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MK-ULTRA Mindcontrol

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Rlyeh
1 hour ago, Desertrat56 said:

Probably, but with a different name, it's called "The Media".

Religion has them beaten by 1000s of years.

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Desertrat56
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1 minute ago, Rlyeh said:

Religion has them beaten by 1000s of years.

Yep.  and now days they use "The Media" as well.

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AeroZeppelin
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4 hours ago, Rlyeh said:

Here is something to research; reading comprehension.

 

No, you didn't.  So I'll ask again, can you support that MK-Ultra was the "use of radiation, electromagnetic waves, trauma-based programming, etc. to control the mind of soldiers, enemies, hitmen, your average Joe, etc."?

You might want to pay attention to the words being used here.

 

My reading comprehension is pretty good. And when I don’t understand something I don’t have an issue asking for a better explanation. More on point, though: I presented a government document which clearly states MK-Ultra concerned itself with the reasearch and development of radiological materials. That would link up with the poster’s comment about the use of radiation being used in their studies for the purpose of mind control (again, the mind control aspect is stated in the document).

The document also states the purpose of this was to use these developed techniques in “clandestine operations.” That would mean that it could very well have been used to control the minds of soldiers, enemies, hitmen, and anyone else they chose to use these techniques on.

As for the part of the poster’s statement about electromagnetic waves and trauma based programming to control one’s mind I’d have to look around more and see if there is such documentation of this. That said, trauma is most definitely one method used to break a person down and manipulate their mind. This is especially true when inflicted upon children. There are also patented weapons involving the use of electromagnetic waves to manipulate one’s mind as well. Whether it can be linked via actual documents to MK-Ultra I can’t say at the moment. I would have to look about and see.

Furthermore, back in 1973 all documentation of MK-Ultra was ordered to be destroyed. Most of the documents were. The ones that remain available is because they were stored improperly and overlooked as a result. When the government goes and destroys documentation of such things it makes it a bit more difficult to present the evidence. That is meant as a statement in general regarding topics such as this, however, and not simply as it pertains to MK-Ultra.

For all the time you waste scouring the Conspiracy section here at UM on a daily basis (over many years) to troll posters and veer topics off course or tie-in more outlandish claims into certain discussions you could actually, you know, spend that time researching the subjects yourself and learning of realities you seem determined not to ever gain a true understanding of.

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AeroZeppelin
2 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

Yep.  and now days they use "The Media" as well.

The media is used to condition people. To some extent one could very well argue it brain washes the masses. But since this is done from birth people simply view it as what society is because most won’t know to think any differently unless they take a step back from things and attempt to view it as if they were an ousider stumbling upon the world and societal construct we live in.

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Rlyeh
10 hours ago, AeroZeppelin said:

My reading comprehension is pretty good.

Not that good when you can't answer a question.  Your rambling is hand waving.

 

10 hours ago, AeroZeppelin said:

That would mean that it could very well have been used to control the minds of soldiers, enemies, hitmen, and anyone else they chose to use these techniques on.

They could, but no one asked if they could.

 

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Rlyeh
15 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

Yep.  and now days they use "The Media" as well.

The amount of people who have killed because "The Media" told them to is minuscule.

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AeroZeppelin
12 hours ago, Rlyeh said:

Not that good when you can't answer a question.  Your rambling is hand waving.

 

They could, but no one asked if they could.

 

I answered your question. Whether you choose to accept it or not is up to you. I also provided documentation which backs it up. Have you ever considered perhaps you are the one lacking in reading comprehension and the ability to discern what is likely and what is not likley based on valid information presented to you regarding certain topics of discussion here?

Better yet, how about we focus on the subject rather than debating who is more capable of recognizing what the information presented indicates.

If you take issue with the document please let me know specifically what you take issue with and we can have a discussion about it.

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AeroZeppelin
On 6/10/2019 at 2:32 PM, Desertrat56 said:

Yep.  and now days they use "The Media" as well.

 

And now, for your “local” news report:

 

 

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Desertrat56
10 hours ago, AeroZeppelin said:

 

And now, for your “local” news report:

 

 

Yep!  If it was obvious to me in the 80's and I rarely watch any news, occasionally the local news for weather.  I noticed in the early 70's that the 3 networks (there were only 3 in our town back then) had some kind of thing where the movie of the week rotated 4 themes and nothing else.  for example, one week network 1 would show crime spree of the week movie, network two they next day would show medical trauma of the week movie and network 3 would show family abuse of the week movie.  the next week they would rotate in a romantic comedy to replace one of the dramas and each week they would rotate the kind of movie.  I pointed this out to my mom and her friend but they did not understand what I was saying.  Then the democratic convention was on television the summer of 73, the year before I was old enough to vote and it was obvious that the democrats were doing everything they could to make sure Nixon won.  Of course they knew about watergate and they were in cahoots with the republicans PTB to take him down for good without assassinating him.  I was 17 then and have been suspiscious and cynical about the media and the manipulation that goes on, and has been for at least 50 years.  I had already read a lot of science fiction written by authors that noticed trends and wrote "what if" stories, like 1984, Fahrenheit 451, A Brave New World and A Stranger in a Strange Land, etc.

 

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