Strange glowing objects flying at night UFO

[Relam]

9 hours ago, Merc14 said:

Most likely you were watching a satellite.  If it was the brightest thing in the night sky then it was the ISS.

Maybe russian iss ? im in Eu

[Merc14]

35 minutes ago, Relam said:

Maybe russian iss ? im in Eu

Umm?  Well the Russians are part of the ISS but the ISS orbits the entire planet so every country sees it.  Here is a NASA sponsored site that is safe and will inform you when the ISS passes overhead.  https://spotthestation.nasa.gov/

Enjoy, it is an awe inspiring to see and visible even in a brightly lit city.

Edited September 5, 2018 by Merc14

[stereologist]

On 9/4/2018 at 12:21 PM, Erno86 said:

There are two Erno86's on the web --- One lives in Europe...and myself, where I live on the outskirts of Baltimore City, Maryland.

The possible foo fighter that I saw one night in November of 1976, approx 40 miles west of Washington D.C. --- in it's bluish-white high power phase: approx. big as a jet airliner, going at approx. 17,000 mph (?) about 2 miles away --- And the possible foo fighter (one minute later after I saw the bluish-white light) --- A fiery reddish-orange UFO approx. 700 feet in diameter, with no fiery tail...about 1 mile away, appearing just just below the low cloud cover, making a slow (30 mph?) perpendicular descent to Earth; just beyond the mountain range --- while lighting up the mountain valley in front of us. It consisted of a plasma (fusion plasma fuel source?) of some kind, with flames licking all around the spherical object, swirling plasma currents on the surface. It looked like a miniature Sun, with a possible intelligent flying machine safely encased inside it.  

Where do you get these numbers? You claim big as a jetliner. You claim 17,000mph. You claim 2 miles away.

You then suggest something 700 feet in diameter about a mile away.

1. You can't reliably tell distance.

2. Distance and size can't be determined.

3. Meteors move at 17,000 mph  in the rarefied upper atmosphere.

I don't believe any of these numbers. I don't believe any of explanation you give for your experience such as flames licking all around or possible whatever inside.

[Erno86]

12 hours ago, stereologist said:

Where do you get these numbers? You claim big as a jetliner. You claim 17,000mph. You claim 2 miles away.

You then suggest something 700 feet in diameter about a mile away.

1. You can't reliably tell distance.

2. Distance and size can't be determined.

3. Meteors move at 17,000 mph  in the rarefied upper atmosphere.

I don't believe any of these numbers. I don't believe any of explanation you give for your experience such as flames licking all around or possible whatever inside.

Hey...just ballpark estimates --- How can I explain anything about my foo-fighter sighting, if I don't give you a approximate ball park estimate on speed, distance and my eyewitness account? You can believe what you want to believe...but my U.F.O. sighting is backed up by similar foo fighter sightings as well.

For example: "The Report On Unidentified Flying Objects - by Edward J. Ruppelt - 1956 -  Especially Chapter 4

If anybody is interested...here's Ruppelt's free book on the web:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/rufo/index.htm

Edited September 6, 2018 by Erno86
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[stereologist]

59 minutes ago, Erno86 said:

Hey...just ballpark estimates --- How can I explain anything about my foo-fighter sighting, if I don't give you a approximate ball park estimate on speed, distance and my eyewitness account? You can believe what you want to believe...but my U.F.O. sighting is backed up by similar foo fighter sightings as well.

For example: "The Report On Unidentified Flying Objects - by Edward J. Ruppelt - 1956 -  Especially Chapter 4

If anybody is interested...here's Ruppelt's free book on the web:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/rufo/index.htm

It simply is not possible to guess distances and sizes. You have no references to use to make those guesses.

Your speed and distance make no sense at all. At 17,000 mph the object travels approximately 5 miles a second. You claim as big as a jetliner yet it would allow you a tiny fraction of a second to determine its size. 

Do you see how nonsensical your numbers are? 

Probably not. If the plane were at 10,000 feet it would  be at cruising altitude in 1 second and gone the next. A speed of 17,000 mph is around 25,000 feet per second.

The chapter 4 you mention covers green fireballs. Green is a color associated with nickel rich fireballs.

https://www.amsmeteors.org/fireballs/faqf/

Quote

The dominant composition of a meteoroid can play an important part in the observed colors of a fireball, with certain elements displaying signature colors when vaporized. For example, sodium produces a bright yellow color, nickel shows as green, and magnesium as blue-white.

Here is a source suggesting it is due to ionization of oxygen.

https://www.livescience.com/9030-mystery-green-fireball-ufos-solved.html

The green fireball issue has been studied and much more is known today that the 1956 report you linked to.

[Erno86]

14 hours ago, stereologist said:

Where do you get these numbers? You claim big as a jetliner. You claim 17,000mph. You claim 2 miles away.

You then suggest something 700 feet in diameter about a mile away.

1. You can't reliably tell distance.

2. Distance and size can't be determined.

3. Meteors move at 17,000 mph  in the rarefied upper atmosphere.

I don't believe any of these numbers. I don't believe any of explanation you give for your experience such as flames licking all around or possible whatever inside.

Hey...just ballpark estimates --- How can I explain anything about my foo-fighter sighting, if I don't give you a ball park estimate on speed, distance and my eyewitness account? You can believe what you want to believe...but my U.F.O. sighting is backed up by similar foo fighter sightings as well.

For example: "The Report On Unidentified Flying Objects - by Edward J. Ruppelt  Especially Chapter 4

1 hour ago, stereologist said:

It simply is not possible to guess distances and sizes. You have no references to use to make those guesses.

Your speed and distance make no sense at all. At 17,000 mph the object travels approximately 5 miles a second. You claim as big as a jetliner yet it would allow you a tiny fraction of a second to determine its size. 

Do you see how nonsensical your numbers are? 

Probably not. If the plane were at 10,000 feet it would  be at cruising altitude in 1 second and gone the next. A speed of 17,000 mph is around 25,000 feet per second.

The chapter 4 you mention covers green fireballs. Green is a color associated with nickel rich fireballs.

https://www.amsmeteors.org/fireballs/faqf/

Here is a source suggesting it is due to ionization of oxygen.

https://www.livescience.com/9030-mystery-green-fireball-ufos-solved.html

The green fireball issue has been studied and much more is known today that the 1956 report you linked to.

"Still, at this stage, it's hard to shake the sense that equating the green fireballs with ball lighting is tantamount to explaining a mystery with another mystery."

"Why Mysterious Green Fireballs Worried The U.S. Government in 1948"

http://www.history.com/news/ufos-green-fireballs-nuclear-facilities-new-mexico

 

Edited September 6, 2018 by Erno86
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[toast]

2 hours ago, Erno86 said:

Hey...just ballpark estimates

No, even not that, dude.

[Erno86]

Here's another mysterious fireball report from NUFORC: Pittsburgh, Pa. - 7/29/2018

http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/142/S142460.html

Air Force Truism: "The only time you have too much gas is when you are on fire."

 

Edited September 6, 2018 by Erno86
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[stereologist]

3 hours ago, Erno86 said:

Hey...just ballpark estimates --- How can I explain anything about my foo-fighter sighting, if I don't give you a ball park estimate on speed, distance and my eyewitness account? You can believe what you want to believe...but my U.F.O. sighting is backed up by similar foo fighter sightings as well.

For example: "The Report On Unidentified Flying Objects - by Edward J. Ruppelt  Especially Chapter 4

"Still, at this stage, it's hard to shake the sense that equating the green fireballs with ball lighting is tantamount to explaining a mystery with another mystery."

"Why Mysterious Green Fireballs Worried The U.S. Government in 1948"

http://www.history.com/news/ufos-green-fireballs-nuclear-facilities-new-mexico

 

They are not ballpark estimates. They are far fetched values. They are made up numbers that make no sense.  You are reporting values that are impossible for you to know or estimate. 

Your sighting is not necessarily backed up by other sightings. That too is wishful thinking on your part. You want there to be corroboration.

The Ruppelt report is old. There is much known since then. It is a common practice of the fringe to fall back on outdated material to support their cause. Green fireballs are not unusual. I've seen one. It could not have been the same as the ones from Ruppelt report since the one I saw was falling space debris. 

 

[stereologist]

On 9/6/2018 at 1:39 PM, Erno86 said:

Here's another mysterious fireball report from NUFORC: Pittsburgh, Pa. - 7/29/2018

http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/142/S142460.html

Air Force Truism: "The only time you have too much gas is when you are on fire."

 

People see a fireball and they report it? Why not report it to the AMS, the American Meteor Society?

There are thousands of fireballs a day. Yes, thousands a day. People report very few of them because they are not outside. Most fireballs fall over oceans and other sparsely populated areas. They also fall during daylight hours as well as dark times.

The report claims that the object was at 10,000 feet. They can't tell the elevation. Simply not possible. There is no frame of reference. People make this mistake time and time again. They do not provide a speed. They do not provide a duration for the observation. 

I mentioned seeing a green fireball. It lasted for seconds, not a small fraction of a second. That suggests a slow moving object.