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[Captain Risky 5,015]

3 hours ago, ChaosRose said:

Except it's not. 

It's believing the propaganda machine of dictators over what people from your own democratic government are telling you.

And most people are doing this because they're addicted to propaganda and conspiracy porn. 

It validates every ugliness that they carry. 

It's a sickness. 

thats your opinion. and i have mine. U.S. involvement and that of its allies like Saudi Arabia and Turkey speak volumes on how "peaceful demonstrations" quickly became well funded and organised armed insurrections.

removing a dictator and replacing authoritarian rule with intolerable theocracy is not democratic.

a democratic government is only democratic if it can be held accountable. 

[Captain Risky 5,015]

6 minutes ago, bee said:

 

just a reminder..... that Assad is the elected leader of Syria...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_presidential_election,_2014

strange as it may seem .... Syrian People prefer him to lead their secular nation than be taken over by terrorists, Islamic extremists,
mercenaries etc....

  

 

they certainly do now after the excesses of militant Islam. 

[DarkHunter 1,071]

4 minutes ago, bee said:

 

just a reminder..... that Assad is the elected leader of Syria...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_presidential_election,_2014

strange as it may seem .... Syrian People prefer him to lead their secular nation than be taken over by terrorists, Islamic extremists,
mercenaries etc....

  

 

Only problem with that is that the Syrian civil war started in 2011 and that election, if you could call it that, took place in 2014.  

The issue with that election is that the only Syrians to vote in that election in general were the Syrians living in territory controlled by Assad, some refugees were able to vote but some weren't.

Even then there were some issues that call the election into question, largely the numbers were too accurate.  Basically the percentage of the votes for Assad and both of the two contenders were accurate to the nearest single voter as pointed out by Andrew Gelman.  He does admit while this points to fabricated results it doesnt role out the possibility that the percentages are correct and that they worked backwards from that to get the vote numbers.

[bee 10,673]

35 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

they certainly do now after the excesses of militant Islam. 

 

one does have to wonder if leaders like Hussein, Gaddafi and Assad   had to (have to) have a tough approach to
stop the rise of militant Islam.... the devastation we see in Iraq, Libya and Syria is due to the unleashing of militant
Islam on the civilian populations ---- and it was probably a hard job to keep that from happening under 'normal' circumstances
but when the West decided to use militant Islamic terrorists etc as a proxy army to further it's agenda... that's when the sh** really hit
the fan....

Hussein, Gaddafi and Assad are all accused by elements in the West of being brutal dictators....well perhaps they were brutal
towards militant islamists...... but real '''brutal'''' is what ISIS / Al Qaeda and similar groups do to the general public in those
countries....

the West is using appeasement to try and control the spread of militant Islam in western nations but that will probably come
back to bite us in the not too distant future.... 

 

[bee 10,673]

33 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

Only problem with that is that the Syrian civil war started in 2011 and that election, if you could call it that, took place in 2014.  

The issue with that election is that the only Syrians to vote in that election in general were the Syrians living in territory controlled by Assad, some refugees were able to vote but some weren't.

Even then there were some issues that call the election into question, largely the numbers were too accurate.  Basically the percentage of the votes for Assad and both of the two contenders were accurate to the nearest single voter as pointed out by Andrew Gelman.  He does admit while this points to fabricated results it doesnt role out the possibility that the percentages are correct and that they worked backwards from that to get the vote numbers.

 

like I said..... the people of Syria prefer to be lead by the Assad Regime than lead by terrorists and religious nutters....

 

[bmk1245 3,350]

On 4/14/2018 at 1:19 PM, Phaeton80 said:

Without US corporate support Nazi Germany could not have done what it did. Case in point, Henry Ford received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle for his avid Nazi support for godsake.

Get a f*ing sense of history, nuance why not.

 

Russia won us the second world war against the Nazi's, without her the outcome would have been highly questionable, dont get it twisted.

USSR won with the help from USA, and from the fact that russians had occupied many lands before WWII, and the fact that russia is a helluva territory.

Heck, russkies are more land grabbing than anglo-saxons. Everyone are blabbering about how western settlers were efking natives in new world, and who gives a f(many stars) about natives slaughtered by russkies in Siberia, huh?