tradition etc etc etc. Doesn't need any aliens. The Kimochnii who portrayed wolves during the Adena-Middlesex Period had their bottom teeth pulled and their avelovar ridges smashed out so they could attach a wolf snout that opened and closed with their mouths. I'm glad we started carving masks rather than walking around looking like I had leprosy on my face. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted April 2, 2018 #7 Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) Quote Binding skulls. https://search.aol.com/aol/image;_ylt=A2KLfSIudsFamswAAHNpCWVH;_ylu=X3oDMTByMDgyYjJiBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?q=binding+skulls&v_t=comsearch Edited April 2, 2018 by docyabut2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kmt_sesh Posted April 2, 2018 Popular Post #8 Share Posted April 2, 2018 We have four of these skulls on display right now at our museum in a special exhibit about Peruvian and Egyptian mummies. Of the four, one is from the "famous" Paracas culture. All of these skulls are perfectly ordinary human skulls with the exception that they underwent head binding as infants that led to skull deformation. I have to disagree with your catch phrase "From adoration derives Imitation." We don't know what originally inspired the idea to create skull deformation in South America or in other places like Nigeria. It's of course entirely human inspired, but who started it first, and why, is not well understood. It has nothing to do with aliens. What we do know is that those with skull deformation were usually from the upper class. It's doubtful that everyone in a particular culture underwent head binding. The truth is, ajfrimman, many such skulls exist in museums around the world, and they've been studied very carefully. They're entirely human, genetically and by morphology. The fact that they look weird to modern people certainly doesn't mean they're alien or alien inspired. There is simply zero evidence for that. I am always going to go with professional research and science. There is no evidence for aliens of any kind. Goofy websites do not provide you useful information. I strongly suggest you close your browser, go to the library, and read up on pre-columbian cultures from the men and women who are trained to interpret them. When it comes to skulls like these, many of the researchers are South American themselves. We're one of the largest museums in the world. We don't display the four skulls very often because they're so delicate and brittle, but we're showing these four now, for about a year. We want you to see them. The old yarn about a museum "hiding" artifacts is a tired old fabrication and there's no reason for anyone even to entertain the idea. Trust me, as someone who volunteers his time and has seen practically every inch of the place, including the vast overstorage holdings that aren't often displayed, there simply is no truth to the "hidden" nonsense. On a separate note, one of the skulls we're displaying was bound in an odd way. His skull was compressed on both sides and across the crown of the head so that it ended up noticeably heart shaped. This skull always reminds me of the Pointy Haired Boss from the comic strip Dilbert. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnicolette Posted April 2, 2018 #9 Share Posted April 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Her skull is clearly bound, but it is disappointingg and ridiculous that our best explanation for all elongated skulls is binding. There is a clear difference between this picture and the skulls with abnormal growth. Binding does not cause extra growth, it can only stunt and deform like the girl in this picture . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted April 2, 2018 #10 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, NicoletteS said: Her skull is clearly bound, but it is disappointingg and ridiculous that our best explanation for all elongated skulls is binding. There is a clear difference between this picture and the skulls with abnormal growth. Binding does not cause extra growth, it can only stunt and deform like the girl in this picture . Some cultures wanted to believe their brains and smart were big by binding 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted April 2, 2018 #11 Share Posted April 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, NicoletteS said: Her skull is clearly bound, but it is disappointingg and ridiculous that our best explanation for all elongated skulls is binding. There is a clear difference between this picture and the skulls with abnormal growth. Binding does not cause extra growth, it can only stunt and deform like the girl in this picture . Skuls deformed by pathology are simple to recognize. The abnormal growth is not symmetrical. The skulls I described in my earlier post and all of those I've seen elsewhere in this thread, are definitely derived from head binding. They're certainly human but human skulls don't form that way naturally. I agree with you that head binding itself doesn't cause abnormal growth. Head binding just causes abnormal shape or proportions as the child grows. A common comment by fringies is that these skulls have a much larger cranial capacity and are thus not human. This is just nonsense. When these skulls are studied by forensic experts who know what they're doing, it turns out most have the same cranial capacities as regular human skulls, although some do have a slightly increased capacity. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted April 2, 2018 #12 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On April 1, 2018 at 5:38 PM, ajfriman said: Elongated skulls share the trademarks of a pattern I call "From adoration derives Imitation". To simplify, this means the following: We have found elongated skull made by manipulating the human cranial form. Natural question is why? My answer is - From adoration derived Imitation. I think you've got the cart before the horse, here. If this was the case, then the rock art of the area would have shown these features during a time period when skull elongation in the group was not known. People make representations of powerful deities as ways of summoning them or using the powers that these deities have to help the person invoking them. We don't see this in the art of those areas - the deity figures do not have elongated skulls. In addition, the timelines don't match up. The skulls from Russia (and Bavaria) are from after 100 AD and are very few in number. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation#History Quote My conclusion is that a race of species once interacted with humans, (possibly manufactured us, see bible and other creation stories), made material things and acted as supreme beings, that people could not comprehend, but were in awe and astonished. Then one day, we decided to question their actions and rebelled against them by the force of numbers and the rest is hidden history: Remains of once unified civilization all over the world and similar creation stories. No offense - but have you actually read the Bible and these other documents? I ask, because the deities in these are not high tech powerful beings. Yahweh in the Bible was defeated by iron chariots, for instance (Judges 1:19). And none of these texts talk about deities having long skulls. Also, creation and rise of civilization stories are not that similar (and some groups who did head binding were nomads, like the Sami of Finland.) In some cases we know (from the people themselves) why the process was done -usually it's for standards of beauty (like the Maya and Inca) and in many cases it's done to separate the classes (only high status or special people had their heads bound.) Quote Here is three pages from my book that wonders the mystery of the elongated skulls. 1 *Snip* You're also confusing skull shape with hats and with paintings of hats. In a lot of cases (the Sultan, for instance) a hat that big would be unwearable. And neither the Egyptians nor the Japanese practiced head binding - and the headgear is not from some legendary time period. These skeletons and sites are indeed being studied - but if you read Mysterious Earth sites you're not going to get any reports on this. You'll just get recycled gosh-wow-golly stuff from the fringe. And you miss all the really neat stuff. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted April 2, 2018 #13 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Also... to consider the popular notion in followers of Von Daniken and Velikovsky that primitive humans somehow rebelled against their Galactic Overlords... First of all, why would they even consider taming/enslaving humans when they could have robots do whatever they liked. Robots don't rebel, can function from the first day they're born (unlike humans, who take a full 9 months just to learn to walk badly), and are far cheaper to feed and maintain. And robots don't rebel any more than your lamp rebels. No primitive group has ever managed to overthrow a technologically superior force. The superior force might decide to free them for a variety of reasons, but rock throwing primitives don't win out over a group of lightsaber wielding, k-bomb enabled, ultra planetary fighter ships. Not even by being very germ-y and plague ridden. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphalesion Posted April 2, 2018 #14 Share Posted April 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, Kenemet said: Also... to consider the popular notion in followers of Von Daniken and Velikovsky that primitive humans somehow rebelled against their Galactic Overlords... First of all, why would they even consider taming/enslaving humans when they could have robots do whatever they liked. Robots don't rebel, can function from the first day they're born (unlike humans, who take a full 9 months just to learn to walk badly), and are far cheaper to feed and maintain. And robots don't rebel any more than your lamp rebels. No primitive group has ever managed to overthrow a technologically superior force. The superior force might decide to free them for a variety of reasons, but rock throwing primitives don't win out over a group of lightsaber wielding, k-bomb enabled, ultra planetary fighter ships. Not even by being very germ-y and plague ridden. Plus why even bother with Earth? If they had needed it for settlement I dare say they would have come in numbers too large for us to overthrow. And any possible natural resource they might want, they can get from literally any other place that doesn't have easily irritable apes running around on it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted April 2, 2018 #15 Share Posted April 2, 2018 9 hours ago, papageorge1 said: I have had similar thoughts about head elongation. Why? I have also given serious consideration to the possibility that ancient people were impressed by a more advanced type of being that had these differently proportioned heads. Depictions of aliens from those claiming glimpses very commonly show these larger head proportions. Hmmm...... Also I agree with your ideas that earth history is far deeper and richer than what we find in our ancient history textbooks. maybe. but doesn't it make more sense that binding was a sign of royalty or noble birth? a special person for life and something that couldn't be faked by any pretenders. also, asian's are known for binding the feet of women to make them more attractive. does that mean that aliens had small feet too? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted April 2, 2018 #16 Share Posted April 2, 2018 9 hours ago, Piney said: The Kimochnii who portrayed wolves during the Adena-Middlesex Period had their bottom teeth pulled and their avelovar ridges smashed out so they could attach a wolf snout that opened and closed with their mouths. I'm glad we started carving masks rather than walking around looking like I had leprosy on my face. Holy **** .... REALLY!? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted April 2, 2018 #17 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Holy **** .... REALLY!? That's the references Swede was getting for me from his collection of PDFs. The Nish Nabs and the Mohican might of still practiced it during contact which is where the "dogman" legends in New York and Michigan might of came from. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted April 2, 2018 #18 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Piney said: That's the references Swede was getting for me from his collection of PDFs. The Nish Nabs and the Mohican might of still practiced it during contact which is where the "dogman" legends in New York and Michigan might of came from. I reiterate ... holy ****. All my ancestors did was paint themselves blue and dress up as trees. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted April 2, 2018 #19 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: I reiterate ... holy ****. All my ancestors did was paint themselves blue and dress up as trees. Well, I had to learn how to dislocate joints but that is waaaay too far for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfriman Posted April 2, 2018 Author #20 Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) Hello, To clarify - This is a book " The Holey Mindbell" that I made while studying print design and arts. I designed the layout, design, casing, and completed the manufacturing process. Below a cover design, Preface, contents and one whole spread illustration. Here is a short instagram video showing the casing and the book itself : *Snip* Edited April 3, 2018 by kmt_sesh Advertizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfriman Posted April 2, 2018 Author #21 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On April 1, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Orphalesion said: So was there also a "race of species" with hugely enlarged lower lips (leading to some tribes in Africa doing that plate thing with theirs) and a "race of species" with giraffe legs leading to other tribes using necklaces to elongate their necks? And a race of species with flower feet that inspired foot binding? People have just always gone to ridiculous lengths to modify their bodies. To stand out, to mark themselves as members of the same group, out of norms etc etc etc. It can start as a fashion, then becomes a custom then a tradition etc etc etc. Doesn't need any aliens. Funny you should mention the lip plate. I have a page that concerns this bizarre tradition. Did you know that Native tribes from Alaska and North Canada also practised the use of a lip plate ? *Snip* Curious... As to a different "race": Good question, rather difficult one. I am currently seeking for a resolution of this matter. As of today because I do not know the truth, I am open to possibilities, no matter how obscure and contradictionary to current paradigm they might seem. After all, history has proven so many outlandish claims to be proven right through time. "Doesn't need any aliens", maybe so.. Still, various historical texts, folklore and religious writings around the globe tell of a story of intelligent being of sorts, ie God / Gods interacting with natives. Of course,It is a matter of interpretation, but we simply cannot declare all ancient texts as fiction and nothing more. The question is where do we draw the line, or how are we able to follow the thin red line of collective truth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfriman Posted April 2, 2018 Author #22 Share Posted April 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Piney said: Genetics and evolutionary science shows otherwise. As a layman concerning microbiology, I try to give some open opinion- Yes, as of today they seem to beg the differ., but genetics and evolutionary science is all but solved, as far as life in planet earth is concerned. After all, many microorganism ie life forms have come here along with meteors, and if we trace the forming of a planet earth far enough, it is composite of various materials from here and there. I think that the differences are not that noticeable, rather subtle. I wonder what so called "junk dna" turns out to be in the future..? What about this quote - "Cambridge researchers say we acquired essential 'foreign' genes from microorganisms co-habiting their environment in ancient times" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2994187/Mystery-alien-genes-Scientists-discover-DNA-NOT-ancestors-say-change-think-evolution.html I see evolutionary science to "evolve" in their conclusions: https://www.nature.com/news/does-evolutionary-theory-need-a-rethink-1.16080 Well, time will resolve these questions towards more fine tuned understanding of what we are, and where.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted April 2, 2018 #23 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, ajfriman said: As a layman concerning microbiology, I try to give some open opinion- Yes, as of today they seem to beg the differ., but genetics and evolutionary science is all but solved, as far as life in planet earth is concerned. After all, many microorganism ie life forms have come here along with meteors, and if we trace the forming of a planet earth far enough, it is composite of various materials from here and there. I think that the differences are not that noticeable, rather subtle. I wonder what so called "junk dna" turns out to be in the future..? What about this quote - "Cambridge researchers say we acquired essential 'foreign' genes from microorganisms co-habiting their environment in ancient times" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2994187/Mystery-alien-genes-Scientists-discover-DNA-NOT-ancestors-say-change-think-evolution.html I see evolutionary science to "evolve" in their conclusions: https://www.nature.com/news/does-evolutionary-theory-need-a-rethink-1.16080 Well, time will resolve these questions towards more fine tuned understanding of what we are, and where.. The foreign DNA is collected from zoonotic diseases that have transferred from animals and viruses we picked up in our travels. Not a alien race. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted April 2, 2018 #24 Share Posted April 2, 2018 16 hours ago, ajfriman said: Funny you should mention the lip plate. I have a page that concerns this bizarre tradition. Did you know that Native tribes from Alaska and North Canada also practised the use of a lip plate ? *Snip* Curious... As to a different "race": Good question, rather difficult one. I am currently seeking for a resolution of this matter. As of today because I do not know the truth, I am open to possibilities, no matter how obscure and contradictionary to current paradigm they might seem. After all, history has proven so many outlandish claims to be proven right through time. "Doesn't need any aliens", maybe so.. Still, various historical texts, folklore and religious writings around the globe tell of a story of intelligent being of sorts, ie God / Gods interacting with natives. Of course,It is a matter of interpretation, but we simply cannot declare all ancient texts as fiction and nothing more. The question is where do we draw the line, or how are we able to follow the thin red line of collective truth ? So It took a alien race to teach us native brown people in the Americas about building and plant genetics. Rather a racist concept, is it not? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted April 2, 2018 #25 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Here’s a question, and thanks to Piney for brining it up, how come the aliens didn’t meet up with my lot and do whatever? How come no one ever picked the Celts or the Romans or the Britons or the Goths as part of these narratives? We built stuff damnit! We made Stonehenge! We made Barrows and carved pictures of horses and giants with huge “clubs” into mountain sides. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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