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Were you born this way?  Or did it come by degrees?

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third_eye
7 hours ago, and then said:

"If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first.

When people feel justified in slaughtering you and your children for the offense of breathing, they deserve no quarter and no mercy.

You sound exactly like Hibatullah Akhundzada there ...

 

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RoofGardener
1 hour ago, third_eye said:

You sound exactly like Hibatullah Akhundzada there ...

Not really. You would have to modify the statement to become something like..... 

"If someone doesn't believe in OUR God, then rise against him and kill him first.

When people feel justified in disbelieving you and your children for the offense of being violent and forcing them to convert, they deserve no quarter and no mercy".

:P 

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1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

Not really. You would have to modify the statement to become something like..... 

"If someone doesn't believe in OUR God, then rise against him and kill him first.

When people feel justified in disbelieving you and your children for the offense of being violent and forcing them to convert, they deserve no quarter and no mercy".

:P 

Yes really, your modifications made you sound like a Cartoon Network multi neon colored villain ...

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Just now, third_eye said:

Yes really, your modifications made you sound like a Cartoon Network multi neon colored villain ...

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Indeed Third_eye.. indeed. 

And also like a senior Taliban commander :) 

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Just now, RoofGardener said:

Indeed Third_eye.. indeed. 

And also like a senior Taliban commander :) 

Heads up ... Taliban Leaders are never. and I can stress here never , 'religious'

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16 minutes ago, third_eye said:

Heads up ... Taliban Leaders are never. and I can stress here never , 'religious'

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OK.. I'l bite.. what do you mean by that ? In what way are the leaders of a religion-based movement NOT religious ? That seems highly improbable. 

Well.. with the exception of the Church of England perhaps ? :P 

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2 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

OK.. I'l bight.. what do you mean by that ? In what way are the leaders of a religion-based movement NOT religious ? That seems highly improbable. 

If the carpet doesn't fit no point using a blanket ... I think you are confusing religious and fanatical

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2 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Well.. with the exception of the Church of England perhaps ? :P 

Ya gotta ask good ol' Henry the eighth about that one ...

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5 minutes ago, third_eye said:

If the carpet doesn't fit no point using a blanket ... I think you are confusing religious and fanatical

Umm... that is somewhat less than entirely helpful :P 

OK, you mentioned Hibatullah Akhundzada. He is head of the Taliban. He is an Ulema - an Islamic Religious Scholar, and has been bestowed the honorific "Mawlawi". He was - at one stage - in charge of a Madrassa, as well as being the primary author of Fatwa's issued by the Taliban. He was then the Chief Justice at the Afghanistan Sharia Courts, and prior to that he was in the Ministry for Promoting Virtue and Punishing Vice - an organisation trained and funded by Saudi Arabia; not a nation renown for religious backsliding.  

And you're proposing that this person was not religious ? 

 

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If there is one thing that I've learned from years of playing D&D is that you never openly announce what your plans are. There will always be someone there to foil them.

If Israel is going to assassinate Assaud, then he should just turn up dead one day... No warning, no evidence... just a dead body.

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1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

Umm... that is somewhat less than entirely helpful :P 

Which is the point, it was not designed to be helpful, and neither is your blanket generalizing of the points in this regards.

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1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

OK, you mentioned Hibatullah Akhundzada. He is head of the Taliban. He is an Ulema - an Islamic Religious Scholar, and has been bestowed the honorific "Mawlawi". He was - at one stage - in charge of a Madrassa, as well as being the primary author of Fatwa's issued by the Taliban. He was then the Chief Justice at the Afghanistan Sharia Courts, and prior to that he was in the Ministry for Promoting Virtue and Punishing Vice - an organisation trained and funded by Saudi Arabia; not a nation renown for religious backsliding.  

Scholar, political head, Judicial Chief, Minister, School Headmaster ...

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1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

And you're proposing that this person was not religious ? 

 

What is it about all those honorifics by default garners attributes for anybody as 'religious' ? If anything it just designates authority and assigns jurisdiction, being 'religious' has nothing to do with all that as well as being all that has nothing to do with being religious ...  at least not in the manner that you are alleging it as so.

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17 minutes ago, third_eye said:

......Scholar, political head, Judicial Chief, Minister, School Headmaster ...

Religious scholar, Head of a political system based on Scripture, Judicial Chief of religious practice, Minister in charge of interpreting and enforcing religious mandates, Religious School headmaster (more like a seminary than a conventional 'western' educational establishment). 

How many people do you know who went to a seminary, but who where not religious ? 

17 minutes ago, third_eye said:

What is it about all those honorifics by default garners attributes for anybody as 'religious' ? If anything it just designates authority and assigns jurisdiction, being 'religious' has nothing to do with all that as well as being all that has nothing to do with being religious ...  at least not in the manner that you are alleging it as so.

Well, these are honorifics and 'job titles' that are bestowed on people in recognition of religiosity, third_eye. You cannot become an Imam, or have 'authority' to issue Fatwa's, without being regarded as devout.

Even the Church of England wouldn't designate somebody as a vicar or cardinal if said person was not regarded as being a believer1 :) 

(1) Although a believer in WHAT is another issue entirely :P 

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1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

(1) Although a believer in WHAT is another issue entirely :P 

exactly ... my point, as it applies too to the other points raised, pertinent or otherwise ....

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3 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Well, these are honorifics and 'job titles' that are bestowed on people in recognition of religiosity, third_eye. You cannot become an Imam, or have 'authority' to issue Fatwa's, without being regarded as devout.

He's on the down-low.  It's also known as deniability.  It may walk and quack like a duck but we can't ever be justified in calling it one.  We aren't ducks so we could never understand. :P

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9 hours ago, and then said:

He's on the down-low.  It's also known as deniability.  It may walk and quack like a duck but we can't ever be justified in calling it one.  We aren't ducks so we could never understand. :P

Oh yes you do, you also knows very well that you do, you do it to disguise your similarity to those that you accuse.

Oh yes I do understand your deniability too , the ducks has nothing at all t o do with any of this

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Phaeton80
On 10-5-2018 at 6:41 AM, pallidin said:

Since when, offer one single instance, has an Israeli used a suicide vest to purposely kill innocents and children?

 

 

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Ok, this perfectly signifies the level of crazy some of us will wield in order to justify the sickening double measures we have become accustomed to. Just equate any enemy with extremism.

Weve seen it with Islam as a whole - where we conveniently equate a whole global religious community of 1.6 billion with terrorism.. But that isnt enough, no no. Now, we will do thesame with anyone our government tells us is 'bad'. Well just assassinate him why not! Because.. wait for it.. have WE ever used a suicide vest to kill innocents and children?! Nope, so we good, they bad, and they dead. End of story.

Such rising levels of blatant, unfathomable almost psychotic hypocrisy.. based on unrivalled shallow knowledge of the situation at hand, yet we still demand murder. Truely disconcerting. This might sound a bit melodramatic, but may god help us all with a population that supports misconstrued and completely unhinged sentiments like this.

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1 hour ago, Phaeton80 said:

where we conveniently equate a whole global religious community of 1.6 billion with terrorism

You don't even lie creatively.  Prattle on, Sir Righteous Indignance.  

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 Might know what could happen, Trump put a embassy in Jerusalem to bring Jesus ``s peace, but Iran might starting hitting a nuclear war as leading Assad :(

 

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23 hours ago, and then said:

You don't even lie creatively.  Prattle on, Sir Righteous Indignance.  

 

Well I apologize Im falling short, but almost no one compares to you in that department.. 'Christian', zealously defending the continuous crimes against humanity perpetrated by the warseeding US, as well as the Opressor & Mass Murderer of Semites.. Israel.

Palestinian protestors (Semites) dying in droves every day for coming too close to the Israeli borderfence / wall, getting picked off by military sniper fire, children included.. On which you would employ your 'creative lie', or defending those of the Israeli State, claiming only 'the bad guys', 'instigators' were targetted, civilians murdered in cold blood, from a great distance, by state of the art high powered rifles (or missile barrages, or white phosphorous, or..). 'Instigators..' sounds terrible, doesnt it. Irony would have it, that exactly this - the killing of demonstration 'instigators' - was used in the int community to first label Assad (as well as Qaddaffi) as the demons they were positioned as. Not so Israel and her 'strong leader' Netanyahu though, no they are in fact the victims defending themselves ('creative lie').

Lets be completely honest to ourselves here; no other nation on this earth could do what this political entity known as the Israeli State has been doing against the Palestinians for the better part of a century, including but certainly not limited to the latest killings of civilians, no one.

So again, the double measures are shockingly apparant, and you will lie creatively to garden the Israeli and US roofs; so as to make it look green and lush.. from a distance.
 

PS. I wasnt lying, equating Islam with terror is an overly obvious pattern present throughout certain denominations within the Western hemisphere. Part of thesame myriad of simplifications you and those like you serve themselves of to maintain their skewed, black & white worldview.
 

A very warm and Christian evening to you, sir.

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2 minutes ago, Phaeton80 said:

Lets be completely honest to ourselves here; no other nation on this earth could do what this political entity known as the Israeli State has been doing against the Palestinians for the better part of a century, including but certainly not limited to the latest killings of civilians, no one.

The nation-state of the Jewish people will never commit suicide for the likes of people who believe as you.  They may suffer death and destruction but they will never simply go away.  If you choose to twist your mind into a rictus of hate over that fact, that's a choice only YOU have made.  

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1 hour ago, and then said:

The nation-state of the Jewish people will never commit suicide for the likes of people who believe as you.  They may suffer death and destruction but they will never simply go away.  If you choose to twist your mind into a rictus of hate over that fact, that's a choice only YOU have made.  

 
The only thing I hate is injustice / ungodlyness, AT, and Israel is dealing it, in spades. Anyone with a semblence of objectivity, anyone able to even slightly look past the sharade can see that. She has more or less copied her former tormentor (ultra nationalism, supremacism, apartheid, anti- Semitism / rationalizing the oppression & decimation of 'lower classes'), and perfected it by way of emposing the everlasting victim role on the world through countless, most sophisticated channels. She is composed largely of Ashkenazim, descendants of Ashkenaz, killing and oppressing the native Palestinians, Semites, over decades.. descandants of Shem. Thesame Ashkenazim 'Jews' (a modern term which would hold very little meaning to those living in the days of Christ) publicly deny and even scoff Christ, while the Palestinian Muslims - quite literally servants of, 'one who submits to God' - hold him in the highest regard, mentioned more in the Qur'an than Muhammad him very self.

..And then, And Then pulls his 'creative lies' card in another vigorous, agressive attempt to maintain his black & white, up side down '21 century Zionist Christian' paradigm.

 

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4 hours ago, Phaeton80 said:

hold him in the highest regard, mentioned more in the Qur'an than Muhammad him very self.

As a subservient to said, Muhammad.  They simply choose a different role than do the Jews.  And, and then speaks his mind and doesn't care what others think of it, P80.  I'm not the one losing my mind in hatred over the topic. ;)

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1 hour ago, and then said:

I'm not the one losing my mind in hatred over the topic. ;)

You've lost it long ago ...

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1 hour ago, third_eye said:

You've lost it long ago ...

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Well, third... you know what they say about opinions and *******s.

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Just now, and then said:

Well, third... you know what they say about opinions and *******s.

Except for the labels and flags attached to the respective religion and beliefs of you and the fanatical mullahs here mentioned, you and them are actually cuts from the same and similar cult of shrouds,

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