Origin of ancient Tartessos Treasure revealed

[Still Waters]

New chemical analysis has solved the mystery regarding the origin of the Carambolo Treasure, a magnificent hoard of ancient gold objects discovered by Spanish construction workers near Seville in 1958.

When the 2,700-year-old treasure was first found, it instantly sparked speculation and debate about Tartessos, a civilization that thrived in southern Spain between the ninth and sixth centuries B.C. Ancient sources described the Tartessians as a wealthy, advanced culture, ruled by a king. That wealth, and the fact that the Tartessians seemingly 'disappear' from history about 2,500 years ago, has led to theories equating Tartessos with the mythical site of Atlantis.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/04/carambolo-treasure-tartessos-gold-atlantis-spain-archaeology/

[SoulRiderX]

one mystery solved, thousands still left unsolved. great work people! 

[Hanslune]

Nice use of that technique (looking at the chemical signature to determine where metal comes from).

One interesting quote:

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While researchers continue to unravel the mysteries surrounding Tartessos, both Navarro and Perea are in complete agreement when it comes to the potential connection between the ancient civilization and the Atlantis theory.

“That’s complete madness. That has nothing to do with archaeology or scientific research,” Perea says.

 

[Abramelin]

On 4/11/2018 at 4:46 PM, Still Waters said:

New chemical analysis has solved the mystery regarding the origin of the Carambolo Treasure, a magnificent hoard of ancient gold objects discovered by Spanish construction workers near Seville in 1958.

When the 2,700-year-old treasure was first found, it instantly sparked speculation and debate about Tartessos, a civilization that thrived in southern Spain between the ninth and sixth centuries B.C. Ancient sources described the Tartessians as a wealthy, advanced culture, ruled by a king. That wealth, and the fact that the Tartessians seemingly 'disappear' from history about 2,500 years ago, has led to theories equating Tartessos with the mythical site of Atlantis.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/04/carambolo-treasure-tartessos-gold-atlantis-spain-archaeology/

Great:

 

[Abramelin]

On 7/1/2021 at 6:56 PM, Abramelin said:

Great:

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/carambolo-treasure-tartessos-gold-atlantis-spain-archaeology

 

[Still Waters]

It should be noted that the article in my OP was posted in 2018, this is an old thread that's been bumped up. At the time I posted it the link in my OP worked, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.

[Grim Reaper 6]

On 4/11/2018 at 11:46 PM, Still Waters said:

New chemical analysis has solved the mystery regarding the origin of the Carambolo Treasure, a magnificent hoard of ancient gold objects discovered by Spanish construction workers near Seville in 1958.

When the 2,700-year-old treasure was first found, it instantly sparked speculation and debate about Tartessos, a civilization that thrived in southern Spain between the ninth and sixth centuries B.C. Ancient sources described the Tartessians as a wealthy, advanced culture, ruled by a king. That wealth, and the fact that the Tartessians seemingly 'disappear' from history about 2,500 years ago, has led to theories equating Tartessos with the mythical site of Atlantis.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/04/carambolo-treasure-tartessos-gold-atlantis-spain-archaeology/

This is a very interesting thread, and also an interesting culture. The one thing I find most interesting Taressians is how little is known about where they came from and the way they disappeared approximately 2500 years ago. I really like mysteries and this culture certainly fits that title both in there origins and in their ultimate demise. It appears that many Scholars today have the opinion that they may have been originally from the Celtic culture and it appear that their language may support this. 

If anyone is intetested below is a paper that explores this subject in a little mire depth:

The enigmatic "Tartessian" Monuments of South Portugal. 

https://ininet.org/the-enigmatic-tartessian-monuments-of-south-portugal-g-j-boeks.html

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

4 minutes ago, Still Waters said:

It should be noted that the article in my OP was posted in 2018, this is an old thread that's been bumped up. At the time I posted it the link in my OP worked, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.

It does matter to me, it's a very interesting topic, I am glad you reposted it. I also added a paper to you thread, again thanks for starting this thread!

[Still Waters]

2 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

It does matter to me, it's a very interesting topic, I am glad you reposted it. I also added a paper to you thread, again thanks for starting this thread!

I didn't repost it. This is the original thread from 2018.

[Grim Reaper 6]

7 minutes ago, Still Waters said:

I didn't repost it. This is the original thread from 2018.

I understand, but it doesn't matter to me. I had never heard about this culture before and I enjoyed learning about!

[Abramelin]

2 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

I understand, but it doesn't matter to me. I had never heard about this culture before and I enjoyed learning about!

I once wanted to start a thread about Tartessos, but I'll keep it in the freezer for now.

Here's something controversial about the language the Tartessians may have spoken:

link

[Abramelin]

An informative site about Tartessos:

https://www.red2000.com/spain/primer/tartessos.html

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

7 hours ago, Abramelin said:

I once wanted to start a thread about Tartessos, but I'll keep it in the freezer for now.

Here's something controversial about the language the Tartessians may have spoken:

link

Hey thanks for the link, but it doesn't work for me, it maybe do to my location.

Thanks

[Grim Reaper 6]

7 hours ago, Abramelin said:

An informative site about Tartessos:

https://www.red2000.com/spain/primer/tartessos.html

 

That's an interesting story, thanks for sharing.

[Abramelin]

7 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Hey thanks for the link, but it doesn't work for me, it maybe do to my location.

Thanks

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 hour ago, Abramelin said:

 

Thank you Abramelin, that's pretty interesting I had no idea of the convergence of these different languages. I am going to continue to read up on the subject. I have already found a few papers that supply some additional information on the subject of the hamito-Semitic language variant and the part it played in the development of other Proto-European languages. Abramelin, again thanks pointing me in the right direct,  and for supplying the sources of information you supplied. 

Below I offer some papers and articles on the Hamito-Semitic language isolate to anyone else who find the subject interesting and would like additional information about it!

Tartessian: Celtic in the South-west at the Dawn of History: https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/33688867/Koch_Tartessian_2nd_edn_llai_3-with-cover-page-v2.pdf?

A toponomastic contribution to the linguistic prehistory of the British Isle: https://uwe-repository.worktribe.com/OutputFile/952276

The Question of a Hamito-Semitic Substratum in Insular Celtic: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Steve-Hewitt/publication/220531527

The Stages of Hamito-Semitic: https://dspace.uni.lodz.pl/bitstream/handle/11089/16917/43_21.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

A Typological Evaluation of Celtic/Hamito-Semitic Syntactic Parallels:  https://escholarship.org/content/qt8p00g5sd/qt8p00g5sd.pdf

[Abramelin]

Old news, jesus.

But ok, you tried.