Truthseeker007 Posted May 27, 2018 #51 Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 7:29 AM, Goddess of the Mist said: I don't know, I personally like the idea of reincarnation. I feel like our bodies are just clothing for the soul. They become sick, are in too much pain, or just plain wear out - and the soul takes off flying. “I'm not afraid of death because I don't believe in it. It's just getting out of one car, and into another.” ― John Lennon 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted May 28, 2018 Author #52 Share Posted May 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Truthseeker007 said: “I'm not afraid of death because I don't believe in it. It's just getting out of one car, and into another.” ― John Lennon Its what I believe no recycling but going to heaven and staying there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted May 28, 2018 #53 Share Posted May 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Its what I believe no recycling but going to heaven and staying there no disrespect towards your beliefs, but that seems pretty pointless to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted May 28, 2018 Author #54 Share Posted May 28, 2018 9 hours ago, Truthseeker007 said: Did you ever hear of the Akashic Records That was Cayce of believing in the Akashic Records and could be records shown from ancestor from ancestors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted May 28, 2018 #55 Share Posted May 28, 2018 9 hours ago, Truthseeker007 said: That maybe exactly what happens. Infinite possibilities mean infinite experiences. No such thing as infinite possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted May 28, 2018 #56 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Time for a music video clip intermission ... ~ [00.04:12] ~ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.O'N Posted May 28, 2018 #57 Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, third_eye said: Time for a music video clip intermission ... ~ [00.04:12] ~ Change heaven to haven and haven would have a nice song for its adverts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthseeker007 Posted May 28, 2018 #58 Share Posted May 28, 2018 7 hours ago, docyabut2 said: Its what I believe no recycling but going to heaven and staying there Where is heaven? Would that be some religious heaven for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthseeker007 Posted May 28, 2018 #59 Share Posted May 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Rlyeh said: No such thing as infinite possibilities. How so? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthseeker007 Posted May 28, 2018 #60 Share Posted May 28, 2018 7 hours ago, docyabut2 said: That was Cayce of believing in the Akashic Records and could be records shown from ancestor from ancestors. A lot of channeled material talks about it so their might be something to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted May 28, 2018 #61 Share Posted May 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Truthseeker007 said: How so? Because everything isn't possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted May 28, 2018 #62 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Quote but atheists are wrong, energy does not die but changes forms I see you have some straw in your post. Since when do atheists claim that energy "dies"? Energy is not "alive", so it can't "die". 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthseeker007 Posted May 28, 2018 #63 Share Posted May 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Rlyeh said: Because everything isn't possible. Why isn't everything possible? We only know a small fraction of what is possible in this 3d reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted May 28, 2018 #64 Share Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Truthseeker007 said: Why isn't everything possible? We only know a small fraction of what is possible in this 3d reality. Because of something called mutual exclusivity. Edited May 28, 2018 by Rlyeh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted May 28, 2018 #65 Share Posted May 28, 2018 On 5/23/2018 at 5:45 PM, docyabut2 said: I don't want to believe we all have to die and recycle recycle , live in a bitter place of where life has to consume all life to survive, but a place of peace and happiness , heaven All eternity without change is the same as no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted May 28, 2018 #66 Share Posted May 28, 2018 On 5/23/2018 at 5:21 PM, XenoFish said: Yeah, I'm not going to bother with this thread again. It'll turn into nothing more than an echo chamber of beliefs. Won't be worth my time and energy. Just thought I'd quote you and see if I could draw you in one more time out of curiosity. Knock once if you saw this and twice if you didn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted May 29, 2018 #67 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 28/05/2018 at 1:44 AM, Rlyeh said: Now where does it say energy is alive? I didn't see that in , or read that into, the original statement. The destruction of a specific ordering of matter and energy ( as found in the human mind) might result in the destruction of the abilities of that mind, but it is true that none of it (the matter and energy) can be destroyed, only changed in form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted May 29, 2018 #68 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 27/05/2018 at 12:17 PM, JMPD1 said: That is very possible, and plausible. I do hope, however, that you are not claiming that some form of consciousness would accompany those particles. No. Only that, via evolution; life, then consciousness, could evolve from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted May 29, 2018 #69 Share Posted May 29, 2018 11 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said: I see you have some straw in your post. Since when do atheists claim that energy "dies"? Energy is not "alive", so it can't "die". Would entropy count as the death of energy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted May 29, 2018 #70 Share Posted May 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Mr Walker said: Would entropy count as the death of energy? More a chaotic dispersal of energy to my understanding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted May 29, 2018 #71 Share Posted May 29, 2018 1 hour ago, psyche101 said: More a chaotic dispersal of energy to my understanding. Or is it more that, in a closed system, there is no longer enough available energy to organise and perform work, causing the system to fall into decay and disorder.? The less available thermo dynamic energy, the greater the entropy of the system. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted May 29, 2018 #72 Share Posted May 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: Or is it more that, in a closed system, there is no longer enough available energy to organise and perform work, causing the system to fall into decay and disorder.? The less available thermo dynamic energy, the greater the entropy of the system. In a closed system, its still dispersal to an even state. Think of a glass of water with an ice cube in it sitting in a room. Heat dispersal is what changes the state of the ice, making it "less organised" eventually everything in the room is the same temperature, the energy which has been localised, or ordered by temperature to allow things like the ice cube to take form is now at an even state across the whole room. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted May 29, 2018 #73 Share Posted May 29, 2018 1 hour ago, psyche101 said: In a closed system, its still dispersal to an even state. Think of a glass of water with an ice cube in it sitting in a room. Heat dispersal is what changes the state of the ice, making it "less organised" eventually everything in the room is the same temperature, the energy which has been localised, or ordered by temperature to allow things like the ice cube to take form is now at an even state across the whole room. Good explanation. Now tell me. if energy cannot be created or destroyed, where is the energy within this closed system Answer. It doesn't go anywhere. I is just no longer in a form where it can do work If it can't do work, is it still energy, because the definition of energy is this. Energy is the ability to bring about change or to do work. If there is no potential or kinetic abilty to effect change, is there still any energy? .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted May 29, 2018 #74 Share Posted May 29, 2018 10 hours ago, Mr Walker said: I didn't see that in , or read that into, the original statement. The destruction of a specific ordering of matter and energy ( as found in the human mind) might result in the destruction of the abilities of that mind, but it is true that none of it (the matter and energy) can be destroyed, only changed in form. Might? So my car might stop working if I put it in a car compactor? How about most likely? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted May 30, 2018 #75 Share Posted May 30, 2018 17 hours ago, Mr Walker said: Good explanation. Thank you. 17 hours ago, Mr Walker said: Now tell me. if energy cannot be created or destroyed, where is the energy within this closed system Answer. It doesn't go anywhere. I is just no longer in a form where it can do work If it can't do work, is it still energy, because the definition of energy is this. Energy is the ability to bring about change or to do work. If there is no potential or kinetic abilty to effect change, is there still any energy? .. Its there yes, bit now imagine that room is the universe, constantly expanding. That energy becomes so dispersed that it lacks the ability to cohese into a useful state. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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