UM-Bot Posted April 21, 2018 #1 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Scientists have warned that cows could eventually become the largest remaining mammals on Earth. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/317431/cows-could-end-up-as-worlds-largest-mammals 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Monk Posted April 21, 2018 #2 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Why are they warning us about it? It's not a problem at all and most people don't care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Essan Posted April 21, 2018 Popular Post #3 Share Posted April 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Black Monk said: Why are they warning us about it? It's not a problem at all and most people don't care. You mean you don't care if we make the elephants, rhinos, buffalo, whales, giraffes etc extinct. A lot of other people do care. It's what makes us human. 10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Monk Posted April 21, 2018 #4 Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Essan said: You mean you don't care if we make the elephants, rhinos, buffalo, whales, giraffes. No, I dont. Extinction is a normal state of affairs. 99% of all species that have ever lived are extinct. Quote A lot of other people do care. I suspect the vast majority of people don't care. It has no bearing or effect on most people's lives and serves no detrimental effect to the planet and almost all humans. Edited April 21, 2018 by Black Monk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted April 21, 2018 #5 Share Posted April 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Black Monk said: I suspect the vast majority of people don't care. It has no bearing or effect on most people's lives and serves no detrimental effect to the planet and almost all humans. You sure about that last part? That's a massive cut to take and miss. When we look at things like what happened to Yellowstone when wolves were reintroduced and the effect that had on everything from fish to fowl I have to think that losing pieces of our ecosystem unnaturally will undoubtedly have negative consequences on humanity. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Monk Posted April 21, 2018 #6 Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: You sure about that last part? That's a massive cut to take and miss. When we look at things like what happened to Yellowstone when wolves were reintroduced and the effect that had on everything from fish to fowl I have to think that losing pieces of our ecosystem unnaturally will undoubtedly have negative consequences on humanity. Wolves went extinct in Britain (probably as recently as 1888) and as far as I know it had little or zero detrimental effect. In fact, most people most likely don't want them back. 99% of all Earth's species that have ever lived are extinct. If there are suddenly no more giraffes or elephants then so what? Edited April 21, 2018 by Black Monk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted April 21, 2018 #7 Share Posted April 21, 2018 56 minutes ago, Black Monk said: Wolves went extinct in Britain (probably as recently as 1888) and as far as I know it had little or zero detrimental effect. Well, it's a contributory factor in the massive over population of deer, subsequent lack of native woodland regeneration, and, indeed, until recently, why people were prevented form climbing half Scotland's hills (so the Laird and his chums could shoot the deer that otherwise wouldn't have needed culling). Hence why there are calls to reintroduce them. And whilst most people may not notice if there are no more hippos or saltwater crocodiles, smaller species are a different matter. Take away the birds and the bees ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Monk Posted April 21, 2018 #8 Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Essan said: Hence why there are calls to reintroduce them. By a few Greenpeacers, Swampies and ecomentalists, but the vast majority of ordinary Britons are indifferent to the matter and care not one jolt for the extinction of the wolf in this land. Edited April 21, 2018 by Black Monk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twobytwice Posted April 21, 2018 #9 Share Posted April 21, 2018 They will be the largest ONLY if we continue to eat them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susanc241 Posted April 21, 2018 #10 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Black Monk may speak for themself but not for me, nor a great many other people I would suspect. Do not take it upon yourself to decide what other people think or feel. For myself, any species which dies out because of man�s actions is to be regretted. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A rather obscure Bassoon Posted April 21, 2018 #11 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I'm with George Carlin on this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A rather obscure Bassoon Posted April 21, 2018 #12 Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Essan said: And whilst most people may not notice if there are no more hippos or saltwater crocodiles, smaller species are a different matter. Take away the birds and the bees ....... Then we will be no more but an Evolutionary ink splodge on the page of Planet Earth's book of life.Earth will go on recover and eventually be consumed by our Parent Star. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'mConvinced Posted April 22, 2018 #13 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I thought this might be a depressing thread given the title... ...then I read the replies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted April 22, 2018 #14 Share Posted April 22, 2018 ... and human meat will soon going to serve in restaurants across Asia. We're doing well! Let's cut some more forests to have more paper to wipe out fat asses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Monk Posted April 22, 2018 #15 Share Posted April 22, 2018 20 hours ago, Susanc241 said: Black Monk may speak for themself but not for me, nor a great many other people I would suspect. Do not take it upon yourself to decide what other people think or feel. For myself, any species which dies out because of man�s actions is to be regretted. I believe I speak for most people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Saru Posted April 22, 2018 Popular Post #16 Share Posted April 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Black Monk said: I believe I speak for most people. Fortunately, you don't: https://conservationtools.org/guides/111-national-poll-results#heading_26 Quote Over the years, voters have consistently expressed support for efforts to conserve wildlife. In a 2015 poll, 90% of voters said they support the Endangered Species Act, the federal law that protects species in danger of extinction, compared to 7% in opposition. Liberals (96%), moderates (94%), and conservatives (82%) from all regions of the country recognize the importance of safeguarding vulnerable wildlife.[12] In Gallup polls on environmental topics, people report that extinction of plant and animal species is one of the most concerning issues. In 2017, 72% said they worry “a great deal” or “fair amount” about extinction of plant and animal species. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted April 22, 2018 #17 Share Posted April 22, 2018 What about Orcas? They are fairly large and alot population and what about Elk? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Monk Posted April 22, 2018 #18 Share Posted April 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Saru said: Fortunately, you don't: https://conservationtools.org/guides/111-national-poll-results#heading_26 Americans only represent 4.4% of humanity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted April 22, 2018 #19 Share Posted April 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, Black Monk said: Americans only represent 4.4% of humanity. 86% of those surveyed in China supported a ban on ivory trading in an effort to save the elephants: https://www.worldwildlife.org/press-releases/consumers-in-china-widely-support-upcoming-ivory-ban-but-awareness-is-low-largest-ever-ivory-consumer-survey-finds# That's another 20% of the world's population. Need I continue ? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Monk Posted April 22, 2018 #20 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Saru said: 86% of those surveyed in China supported a ban on ivory trading in an effort to save the elephants: https://www.worldwildlife.org/press-releases/consumers-in-china-widely-support-upcoming-ivory-ban-but-awareness-is-low-largest-ever-ivory-consumer-survey-finds# That's another 20% of the world's population. Need I continue ? The Chinese are people who still keep animals in captivity to provide entertainment and keep dogs and cats in tiny little cages in markets. I don't think they've suddenly become as concerned about animal welfare as that biased poll makes them out to be. I rather suspect that if elephants suddenly disappeared completely, the vast majority of China's 1.4 billion inhabitants and the world's 7.6 billion inhabitants wouldn't give two hoots. Most people have far more pressing concerns. Edited April 22, 2018 by Black Monk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted April 22, 2018 #21 Share Posted April 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, Black Monk said: I rather suspect that if elephants suddenly disappeared completely, the vast majority of China's 1.4 billion inhabitants and the world's 7.6 billion inhabitants wouldn't give two hoots. What you mean is that you wouldn't give two hoots. I'm sure the vast majority of people will be conscious of such a loss, one way or another. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted April 22, 2018 #22 Share Posted April 22, 2018 7 hours ago, Black Monk said: I believe I speak for most people. As you say you "speak for most people" I'm sure that you must be able to supply a link to a study or poll that would confirm your assertion. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sameerr Posted April 23, 2018 #23 Share Posted April 23, 2018 That is sad. ( The question is, are we happy to suppose that our grandchildren may never be able to see an elephant except in a picture book ? ~ David Attenborough ) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySummerJob Posted May 9, 2018 #24 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I thought this was going to be a light-hearted topic saying that cows were evolving into something huge... However, this reality (like always) is just depressing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted May 9, 2018 #25 Share Posted May 9, 2018 On 21/04/2018 at 12:50 PM, Black Monk said: Why are they warning us about it? It's not a problem at all and most people don't care. I`m sorry but a warning is in order and you should be ashamed of yourself. I expect the largest animal I ever eat a burger from to come from a cloned mammoth not a gigantic bovine. I want my mammoth burger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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