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How would gods omnipotence work

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Jodie.Lynne
4 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

If you think about it then a thing can only exist if its made out of something.

If you think of a thing, envision it, does it exist?

 

We can imagine many things; FTL space travel, time travel, cloning processes that don't take a lifetime to bear fruit, etc. 

Da Vinci envisioned ( and sketched!) many things that couldn't be realistically created in his time, but required advancements in technology to achieve. Did they not exist? Or did they exist as an idea, a datum, a seed awaiting germination, an inspiration?

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XenoFish

The more I think about all this. The more I find it all most hilarious. People arguing over the reality of someone's imaginary friend. I'm guilty of this as well, but dang it's one hell of a joke. 

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XenoFish

God as an idea, as a fictional character can be whatever we wish it to be. Like superman or batman, even the greek gods got a second life as comic book characters. Seems people need their 'hero' and 'god' types to illustrate something. God is all, god is this, god is that. God only exist within the bounds of human imagination. That is the only place god is real. 

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RabidMongoose
2 hours ago, Jodie.Lynne said:

If you think of a thing, envision it, does it exist?

 

We can imagine many things; FTL space travel, time travel, cloning processes that don't take a lifetime to bear fruit, etc. 

Da Vinci envisioned ( and sketched!) many things that couldn't be realistically created in his time, but required advancements in technology to achieve. Did they not exist? Or did they exist as an idea, a datum, a seed awaiting germination, an inspiration?

If you think about it then mental activity requires a brain and hence ideas are made from something.

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Jodie.Lynne
1 hour ago, RabidMongoose said:

If you think about it then mental activity requires a brain and hence ideas are made from something.

And your point is? I feel like I'm missing what you are trying to say.

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RabidMongoose
6 hours ago, Jodie.Lynne said:

And your point is? I feel like I'm missing what you are trying to say.

I read your reply as you trying to show that ideas are nothingness yet exist.

I was trying to show they arent nothingness, they are mental activity created by a material brain.

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jmccr8
22 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

they are mental activity created by a material brain.

Hi RapidMongoose

Without out the existence of mental activity questioning whether something exists or not is irrelevant because the question would not exist.

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Habitat
1 minute ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi RapidMongoose

Without out the existence of mental activity questioning whether something exists or not is irrelevant because the question would not exist.

jmccr8

Is someone smoking something again ?

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jmccr8
Just now, Habitat said:

Is someone smoking something again ?

Hi Habitat

No just having a little fun do you have a problem with that?:huh::lol:

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Habitat
2 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Habitat

No just having a little fun do you have a problem with that?:huh::lol:

jmccr8

I read it three or four times, not making any immediate sense to me.

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jmccr8
Just now, Habitat said:

I read it three or four times, not making any immediate sense to me.

Hi Habitat

If there is no mind to question anything then there is no significance to anything or question because there is no intelligence to make things intelligible enough to question.:D

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Habitat

As dejarma would say, "oh, OK then " :)

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Pettytalk
39 minutes ago, Habitat said:

As dejarma would say, "oh, OK then " :)

It's not OK with me. I don't see how he could possibly be having fun when he is citing intelligence. I don't see the intelligence he is questioning with.

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jmccr8
10 hours ago, Pettytalk said:

It's not OK with me. I don't see how he could possibly be having fun when he is citing intelligence. I don't see the intelligence he is questioning with.

Hi Pettytalk

It's ok if your not ok with what I said and by the way I did not question anything, I stated an observation. Intelligence is what makes things intelligible and without it there are no questions period and nothing has a meaning.

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Sir Wearer of Hats
On 5/9/2018 at 5:03 PM, Keymaster said:

Operating Under the assumption that there is a unified conciousness, in what way would it perhaps exist. And if so how could this conciousness give and recieve information omnipotently. Aswell as have the ability to interact with physical matter taking up space/ the space itself. I have my own opinions, but i would really like to hear others. 

Basically - Griffin from Men In Black 3.

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Horta
On 5/9/2018 at 8:03 PM, Piney said:

I believe in the Algonquian concept that "God" is Creation. Literally the "Living Universe" which we are all part of.  

That's about the only version of an "omnipotent" god that makes any sense at all IMO. Similar to Einstein's god.

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Piney
1 minute ago, Horta said:

That's about the only version of an "omnipotent" god that makes any sense at all IMO. Similar to Einstein's god.

The Chinese have the same concept Tien,  "The Heavens"  The Japanese term is Amenominakanushi  "Originating Heart of the Universe"

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Alchopwn

I am more inclined to the Brahma's Dream notion of omnipotence.  The idea is that a tremendous intellect that is dreaming the universe into existence, and thus the unconscious desire of the deity is acting as a sub-processor, that maintains the continuity of the universe, while the mind of the deity is like a mathematical matrix of interactions.  While the deity may be awake within the dream and produce an avatar, they cannot be slain, as it is their dream.  On the other hand, woe betide the individual who is present when the deity achieves enlightenment and awakens.

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