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What happens when the most powerful organization on Earth decides morality is subjective?

More disturbing content has surfaced in the on-going James Damore vs. Google lawsuit. James Damore, of course, is the former Google employee who was fired for sending out a "sexist" (it wasn't,) internal email response to the company's diversity push. More importantly, the case has allowed Damore to reveal startling practices at Google including overtly anti-white and anti-Conservative censorship and hiring practices.

Check out the latest disturbing reveal:

Breitbart (if you have a CNN or MSNBC link, fire away.)

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Alon Altman, a senior software engineer at Google, pressured the company to sabotage President Trump’s Android phone, according to new evidence released via James Damore’s class-action lawsuit against the company.

Calling on the tech giant to use the “full economic force [of] Google for good”, Altman also suggested deleting the gmail accounts of Trump, his administration, and his aides for “abuse.”

Altman – who is still employed by the tech giant – also called on Google to blacklist “alt-right’ sites on the Google ad network (she falsely included Breitbart News in this category — an assertion refuted by a Harvard and M.I.T. study), and take down all “alt right videos” from YouTube. She also called on the tech giant to remove “neo-Nazi sites" such as ‘The Daily Stormer'” from the Google search index.

Whether they realize it or not, Google is attempting to shape the narrative. Instead of allowing the free flow of information, they want to censor the web in ways they see fit. "Freedom of speech" doesn't mean anything to a private organization who believes they are morally right. The real scary part is how long this could happen behind the scenes before anyone in the public became aware. 

Is there a way to resolve this? Should Google be subject to some kind of "fair use" Federal policy or would that be taking Government intervention too far?

What if the next wave of Google engineers are xenophobic? The power they hold is unparalleled and currently, it's going unchecked.

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I personally feel some people in Google want to become a political force and they are slowly laying foundations for their entry. They have choosen to side with the destructive left. 

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SO TORN!!!!! 

On the one hand its clearly a concerning issue. 

On the other I really really want to say - its capitalism, let the consumer decide for themselves and the economics will dictate the outcome.That's the answer we get when any other industry is caught being shady, why not apply it here? 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

SO TORN!!!!! 

On the one hand its clearly a concerning issue. 

On the other I really really want to say - its capitalism, let the consumer decide for themselves and the economics will dictate the outcome.That's the answer we get when any other industry is caught being shady, why not apply it here? 

The problem is that Google and other media giants fall outside the realm of the free market in some weird way. The model doesn't account for uber-companies that control the flow of information across the globe. They almost have too much power as the consumer most likely wont have all the knowledge to make an informed decision. Google is woven in to the fabric of the internet in many cases. Ergo, it's almost unavoidable in normal browsing.

This is a very complex problem that rides the line between free enterprise and morality.

 

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28 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

 

This is a very complex problem that rides the line between free enterprise and morality.

 

Actually, you solved the 'complex problem' when you said this: "What happens when the most powerful organization on Earth decides morality is subjective?". No tech company (or any other business) has the right to dictate morality. 

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Just now, Dark_Grey said:

The problem is that Google and other media giants fall outside the realm of the free market in some weird way. The model doesn't account for uber-companies that control the flow of information across the globe. They almost have too much power as the consumer most likely wont have all the knowledge to make an informed decision. Google is woven in to the fabric of the internet in many cases. Ergo, it's almost unavoidable in normal browsing.

This is a very complex problem that rides the line between free enterprise and morality.

So I debated whether to post this or not because overall I wholly agree that we need to establish some base parameters for these tech giants, but ...............

I know man and intellectually I agree, I have to confess though  the argument in bold is kind of hard to listen to from conservatives.

That exact same dynamic exists all over the place with many corporate interests from oil and gas to milk to pesticides.  Now that there is a concern that conservative proselytizing isn't popular enough to keep them on the airwaves that dynamic is a problem?

I do understand that we have to move beyond the us vs them mentality if we want to move forward but damn its kind of insulting. 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

So I debated whether to post this or not because overall I wholly agree that we need to establish some base parameters for these tech giants, but ...............

I know man and intellectually I agree, I have to confess though  the argument in bold is kind of hard to listen to from conservatives.

That exact same dynamic exists all over the place with many corporate interests from oil and gas to milk to pesticides.  Now that there is a concern that conservative proselytizing isn't popular enough to keep them on the airwaves that dynamic is a problem?

I do understand that we have to move beyond the us vs them mentality if we want to move forward but damn its kind of insulting. 

I am with you on all accounts here. In the past I was do-or-die with the free market but I've eased off. I am still very pro-free market because of the way it fosters innovation and competition but I am not entirely against Government regulation, either. The free market model doesn't account for corruption like lobbyist groups and other influencing powers, IMO. We need some over sight for the environment, intellectual property rights, universal freedoms such as Freedom of Speech, etc. Left alone, the market will mostly take care of itself as consumers control the tides with their purchasing power but no one saw this coming - a handful of young, insanely influential people controlling vast amounts of information both public and personal. 

They now have the power to literally control the President's digital life. What if they wanted to plant an email in his account or, as that psycho Alon Altman suggested, delete the accounts of his entire Administration? We are venturing in to new waters here and as usual, the technology is progressing way faster than our ability to amend the laws. 

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I find an internal contradiction with this - I agree that we don't want morality decided by corporations however, I also believe that Hate (left right or bang in the middle) should not be given air time by the same corporations.

Note - I have not looked at detail at the list given and I am not saying they do or don't fall into a hate category - I am making the more general point - hate (as distinct from criticism) from wherever should not be given oxygen.

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2 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

They now have the power to literally control the President's digital life. What if they wanted to plant an email in his account or, as that psycho Alon Altman suggested, delete the accounts of his entire Administration? We are venturing in to new waters here and as usual, the technology is progressing way faster than our ability to amend the laws. 

This aspect of it is terrifying and has the potential to literally alter reality. 

6 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

Left alone, the market will mostly take care of itself as consumers control the tides with their purchasing power but no one saw this coming - a handful of young, insanely influential people controlling vast amounts of information both public and personal. 

Im not trying to make any statement with this but the thought just popped in my mind I wonder if there were guys sitting around in the late 19th century having this same conversation about the robber barons as they bought up newspapers. 

 

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Just now, RAyMO said:

I find an internal contradiction with this - I agree that we don't want morality decided by corporations however, I also believe that Hate (left right or bang in the middle) should not be given air time by the same corporations.

Note - I have not looked at detail at the list given and I am not saying they do or don't fall into a hate category - I am making the more general point - hate (as distinct from criticism) from wherever should not be given oxygen.

which is also very subjective

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8 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

This aspect of it is terrifying and has the potential to literally alter reality. 

I try and think ahead. If the next President is a Democrat, Google could do a lot more to protect and aide said Administration than the FBI did with the last one. Imagine if Google was leveraged to root out political opponents dirty laundry? FBI investigations are one thing but Google IS information. They are the peak. I wonder if anyone in the organization stepped up to contest Mr. Altman's Orwellian ideas?

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Im not trying to make any statement with this but the thought just popped in my mind I wonder if there were guys sitting around in the late 19th century having this same conversation about the robber barons as they bought up newspapers. 

No doubt

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I think there's a much bigger picture to all this. Google are just one of the main protagonists in the monster that is the contemporary internet.

You can't browse anywhere these days without it being politicized.

Need examples? Check out movie reviews, music and gaming forums, etc. You'll see campaigns to get older movies banned as they don't conform to today's politically correct values. You'll see campaigns demanding that games allow players to create transgender characters, etc. to be "inclusive."

I'm a child of the golden age of computing. I've grown up with, worked in, and been educated in technology all my life. What started out looking like a bright future, is now starting to look like some sort of dystopian vision of control and manipulation.

It's dangerous to even have a quirky sense of humour these days :no:

'Nazi pug' video-maker has no regrets

"YouTube video-maker Mark Meechan, who trained his girlfriend's dog to give a "Nazi salute" which he said was part of a prank, has been fined £800 after being found guilty of committing a hate crime.

Mr Meechan spoke to the BBC's Chris Foxx before his sentencing and said he did not regret making the video."

The future's not bright... it's bloody scary!

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21 minutes ago, LV-426 said:

 

The future's not bright... it's bloody scary!

Nothing involving use of the internet (or cell phone calls) is ever private...nothing. Everyone really needs to be aware of this. 

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33 minutes ago, LV-426 said:

I think there's a much bigger picture to all this. Google are just one of the main protagonists in the monster that is the contemporary internet.

You can't browse anywhere these days without it being politicized.

Need examples? Check out movie reviews, music and gaming forums, etc. You'll see campaigns to get older movies banned as they don't conform to today's politically correct values. You'll see campaigns demanding that games allow players to create transgender characters, etc. to be "inclusive."

I'm a child of the golden age of computing. I've grown up with, worked in, and been educated in technology all my life. What started out looking like a bright future, is now starting to look like some sort of dystopian vision of control and manipulation.

It's dangerous to even have a quirky sense of humour these days :no:

I understand the need to be "progressive" and change the values of society to reflect the times. The problem I have with that is the bleeding edge progressives aren't replacing our culture with anything worthwhile. They are just tearing down the framework that has been proven over thousands of years and leaving it shambles for anyone and everyone to mold as they see fit. Tearing down history, language, the family, gender, Science..
There is no common set of values we can all believe in any more - there is only a political agenda. No wonder immigrants from Communist countries are upset at what we are becoming. 

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'Nazi pug' video-maker has no regrets

"YouTube video-maker Mark Meechan, who trained his girlfriend's dog to give a "Nazi salute" which he said was part of a prank, has been fined £800 after being found guilty of committing a hate crime.

Mr Meechan spoke to the BBC's Chris Foxx before his sentencing and said he did not regret making the video."

The future's not bright... it's bloody scary!

A comedian here in the People's Republic of Canada lost a lawsuit filed against him by two lesbians who were at his comedy show. That's right - you should be safe from offending speech at a comedy show. "Freedom of speech" does not extend in to the UK, Europe, Canada or any where else for that matter. It's truly an American ideal which is why I am so quick to defend it even though it's outside of my own country. Hold on to that Constitutional right like the precious gem that it is. 

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23 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

I understand the need to be "progressive" and change the values of society to reflect the times. The problem I have with that is the bleeding edge progressives aren't replacing our culture with anything worthwhile. They are just tearing down the framework that has been proven over thousands of years and leaving it shambles for anyone and everyone to mold as they see fit. Tearing down history, language, the family, gender, Science..
There is no common set of values we can all believe in any more - there is only a political agenda. No wonder immigrants from Communist countries are upset at what we are becoming. 

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This is not a random act. It is called "Cultural Marxism", and is is (or was) a deliberate attempt to weaken western societies... to weaken the "ties that bind".. making it easier for a communist revolution to happen. That was the intent almost 100 years ago. The Soviet Union has collapsed, but successive generations of their Useful Idiots have created a self-perpetuating hierarchy in academia that keeps indoctrinating the 'next generation' of professors. 

Hate your society. Hate your native religions. Hate the family. Hate everything that is "normal" in society. Hate your history. Hate your traditions. Hate everything that acts as a rallying force for stability and social cohesion. 

 

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21 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Hate your society. Hate your native religions. Hate the family. Hate everything that is "normal" in society. Hate your history. Hate your traditions. Hate everything that acts as a rallying force for stability and social cohesion. 

It can't be a coincidence that "normal" is being redefined. The very terms "man" and "woman" now are completely subjective which makes no sense in any capacity. Every modern sitcom glorifies the family hating, promiscuous single female while female happiness in general continues to decline. Almost like they are being sold a lie? Again, the framework that enabled Western society to create the great and free nations we all enjoy is being eroded a fantastic rate. Look at what the destruction of the family has done to the black community: fatherless homes/single mother homes upwards of 75% and their communities are rife with gang violence and a lack of ambition, despite all the handouts. Along that same line, 44% of Millennials now support a Socialist Government, depending on the polls. The spirit of independence and personal responsibility has been stripped away and instead we are given handouts and told that Government dependence is the only way.

Ask yourself: who stands to benefit from such a structure? The Elites want to take us back to the Feudal system. No middle class: just rich people and slaves poor people. Ergo, "Communism".

Ironically, everyone thought it was a joke when they saw Communist flags at anti-Free speech rallies last year. It wasn't a joke, it was a statement.

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28 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Hate your society. Hate your native religions. Hate the family. Hate everything that is "normal" in society. Hate your history. Hate your traditions. Hate everything that acts as a rallying force for stability and social cohesion. 

 

That sums it up very well.

And this awesome chicka goes into far more detail;

 

 

Now as for Google (Goolag) itself, this is nothing new for them. This is the gang that rolled right over and submitted to all censorship demands for the Chinese Govt, so that the Chinese people would not be contaminated by the Free Exchange of Ideas... for the sake of profits ... outwardly... but also because of ideological affiliation. 

The Left (I never call them "liberal" anymore, any group so opposed to Free Speech and tries to isolate it in little "zones") hate and fear anyone that isn't also on the Left, and are increasingly incapable of living in peace with anyone who's political affiliation is not the same as their own.

Honestly, have a look at that one, its worth your while.

 

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Wow, a topic everyone is agreeing on! Careful people the internet is watching, this unity will not be tolerated lol

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4 hours ago, Dark_Grey said:

The problem is that Google and other media giants fall outside the realm of the free market in some weird way. The model doesn't account for uber-companies that control the flow of information across the globe. They almost have too much power as the consumer most likely wont have all the knowledge to make an informed decision. Google is woven in to the fabric of the internet in many cases. Ergo, it's almost unavoidable in normal browsing.

This is a very complex problem that rides the line between free enterprise and morality.

 

Two words dudes.... “Weyland” and “Yutani”

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9 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Two words dudes.... “Weyland” and “Yutani”

That's....actually really accurate. Though fictional, they became global corporations that end up controlling damn near everything. Including the military(?)

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Google couldn't care less about "doing evil". They merely want to censor and control speech and thought, to promote their political views and social views, as authoritarians and totalitarians are wont to do. It's no coincidence that they have a cozy relationship with the communistic Chinese regime. Birds of a feather,....

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This very well could be the next stage of evolution in the realm of Political Correctness..

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13 hours ago, AnchorSteam said:

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Now as for Google (Goolag) itself, this is nothing new for them. This is the gang that rolled right over and submitted to all censorship demands for the Chinese Govt, so that the Chinese people would not be contaminated by the Free Exchange of Ideas... for the sake of profits ... outwardly... but also because of ideological affiliation. 

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To be fair to Google, it was either agree with the Chinese Government, or get locked out of China altogether ? I mean, what choice did Google have ? 

Google products Gmail etc) are also restricted in most of the Arab world, though not necessarily the search engine itself. 

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