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Why would aliens come to Earth to mine gold?


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There are many stories about aliens coming to Earth to find gold. These stories are often repeated on the internet and probably derive from Sitchin's fiction.

Does it make sense to come to Earth and to have to raise the gold from the Earth's surface? Probably not. There is an asteroid named 433 Eros that contains more gold than found on the Earth. That is just one asteroid.

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/small-bodies/asteroids/433-eros/in-depth/

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Eros is an S-type asteroid, the most common type in the inner asteroid belt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/433_Eros

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Data from the Near Earth Asteroid Rendezvous spacecraft collected on Eros in December 1998 suggests that it could contain 20,000 billion kilograms of aluminum and similar amounts of metals that are rare on Earth, such as gold and platinum.

http://www.astronomytrek.com/the-next-gold-rush-asteroid-mining/

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After asteroid 433 Eros flew close to the Earth in 1998, scientists estimated that the rocky body contained around 20 billion tons of precious metals, including gold, platinum and titanium. This would have an equivalent value of $11 trillion in today’s prices.

This figure was based on the fact that stony asteroids contain roughly 3% precious metals and when one considers there are over 9,000 known asteroids travelling in a close orbit to Earth, is it any wonder scientists are wondering whether the next gold rush will take place in outer space.

That is one asteroid with  more gold in it than has been mined on Earth. So where did all of the gold on Earth come from?

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110907132044.htm

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Ultra high precision analyses of some of the oldest rock samples on Earth by researchers at the University of Bristol provides clear evidence that the planet's accessible reserves of precious metals are the result of a bombardment of meteorites more than 200 million years after Earth was formed.

The surface material we find is from bombardments. The bulk of the gold  is alloyed with the iron in the core.

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During the formation of Earth, molten iron sank to its centre to make the core. This took with it the vast majority of the planet's precious metals -- such as gold and platinum. In fact, there are enough precious metals in the core to cover the entire surface of Earth with a four-metre thick layer.

Since the Earth is relatively poor in previous metal reserves does it make sense to think t hat aliens would come to Earth to mine gold?

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It really doesn't. But if it was the case and I had to venture a guess I would say for the atmosphere?

It would be a lot easier to trick a greedy species to mine the earth for you, but would you have the same results leaving them on an asteroid?

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Its gold because it would be unspectacular to claim that the alienz come here to harvest Jelly Beans, bobble hats or cross-eyed Chihuahuas.

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An asteroid is already in space. There is no expense to raise the gold out of the Earth's gravitational field. There is much more gold in the asteroids and it is easier to extract.

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28 minutes ago, stereologist said:

There are many stories about aliens coming to Earth to find gold. These stories are often repeated on the internet and probably derive from Sitchin's fiction.

 

Ah these are the same people who think there are aliens visiting Earth, they might as well say aliens are collecting rabbit droppings, both are equally as likely....but gold sounds a touch more appealing plus it keeps Mr Rubens in business if he can convince the gullible that gold is dwindling because of aliens. 

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56 minutes ago, NicoletteS said:

It really doesn't. But if it was the case and I had to venture a guess I would say for the atmosphere?

It would be a lot easier to trick a greedy species to mine the earth for you, but would you have the same results leaving them on an asteroid?

Don't you think a species that have mastered interstellar travel would be able to build machines to do the mining for them ?

In that case you don't need people or an an atmosphere in the first place.

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56 minutes ago, stereologist said:

An asteroid is already in space. There is no expense to raise the gold out of the Earth's gravitational field. There is much more gold in the asteroids and it is easier to extract.

But that would require people to know about things like orbital mechanics, delta-v and escape velocity. You know things they skip over in Hollywood movies.

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The idea of aliens coming to Earth to mine gold is an idea put forth by Sitchin.

Sitchin was an idiot who didn't actually understand the languages he "translated," and had no formal scientific training. Figuring out why he came up with the gold mining idea isn't nearly as important as figuring outvwhy other idiots find it such an appealing idea, in the teeth of basically any science education.

--Jaylemurph 

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11 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

Don't you think a species that have mastered interstellar travel would be able to build machines to do the mining for them ?

In that case you don't need people or an an atmosphere in the first place.

Hence the reason I said it really doesn't... But it would require reading my post to understand what I said. Also mechanical machines require maintenance while organic machines are self replicating and programmed to survive at all costs. Your assuming by your question to my hypothetical response that humans aren' in fact machines sent here to mine. From what I've seen our gold digger programming is still functional after thousands of years could you devise a better machine?

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1 hour ago, toast said:

Its gold because it would be unspectacular to claim that the alienz come here to harvest Jelly Beans, bobble hats or cross-eyed Chihuahuas.

I bet cross eyed Chihuahuas are more rare than gold.  Aliens could probably make a killing on the galactic cross eyed Chihuahua market.

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The simple fact is that if aliens wanted gold all they have to do is spend a short time mining asteroids.

There is no reason to go to earth to find a rare commodity when they'd be smart enough to know that a planet is no place to find gold.

Gold is not on a planet surface. As I posted in the OP the gold we see if from bombardment from asteroids. Aliens able to cross the cosmos would also know that.

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26 minutes ago, NicoletteS said:

Hence the reason I said it really doesn't... But it would require reading my post to understand what I said.

Yet below you again state that humans would make sense as gold diggers.

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Also mechanical machines require maintenance while organic machines are self replicating and programmed to survive at all costs.

"Organic machines" require air, water, food, rest, sleep and medical threatment. A normal machine can run on solar power, which is renewable, free and easily available in space

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Your assuming by your question to my hypothetical response that humans aren' in fact machines sent here to mine.

I think that should be a pretty safe assumption. We have a very comprehensive record of the development of humans and absolutely no evidence that we were "sent" here.

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From what I've seen our gold digger programming is still functional after thousands of years could you devise a better machine?

Personally I probably couldn't. Luckily others have allready done so.

Gold placer Mining

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"Organic machines". Holy &hit !

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If this was happening, I'd guess because it's an excellent conductor of electricity. But....this type of scenario isn't happening anyway, so..

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18 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

Yet below you again state that humans would make sense as gold diggers.

"Organic machines" require air, water, food, rest, sleep and medical threatment. A normal machine can run on solar power, which is renewable, free and easily available in space

I think that should be a pretty safe assumption. We have a very comprehensive record of the development of humans and absolutely no evidence that we were "sent" here.

Personally I probably couldn't. Luckily others have allready done so.

Gold placer Mining

Top-10-largest-mining-trucks-in-the-world.jpg

Judging by your response you just want to argue so bad that you don't really care that I didn't at all make any claims like that... so go ahead keep building straw men to fight with.

Oh well I'll bite anyways... If humans are so much higher maintenance as mining tools then why do the ones you pictured need humans to build/operate/repair them? Does the loader there think critcally, fuel itself and heal or does it break down and wait for help? Do they keep replicating and continuing to exist due to their self preservation programming or does it just sit there?

Have you noticed that we in fact have food, air, water and such here and not on an asteroid or are you unsure of your position in your own argument?

Is solar power actually freely available in space or is it only... I don't know... near a solar source such as the one we revolve around?

If your comprehensive record of the development of people thousands of years ago doesn't say we were sent here, where does it say we started? Id love to take a look at your complete record of humanity sounds amazing where can I find it?

But besides the fact that your arguments don't make sense... did it ever occur to you that I never claimed we were sent here to mine? I specifically stated that it doesn' make sense to posit that aliens would want to mine earth and yet you are still so bored your acting as if I said the opposite and making incredibly weak self defeating arguments about it...

Apparently you are not familiar with the term hypothetical. What you practice is what we call cognitive dissonance. When you want to find real answers you explore every possibility and think critically. It is much more effective a learning tool than deciding you know something that you really have no clue about based on popular opinion and trying to build around that opinion rather than opening your eyes or thinking for yourself.

I know that there are quite a few people here who operate that way and sadly they don't even realize that the baseless popular opinions they parade as fact were all at one time considered fringe or absurd before those with intellect and vision found a way to demonstrate or prove them. Such a waste of otherwise useful intellect.

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46 minutes ago, toast said:

"Organic machines". Holy &hit !

I always considered living creatures to be self replicating organic electrical machines.  I mean we are. The terminology just fit into this scenario as I was joking about us being created by another being as many creation stories go. Tbh I was referring to our oldest surviving history book, the bible. People felt the need to pass these stories down for a reason. Im adamantly not Christian but I do take into account that people felt these stories were very important and contain the oldest known explanation of our origin. So what do they say? Someone came and made us from dirt. I don' believe God is an egocentric man as religions will have you believe but the totality of everything. So who is this crazy vengeful guy who supposedly made a garden and left us in it? Not God by any means, God is love and he sounds awful. But I'm getting sidetracked my point is our bodies basically are machines. We are like God above other animals just like they said as we have the minds to create machines as well. We are not up to par yet to construct a machine as complex as ourselves but we have made leaps and bounds this century for sure. Is it hard to imagine we could write the programming in a few hundred more years? We are already editing DNA. Maybe someday soon well catch up to octopi.

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1 hour ago, XenoFish said:

But nicolette aren't you the one who got ptsd from an alien abduction? 

Well it's a little more complex than that. Self diagnosed ptsd more likely stemming from my horrible experience marrying a sociopath. But it was around the same time hard to say. I actually wasn't abducted but boarded willingly. If you are aware I had ptsd you may also be aware of the rest of those posts in which I state that I don't actually believe they are aliens. My dumb ass got to ask questions but what did I ask? What's the meaning of life. I asked about quantum physics and that' how I got all the answers I have about frequencies and other dimensions/planes. But did I bother to ask who are you? No. As I've stated before though I'm pretty sure the "aliens" we are seing are no extra-terrestrials but extradimensionals. They are from earth, just living in a frequency that doesn't normally interact with ours without the help of the saucers. The one I saw was like a tall typical grey only it's face had more of a hideous pit rather than the humanlike nose and mouth often pictured. I literally fainted when I saw it. Only time on my life. I almost fainted again when I was in the device they let me use to see what some other frequency levels are like because i saw one that was inhabited and it terrified me. That's why they hurried and sent me home because they thought me so panicky that It might be a danger to my health. Its not an easy thing to come to grips with and took me years to be able to speak freely about but no, I don't think it was the source of the ptsd it was the torture I endured that did that. How is this relevant now?

Also I'm leaving something out. I was actually diagnosed with ptsd at 14 and nobody knew why. I do but I don't want to share because I believe factions of our own government are involved and I am not in any position to spearhead the abuse they are getting away with until I have more answers and a way to help the current victims. I'm powerless against them and not ready to pick up that fight just trying to forget it.

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22 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Self diagnosed. That explains everything. 

Hardly. I'm very well self aware enough to see precisely what I went through no need to go to a doctor for that because I got myself through it just fine. When diagnosed with it at 14 they told me i was upset about my parents divorcing 12 years prior (which I couldn't  have been less concerned about) and gave me Zoloft which when I took one made me feel chemically imbalanced and awful so I threw them away. Wasn't interested in repeating the experience. People are way overmedicated when there are much better ways to heal without making you feel like your brain wiring is going haywire. I went to a different specialist and she said it was a post nasal drip. Very different things. I didn' tell them I couldn't breath through my nose because it felt like something was crammed up in the roof of my mouth by my sinuses. I'm just glad that last year at 32 it finally disappeared and I don't care what it was just glad it's over with and I can sleep at night without the fear of being taken.

 

When you live in a small town you have to be good at self diagnosing any problem because doctors are largely incompetent and there has to be bones sticking out for them to see it. I figure we just get all the ones that nobody else wants. Same with the police. So lucky I've always been in good health other than the nasal drip or ptsd or whatever they decided. I don't even dare to ask them why my sister has a missing vertebrate and I have a doubleknob where she has none even though I would love professional opinion.

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5 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

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Dont ask questions that dont have simple answers if you don't want my long winded explanations because my life was never simple.

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7 minutes ago, NicoletteS said:

Dont ask questions that dont have simple answers if you don't want my long winded explanations because my life was never simple.

I don't care about your life. 

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You remembered a personal detail about me and asked about it. I don't really care whether you care about me. As a stranger I'd generally assume you don't.... But you were the one discussing my life. I still fail to see the relevance to the topic but hey I love myself I'll always oblige :)

Just kidding anyways I mean I'm not stupid obviously it was a weak attempt to discredit me and put words in my mouth but I'm not shy I will clarify any time.

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