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Israel threatens to assassinate Assad

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Assad would be assassinated, Israeli minister hints, if he lets Iran attack from Syria: ‘His blood would be forfeit’

JERUSALEM — Israel could respond to any Iranian attack on it from Syria by toppling Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s government, an Israeli security cabinet minister said on Monday, hinting that Assad himself may be targeted for assassination.

Israel and Iran have traded blows over Syria since February, stirring concern that major escalation could be looming ahead of next week’s review decision by U.S. President Donald Trump on the 2015 international nuclear deal with Tehran.

http://nationalpost.com/news/world/an-israeli-minister-hints-that-assad-could-be-assassinated-over-any-iranian-attacks-on-israel-from-syria

See also: http://www.middleeasteye.net/bashar-al-assad-may-assasinated-says-minister-yuval-steinitz-iran-stays-syria

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seanjo

And it would serve him right.

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Steinitz says he isn't quoting official Israeli policy but I can't imagine he's their version of John Kerry.  Running his mouth as though he has authority to make anything happen within the government probably is frowned upon in Israel under such circumstances.  I've been saying this was coming for a while now, even started a thread in preparation.  It's possible that Israel is trying to let Putin know, publicly, that all his efforts to arrange a little fiefdom in Syria are at risk unless they curb Suleimani's ambitions, and quickly.  Israeli media are going wall to wall with warnings that a missile barrage is to be expected at any time up in the Golan area at an IDF military site.  If true, maybe Suleimani thinks that Israel is willing to "play fair" and absorb a strike on their military in exchange for the strikes Israel launched on Iran's.  I'm thinking that Israel is sending the message to anyone that will listen that that bet will be a sure loser.  IF it starts, the question is, how far will it escalate.  I'm really not worried about Iran's moves in Syria.  Putin's decisions are the only ones that are potentially dangerous.  If he shoots down any IAF aircraft and especially if aircrews are lost, he's going to lose every AA asset in Syria in short order.  The Iranians will simply be deracinated.  Come to think of it, Suleimani is in a tight spot.  There's a lot of risks and very little potential reward in his choices these days.  I think he pushed too far, too fast.

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Brother_Spirit
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17 hours ago, seanjo said:

And it would serve him right.

On which ground do you suppose that the assassination of the President of a sovereign state is in any way justified?

Especially since Israel, a democratic country, is believed to have higher moral values and ethical standards than some of her neighbors.

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8 hours ago, Clockwork_Spirit said:

On which ground do you suppose that the assassination of the President of a sovereign state is in any way justified?

Especially since Israel, a democratic country, is believed to have higher moral values and ethical standards than some of her neighbors.

The Iranians are determined to build a military power in Syria which will be subject to their authority, and Israel is determined to prevent it. 

The main problem stems not only from a complete conflict of interest between Israel and Iran, but from an identical yet clashing determination of the two sides: The Iranians are determined to build a military power in Syria which will be subject to their authority, and Israel is determined to prevent it. Given that there doesn’t seem to be an outline at the moment that would satisfy both sides, we are likely headed towards further conflicts.

 

The Israeli government must be commended for deciding to take short-term risks this time to prevent a strategic deterioration in the future. This kind of conduct is untypical, and therefore laudable. Moreover, this is the first time Israel works to militarily prevent its neighbors from building conventional power.

 

The biggest direct threat to Israel at the moment is neither the Syrian threat nor the Iranian threat. The most significant threat to Israel is tens of thousands of Hezbollah rockets. Threatening this organization won’t prevent it from joining the northern conflict. Rather, Israel must make it clear that rockets launched from Lebanon will lead to a full war between Israel and Lebanon. As no one wants to see Lebanon destroyed today—neither Syria and Iran nor Saudi Arabia, France, the US, the Lebanese and even Hezbollah—this message must be stressed and intensified.

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5114884,00.html

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5 hours ago, Ellapennella said:

As no one wants to see Lebanon destroyed today

This is absolutely true.  If Hizballah begins to rain accurate missiles onto Israeli communities or infrastructure, south Lebanon will become a moonscape.  I really don't think the chattering classes of so-called pundits really have an appreciation for what the IDF is capable of.

ETA: Just for the record, I do not advocate for the recognized leaders of countries to be assassinated.  When governments decide to start settling differences in this way it will only lead to chaos.  Assad is no doubt worthy of his end being sooner, rather than later but he isn't worth setting such a precedent.  I believe that this less than fully sanctioned comment was a warning to Putin that he needs to work with Israel in controlling Iran.

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A rather obscure Bassoon
18 hours ago, Clockwork_Spirit said:

On which ground do you suppose that the assassination of the President of a sovereign state is in any way justified?

Especially since Israel, a democratic country, is believed to have higher moral values and ethical standards than some of her neighbors.

Isreal is not new to Assassination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_assassinations

Don't be too quick to put them on too much of a high moral ground.

 

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However, dealing with other's blatant immorality seems a strong point on the part of Israel.

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Since when, offer one single instance, has an Israeli used a suicide vest to purposely kill innocents and children?

 

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12 minutes ago, pallidin said:

Since when, offer one single instance, has an Israeli used a suicide vest to purposely kill innocents and children?

 

Did Assad or any of his forces and allies (including Iran) used such a device on the battlefield?

I do not think so.

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pallidin
9 minutes ago, Brother_Spirit said:

Did Assad or any of his forces and allies (including Iran) used such a device on the battlefield?

I do not think so.

Of course, silly. They are terrorists, and support terrorist groups and ideology.

Assad killed his own people with chemical weapons.

Iran directly supports terror activity, including suicide bombers via the groups Iran condones and financially supports.

Ask the international community for specific proofs, not me.

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pallidin

Iran is a theocracy of radical Islam.

Radical Islam uses suicide vests.

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Iran is the NUMBER 1 state sponsor of worldwide terrorism.

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Iran"s government openly says "Death to Israel, Death to America"

If that doesn't say everything about their twisted ideology and general sanity, I don't know what does.

Does Russia or China say "Death to America" in open forum? No, but Iran does, repeatedly.

Iran's government is sick. Sharia-based, psychotic and barbaric.

The innocent citizens of Iran, though, I give a pass.

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God bless Trump for getting "tuff" on Iran.

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Syrian leader is reportedly hiding-out in a bunker in Russia. https://www.************/news/6041454/syria-assad-hiding-russian-bunker-us-airstrikes/ At the least, that guy is a true piece of shat from all the things I read and should definitely be assassinated.

Iran fired rockets at Israel armed forces in Syria apparently in response to Israel strike on missile sites a bit earlier. 15 Iranians died (not clear what their titles were) and 2 Syrian civilian's died in the exchange from what i read in the following: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/iranian-forces-in-syria-fire-20-rockets-at-israeli-army-outposts-on-golan-heights-1.6073938 Iran is claiming it is some type of revenge for those Iranian's deaths. But I thought Iran imprison their civilians for pretty much no reason - never to be heard of again. So maybe those deaths is an excuse to further their "agenda."  I remember when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad gave a speech in-front of super many Iranians and the US reported he stated Israel must be wiped off the face of the earth, back in 2008 i think. Ahmadinejad responded denying that those words were said and poor translation was to blame. Well, looking into it, it seems that the proper statement is that Israel will collapse https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/did-ahmadinejad-really-say-israel-should-be-wiped-off-the-map/2011/10/04/gIQABJIKML_blog.html?utm_term=.4c8f050066dc So is there a true statement where the Iranian regime wants all Jews murdered?

Regardless, Iran seems to be working against individual prosperity (holding their own civilians hostage in many ways), for the sake of military strength I guess, and their legal structure seems very poor. So if they are wanting to play war games then why can't we just kill the Iranian ground force generals? Wouldn't that be good enough? I mean, this regime might still be on their high horse on overthrowing the Shaw, American backed leader. So maybe they think they can bring the U.S. down because they think they are endowed by a higher-power for driving out one little skinny guy out of his house (the Shaw guy)... :rolleyes::lol: Anyway, generals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_two-star_generals_since_1979

Top government officials, such as a president, to target and execute a citizen for a political agenda, or whatever, is a good enough reason to go in and strike where necessary... right Trump??!!!!! I'm looking for confirmation from you on this.  For a person to have lived nothing but a life that never deviated from human compassion and right, to be taken advantage of like that, for what! You thought I became this way because of you or something, that you were the chosen president?! I'm a U.S. citizen, all because I am this way (like being African American or Korean... dare I say "Alien"), different, you thought you had the right to kill me!!! I saw you bro!!! You need to facking start talking.<_<<_< Do you think it felt good to be all good and be executed like that. No, it does not feel good to have done everything right and have my life taken like that. And guess what, back at square one jackass, and now moving forward in a new light. Don't facking deny what you did to me last month or so ago. Just tell me what game you were playing and I might forgive you. I suspect the game you were playing was ultimate power because there was no other assignments at that time - sneaky fack. Pft. Faking idiot. Talk bro. I liked you, I really did. But I'm mad at you now. Plus, why the fack were you smiling when you executed me? Were you ejaculating while you did it? I'm sick of this bull****. I'll take your Mar a Lago for my pain and suffering, jerk, or something equivalent or maybe hook me up with that porn star you had. This time we can share our ejaculate together and we can become closer than ever, then in a since we would both be smiling over the same thing because I surely was not smiling the first time. You draw up the agreement and I'll take a good look at it. Or you can slide it under my "electronic door" if it makes you feel better.

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2 hours ago, Inversion5 said:

...I'm a U.S. citizen,...you did to me last month or so ago...

Born and fully raised U.S. citizen... +/- 30 days ago you did it to me...

Lastly, this is the 2nd time I know of that you did it to me, thinking you can get an upper-hand on me and your 3rd attempt failed. You made me go back to my mother's womb twice you prick, living that embattled life all over again, watching the only person that cared about me die all over again. Luckily I found my future me this time and did not have to experience that crap a third time. To me at this point, you are no better than Russia's and Iran's leaders. Why don't you and your children go live in a village in the jungle where you deserve to be right now... with the monkeys. Keep up the "I support Israel to defend itself", especially with their call to assassinate, because I'm sure you are good at the assassinating part...your own facking citizens. So pathetic when a monkey finds a shiny toy and uses it against the evolved monkey that built the damn thing in the first place. I withdraw the last offer and now want EVERYTHING you own for the torture you put me through. Ugh, I can not get the image of you smiling out of my head. Just why, why? The only logical thing is to get an upper edge on me, to get what you really wanted... a cataclysmic explosion with no trace of where it came from and what mechanism that caused it. Too bad this bomb has a brain, one smarter than yours mister "billionaire" daddy's boy. If I had your dad, I would of made way more money than you and would of never failed at one entrepreneurial venture. Suck a big one you donkey. Negotiate this (*middle finger*). Talk you puppet. Full disclosure now on the entire program with all of the hard evidence (clones, videos, documents... anyone can name it, they get it), because I know your family is not willing to give up their luxury. And I really don't care for "your" luxury. Don't forget to put on your monkey diaper before bedtime. And for the person that wants to take care of my business for me, don't, you don't have the skill to do it. You know who you are. That night where you wanted me to give you my "power", with the method you chose, and I said I did... I lied. Sorry... boo-hoo. Run to your mother mommy's boy. I will never, and neither will you, destroy San Diego, California because of your homophobia. You are more delusional than me. :lol:

Your move Donald Duck (minus the D in Duck, replace with an F), it better not be the wrong one. I can be a forgiver.

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kartikg
4 hours ago, pallidin said:

Iran is the NUMBER 1 state sponsor of worldwide terrorism.

I highly doubt that, they are a shia majority state, there aren't so many shia terrorists groups active as sunni ones. moreover I doubt sunnies will be accepting money and doing the work for shia regime. 

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1 hour ago, Inversion5 said:

Born and fully raised U.S. citizen... +/- 30 days ago you did it to me...

Lastly, this is the 2nd time I know of that you did it to me, thinking you can get an upper-hand on me and your 3rd attempt failed. You made me go back to my mother's womb twice you prick, living that embattled life all over again, watching the only person that cared about me die all over again. Luckily I found my future me this time and did not have to experience that crap a third time. To me at this point, you are no better than Russia's and Iran's leaders. Why don't you and your children go live in a village in the jungle where you deserve to be right now... with the monkeys. Keep up the "I support Israel to defend itself", especially with their call to assassinate, because I'm sure you are good at the assassinating part...your own facking citizens. So pathetic when a monkey finds a shiny toy and uses it against the evolved monkey that built the damn thing in the first place. I withdraw the last offer and now want EVERYTHING you own for the torture you put me through. Ugh, I can not get the image of you smiling out of my head. Just why, why? The only logical thing is to get an upper edge on me, to get what you really wanted... a cataclysmic explosion with no trace of where it came from and what mechanism that caused it. Too bad this bomb has a brain, one smarter than yours mister "billionaire" daddy's boy. If I had your dad, I would of made way more money than you and would of never failed at one entrepreneurial venture. Suck a big one you donkey. Negotiate this (*middle finger*). Talk you puppet. Full disclosure now on the entire program with all of the hard evidence (clones, videos, documents... anyone can name it, they get it), because I know your family is not willing to give up their luxury. And I really don't care for "your" luxury. Don't forget to put on your monkey diaper before bedtime. And for the person that wants to take care of my business for me, don't, you don't have the skill to do it. You know who you are. That night where you wanted me to give you my "power", with the method you chose, and I said I did... I lied. Sorry... boo-hoo. Run to your mother mommy's boy. I will never, and neither will you, destroy San Diego, California because of your homophobia. You are more delusional than me. :lol:

Your move Donald Duck (minus the D in Duck, replace with an F), it better not be the wrong one. I can be a forgiver.

My head hurts...

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Essan
6 hours ago, pallidin said:

Iran is the NUMBER 1 state sponsor of worldwide terrorism.

Apart from the USA, Russia, Saudi Arabia and Qatar ;) 

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Jon the frog
7 hours ago, pallidin said:

Since when, offer one single instance, has an Israeli used a suicide vest to purposely kill innocents and children?

 

Don't need to... they use white phosphorus artillery bombardment !

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13 hours ago, Inversion5 said:

...destroy San Diego, California...

I meant San Francisco. I guess I was tired enough to mess that up.

 

11 hours ago, and then said:

My head hurts...

:lol: As the military say, "eyes only" because if not, your head will hurt. ;)

 

10 hours ago, Essan said:

Apart from the USA, Russia, Saudi Arabia and Qatar ;) 

In regards to the USA, ask the elder African Americans the terrorism they endured, and ask the Native Americans, and ask the countries the U.S. invaded by way of CIA operations to topple heads of state to spread corporations to advance wealth and power to the 1% business men, which includes military contracts; "democracy" is most likely a bi-product or an unintended affect - not the main agenda or even the agenda at all. But If "they" truly wanted to have made prosperity throughout the world, then cramming it down peoples throats was not such a great idea. Instead, they should of given them the blueprint to prop up a business that is centered around the contry's resources and give a percentage to the U.S. for giving them the blueprint in the first place. No, but they had to be greedy as fack. But hey, I live in a time where it has already been said and done for the most part. But anyway, cars and pharmaceuticals kill WAY more people than a "terrorist", that most likely has sought revenge because of the greedy 1%'ers. So I understand why they are "terrorists". The problem is they need to go after the "1%", not facking innocent people. Damn, these dumb ass "1%'ers" are giving them their address of where they work all day. It is not to hard to find them. Also, in regards to military contracts, I'm sure it is not to hard to find those people also. I don't blame car companies but I surely blame pharmaceutical companies (CEO's and board of directors) and military arms companies for knowing that they are murdering people, including children, like babies, and all because they want to look the other way does not make it right, and I'm sure every time they get their direct deposit, they smile with all the money they receive from all "their hard work" :rolleyes:, which helps them even more turn a blind eye. Plus, pharmaceutical companies are trying to stomp out legalizing marijuana to continue their opioid disbursements and military support of cocaine fields abroad. Sickos.

All this middle eastern battles is because of the quagmire affect (not the Family Guy quagmire), but the situation that seems to have started with Israel taking over the land and they took it over in a technicality of legal jargon and sly semantics, which seems to be an insult to human respect and right to dwell in peace without an outside hostile force, which became Israel. Again, all for military strategy to propel the 1% into more money and power.  Fast forward to 2018, still in a quagmire and things have changed to where it does not matter anymore who is right and wrong. Innocent people matter. We could be very well killing a person that can change the world if given the right support, instead we give them death. Now "we" have created this "terrorism monster" and are afraid they will acquire a nuclear weapon... I WONDER WHY, facking idiots. This crap needs to end now because as I have been informed, they do not need a missile or a nuclear warhead to do a Hiroshima type explosion, they just need the schematics of a suitcase sized nuclear bomb and given that there has not been true inspections or oversight in Iran since, technically forever, even with that now withdrawn nuclear agreement, they could very well have it. I guess maybe that is why Israel is shooting children if they come close to their stupid little fences. Israel now reminds me of the movie World War Z; all Palestinians are zombies to them. One day, all those million people might very well run over there at the same time and even strategize with Palestinians currently living in Israel and topple the head of state there, easily. Another reason why to shoot children that come close to their fences; to prevent an uprising. This also now reminds me of Kanye West when he stated slavery was a choice. I wonder if Palestinians have a choice to continue living under the thumb of Israel. Funny how Israel never wants to acknowledge or even hint at any sort of treatment against Palestinians. Some true mental disconnect, guilt turned into ignorance and overly defensive behavior perhaps.

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On 5/9/2018 at 4:27 PM, A rather obscure Bassoon said:

Isreal is not new to Assassination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_assassinations

Don't be too quick to put them on too much of a high moral ground.

 

"If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first.

When people feel justified in slaughtering you and your children for the offense of breathing, they deserve no quarter and no mercy.

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More warnings of the Bible Prophecies of the middle east  :(

 

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6 hours ago, and then said:

"If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first.

When people feel justified in slaughtering you and your children for the offense of breathing, they deserve no quarter and no mercy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

I do not agree innocent people should die. You can call it whatever you want, collateral, I call it murder. And yes, SOME Palestenians have murdered also, but you just don't clump everyone together. You have to know every single persons true intentions or personally know the person to where you could suspect their true intentions (like someone taking a gun out on you, in all the strict since, not generalizing to add more than one person, so you do not know if they will really pull the trigger but it is safe to say they will, so yeah, kill them first) - doesn't work the same with a time traveler, because what you may be doing most of the time is slipping on your own banana peel, keep that in mind, wink wink. It is also like the U.S. killing any Mexican that tries to cross the border because we have proof that SOME came here and raped, murdered and sold drugs. Because SOME may have actually been escaping death. Come on my fellow American sickos! Let us bomb a facking neighborhood in Mexico and shoot anyone that tries to cross the border. COME the FACK ON! Let us be like Israel and defend ourselves!:rolleyes: The only difference is that mostly Israeli army personnel die (because it is their job to die if they suck or just have bad luck) and almost nothing but innocent woman, children (babies included) and men die (and the stats are in the thousands of Palestinians versus a few dozen Israeli military guys). Also, Israel has missing data on many of the thier kills. Nazi hid their kill numbers also. What is that superhero movie saying/line: "you might live long enough to see yourself become the Villain" and then hide the data :huh: People, get control of your reptilian brain already (fight, flight or freeze). The best thing is to freeze, then think and have compassion. Especially Israel. 

However, I agree the tall skinny ugly as shat Syrian president should get assassinated. Maybe he already has :lol:

6 hours ago, docyabut2 said:

More warnings of the Bible Prophecies of the middle east  :(

Maybe "prophecy" lies within Iran for Palestine, but that is a big maybe because I have not read/looked into anything indicating they back Palestine to "set them free", only that they opposed land grabs by Israel. However, I would imagine many Palestinians welcome attacks on Israel, perhaps because of their history of land grabs and slaughters like Deir Yassin massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre Not to mention more serious military attacks within the last 20 years against Palestinians that have been reported by respected journalist that went to Palestine during such slaughters. You can roll your eyes all you want many people in Israel, because almost all the world knows what ugliness you have truly become. I support Palestine more than Israel (nobody innocent should die though, only the individuals in the military personnel that want to play the killing game) because of the unfair death ratio of Israel vs. Palestine. And they justify it by pointing to a paper with black ink that states they can take pretty much any force they want to get rid of the threat. The Nazi's had a similar paper with black ink counting all Jews and establishing they all must die. Israel has not taken it to that extreme but the similarities are there.

But this is year 2018 and Israel has propped up quite a presence and everyone needs to quit it, because they won. I see Palestinians severally oppressed from the start and if I were them, I would attempt a CIA style head of state replacement. Can you imagine a Palestinian running Israel, with their nukes? :lol: Maybe to the effect of how Israel is currently running Palestine. I hope the new Palestinian/Israeli president would be forgiving and all would live in peace. I hope they wouldn't take revenge on the world for not helping the Palestinian slaughter of the past decades. If they did, we all might have deserved it. Kind of reminds me of how African Americans in the U.S. are still being oppressed based on bias/skin color and poverty. Last time I went to jail to help someone out, it seriously was nothing but hundreds and hundreds of young African Americans in those cells and one Caucasian guy. If imprisonment were fair, it would be an equal amount of all races.

The prison system is mostly a business of quota that needs to be met to enlarge someones money pockets while sucking funds from taxpayers - like everything else on this disgraceful planet. We are still living in ancient times people (even though we dress in well knitted clothes and driving shiny metal objects and watching more advanced bonfires called television) and everyone seems to still feel helpless. Pathetic, and the entire world should feel embarrassed. Tic toc... The world will end sooner than you think (for the good or bad). Maybe everyone needs a little/lot of shock and a super mind-bending experience to get outside their comfort zone. Hmmmm... What shall it be?.... Oh I know, a lot a bit of true knowledge from other dimensions. I can't wait!!! Tic toc... :innocent::alien::whistle::ph34r: Disclose the truth Trump... the REAL truth about reality. Again, why the hell did you smile when you executed me? Because you thought you could go all the way with the "ultra bomb" Grant almost made me build? And because I would not listen? Yeah, that's what I thought. Punk. Your move Cheeto man. Disclose it all because I'm tired of this bull****. Your military facks can eat shat instead of money. I will take care of my own business, like I said, no assistance needed. Just waiting on you bro or maybe everyone that has kept my secret should come out all at once backed with their scientific data/proof without official approval...? Just maybe. I don't mind sharing all my embarrassing moments. Its not like anyone on this planet does not have something embarrassing to reveal. Because I've seen them all already. :lol:B)  I'm out. I will see about 7 billion of you soon. Well, those who gets the news. It might take a while for jungle people to get it, but they eventually will.

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