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Loks like it would get pretty boring after 12 days with nothin to do but lok out the window.  

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42 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

Loks like it would get pretty boring after 12 days with nothin to do but lok out the window.  

Merc, if I gave you the $10 million for a ticket, I bet you would go. You could always take a good book. 

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1 hour ago, Merc14 said:

Loks like it would get pretty boring after 12 days with nothin to do but lok out the window.  

Astronauts have spent 12 months in space and never got bored of looking out of the window.

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56 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

Loks like it would get pretty boring after 12 days with nothin to do but lok out the window.  

I don't know, add a gym to it I bet there all kinds of things I could think of to do in weighless orbit, after I got over the barfing part.  

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1 hour ago, Derek Willis said:

Merc, if I gave you the $10 million for a ticket, I bet you would go. You could always take a good book. 

For $10 million I'd stand on my head for 12 days.  :lol:

48 minutes ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

Astronauts have spent 12 months in space and never got bored of looking out of the window.

Those guys are busy, not sure what they'd have for these fiolks to do 24/7 for 12 days.  

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44 minutes ago, seanjo said:

Astronauts are busy...

 

16 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

Those guys are busy,

A fair point, however remember that there are people prepared to pay a lot of money to spend a couple of weeks on a cruise ship and never get off. Just as with a cruise ship it would depend on the facilities on board.

My idea of hell is two weeks on a beach or skiing, yet both of these activities are popular and profitable. I would rather spend 12 days looking out of a window at Earth than doing either of these things. As long as there are enough people that think that way (and can afford it) the fact that it is other people's idea of a bad time is entirely irrelevant.

The one thing I have noticed about the rich is that many of them are prepared to spend a lot of money just to demonstrate how rich they are.

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32 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

For $10 million I'd stand on my head for 12 days.  :lol:

Those guys are busy, not sure what they'd have for these fiolks to do 24/7 for 12 days.  

You actually make valid point. People go on vacations to look at the scenery, hike, visit museums and so on, and also spend time doing very little. I can understand the attraction of going into orbit and seeing an incredible view of the Earth. But perhaps people would get bored with that over fourteen days. Once you've passed over the Gobi Desert two or three times, would you really be that keen to see it again? There wouldn't be a great deal to do inside the small "hotel", and I can think of far better places to laze about - for instance on a beach. On that basis, I think $1 million for a couple days in space would be far better value for money.

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20 minutes ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

The one thing I have noticed about the rich is that many of them are prepared to spend a lot of money just to demonstrate how rich they are.

That is probably the key to the whole space tourist industry. It's not so much that rich people will truly have a fantastic time - many of them might succumb to "space sickness" and be throwing up all the time - it is the knowledge that they are in an exclusive club. I recently met someone who has bought a ticket for Virgin Galactic, and he seemed to glow when people commented on rich he must be.

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If this is a hotel where is the doorman going to stand. Also won't the air in his uniform and top hat expand when he leaves the foyer?

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I'm sure there would be a casino or two along with indoor pools.  'Indoor pools" sounds funny when you think about where they'd be.  Remember, the term affordable is aimed at the 1% of the 1% that waste that much in a day.

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20 minutes ago, paperdyer said:

I'm sure there would be a casino or two along with indoor pools.  'Indoor pools" sounds funny when you think about where they'd be.  Remember, the term affordable is aimed at the 1% of the 1% that waste that much in a day.

When I made my OP I was gong by the below illustration that accompanied the article which, frankly, didn't show a whole lot things to do but I am sure there would be something included. I mean look at that empty tube!  Maybe a little more effort.  JK  :lol:

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I wouldn't trust a company with my life for 12 days, especially since they can't even get the light source/ shadows correct in their promotional image. :P

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53 minutes ago, Korrelan said:

I wouldn't trust a company with my life for 12 days, especially since they can't even get the light source/ shadows correct in their promotional image. :P

Are you really happy to judge a company's competency based on nothing more than a promotional image?

At least I now know hos so many advertising companies manage to be so obscenely profitable.

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8 hours ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

Are you really happy to judge a company's competency based on nothing more than a promotional image?

As far as I can see, Orion Span consists of nothing other than a promotional image. It seems not to be a physical company - just a series of registration documents lodged in Delaware, and a website. When you link to investors, it says: "Prospective investors are invited to register their interest". The company is, however, asking for $80,000 deposits for trips to their - so far, virtual - space hotel. At least Robert Bigalow has spent a ton of money on his hotels, so whether they come to fruition or not, he has put real money where his mouth is.

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2 hours ago, Derek Willis said:

At least Robert Bigalow has spent a ton of money on his hotels, so whether they come to fruition or not, he has put real money where his mouth is.

You make a fair point, and I agree with much of your assessment of Orion Span, but you certainly did not make that assessment based purely on a promotional image,

Even if Orion are capable of pulling this off their time frame seems ridiculously optimistic.They have not tested the hardware, they have no launch contract for either the station or the tourists. Bigelow has tested 3 of their expandable modules in space, so they know that the hardware is likely to work.They have a contract with Boeing to use the CST-100 Starliner to ferry people into space.

Orion Span may actually make this work, after all Branson and Virgin Galactic were taking deposits from people long before they had constructed any hardware, but I fail to see how they will achieve it as soon as 2021.

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Despite being billed as 'affordable', a 12-day stay aboard the station will set you back $9.5 million.

Maybe in 2021 dollars that's 10,000 modern 2018 dollars? :P

I think if I'd have to have hundreds of millions of dollars doing nothing in order to want to take a vacation like this. I think I'll have to wait for the Motel 8 version to come out.

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11 minutes ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

They have a contract with Boeing to use the CST-100 Starliner to ferry people into space.

I wonder how much just a trip up and back down on the Starliner would cost?

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7 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

I wonder how much just a trip up and back down on the Starliner would cost?

A trip on board a Soyuz will currently set you back around $60million, the Starliner should be considerably less than that. As launch costs are the major cost in spacflight a "straight up and down" flight would not reduce the costs dramatically compared to a stay on a space station.

That brings me to another issue I have with Orion Span, their prices. No one (not even SpaceX on a good day) is going to reduce launch costs by that much by 2021/22.

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4 hours ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

You make a fair point, and I agree with much of your assessment of Orion Span, but you certainly did not make that assessment based purely on a promotional image,

Even if Orion are capable of pulling this off their time frame seems ridiculously optimistic.They have not tested the hardware, they have no launch contract for either the station or the tourists. Bigelow has tested 3 of their expandable modules in space, so they know that the hardware is likely to work.They have a contract with Boeing to use the CST-100 Starliner to ferry people into space.

Orion Span may actually make this work, after all Branson and Virgin Galactic were taking deposits from people long before they had constructed any hardware, but I fail to see how they will achieve it as soon as 2021.

You're right, it is ridiculous making an assessment of anything based purely on a promotional image. I did a bit of internet digging.

I wonder if the space industry is becoming like the social media and app industries were a few years back. You come up with an idea, make a pitch, get some publicity, and then hope investors will get on board. They may pull it off, and I wish them well. Unfortunately, I doubt I will ever have the $10 million to take a ride to their hotel. In any case, if I ever do find $10 million sitting in my bank account, I have already promised to give it to Merc so he can take a trip up there. However, my wife might have something to say about that ...

To be fair, Virgin already had a track record of making money and running an airline. Talking of which, it was good to see they had a successful flight of their space plane yesterday.  

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