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All Roads Lead Back to Barack Obama

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Farmer77
Just now, Ellapennella said:

If you're not gonna be honest about the weather undergrounds ideology and their influence in American politics  how can there be a conversation with you  about politics and their role in it? The UK was not honest with themselves about things and look what's going on there.

Clearly we'll just have to agree that we have a different understanding of that piece of history. 

1 minute ago, Ellapennella said:

You would like for  what you're saying about that to be true but what you're saying about that  is not true.

Then show the proof. Not the rumor, not the innuendo, but the proof that this assertion is  anymore than the ravings of a desperate man under investigation.  

 

5 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

Under the law, to unmask for political reasons, or to leak classified information containing Americans names is illegal.

Sigh, your claim is that it was done for political reasons but the facts don't back up that claim. You're still in denial about the seriousness of the investigation. Without accepting that basic fact you (or Trump himself) will always be spinning to find some conspiracy theory to discredit the investigation because you feel its unfair. 

9 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

I'm speaking about the left as in political left activist of the 60's.I'm speaking about those individuals who have stepped into positions in universities and government and you would like to assure us that the are no worries about them? 

Certainly no more than any other slimeball politician.  

10 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

ndividuals involved in the weather underground who helped jump start Obama from their living room in Chicago have been on record stating that they learned that they were getting nowhere in the streets and so they got into government and universities to influence transformation of America, 

Keep on banging that drum Ella, it really doesn't change my initial point. The left of the 1960's and 1970's would be considered moderate to conservative today. Hell Obama himself was a moderate, even the evil Hillary is more centrist in practice than most want to believe. 

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Ellapennella
47 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Clearly we'll just have to agree that we have a different understanding of that piece of history. 

 

What is it that you don't understand about the weather undergrounds ideology and their influence in American politics ?  The UK was not honest with themselves about things and look what's going on there.

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Then show the proof. Not the rumor, not the innuendo, but the proof that this assertion is  anymore than the ravings of a desperate man under investigation.  

 

Barack Obama was cosy with three (former) terrorists.

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Sigh, your claim is that it was done for political reasons but the facts don't back up that claim. 

What facts do the democrats have to back up theirs?  

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you're still in denial about the seriousness of the investigation.

The democrats or whatever they are now are in denial of recognizing that we voted and we  won the Presidency. 

 

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Keep on banging that drum Ella, it really doesn't change my initial point. The left of the 1960's and 1970's would be considered moderate to conservative today. Hell Obama himself was a moderate, even the evil Hillary is more centrist in practice than most want to believe. 

Oh boy ..as moderate as that Wright guy he sat under and was mentored by. 

 

Barack Obama stated "Open up your hearts and minds to the words of Professor Derrick Bell" These are the words of Obama's mentor Derrick Bell "I Live to Harass White Folk"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e56k3ZvLYxU

Everything about Obama was hidden from the American people,  including spying on  the Trump Campaign. 

 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

Barack Obama was cosy with three (former) terrorists.

I'm well aware of his affiliation with them.  I'm definitely not here to defend Obama. 

13 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

What is it that you don't understand about the weather undergrounds ideology and their influence in American politics ?

The part that has you all in a panic. We were speaking in general terms and you focused in on a small group of individuals like they were going to mail you a bomb tomorrow.  

14 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

What facts do the democrats have to back up theirs?  

Here's part of your confusion. The democrats aren't the ones who initiated the investigation, nor are they the ones performing it. 
 

13 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

The democrats or whatever they are now are in denial of recognizing that we voted and we  won the Presidency. 

Again, deflection which is really wholly independent of the facts. The democrats have nothing to do with the investigation. It's being headed by a republican with oversight from a republican. 

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Ellapennella
24 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

 

I'm well aware of his affiliation with them.  I'm definitely not here to defend Obama. 

 

So don't claim he's a moderate when he's not. 

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he part that has you all in a panic. We were speaking in general terms and you focused in on a small group of individuals like they were going to mail you a bomb tomorrow.  

I'm not in a panic I'm just aware that professors and organizations  who hold that ideology have impacted our nation by targeting the youth. You would like to pass  them off as forgotten and irrelevant.. That ideology is what runs &  controls the left regardless  of what face is on it.

 

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The democrats aren't the ones who initiated the investigation, nor are they the ones performing it. 
 

This  fake investigation was conspired intentionally in hopes to  call into question the integrity and validity of our President &  To cast our votes aside as irrelevant by all the bad actors involved .Lets be honest there is no Russian Collusion with President Trump in fact he has been the  toughest on Russia & China . Trump is not downgrading America out to benefit the communist nations around the world as did Obama. 

 

 

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The democrats or whatever they are now are in denial of recognizing that we voted and we  won the Presidency. 

 

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internetperson
On 5/28/2018 at 2:01 AM, Aquila King said:
  • We already have free public schools, I simply want to expand that out to free public college.
  • We already have guaranteed healthcare for those 65 or older (Medicare), I want to expand that out to include all people.
  • We already have a minimum wage, I simply want to raise it so that those who work full time are able to pay for their bare-basic necessities.

Who's going to pay for all this?

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Aquila King
3 hours ago, internetperson said:

Who's going to pay for all this?

The whole "we can't afford it" line is getting really old...

'Affording' it isn't the problem, not prioritizing it is the problem.

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internetperson
3 hours ago, Aquila King said:

'Affording' it isn't the problem, not prioritizing it is the problem.

Kinda vague. I'm assuming you mean cutting the military spending? 

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Aquila King
2 minutes ago, internetperson said:

Kinda vague. I'm assuming you mean cutting the military spending? 

Not solely, but that'd sure fund a hell of a lot of it.

When it comes to the specifics of how we'll pay for this and that, that requires sitting down and crunching the numbers on each and every issue. Economics is a complex science, and while I could sit here and break it down bit by bit, I really don't care to.

On Bernie Sanders' website, he breaks down the numbers on how to fund each and every policy proposal I've mentioned. I'd simply advise checking it out:

https://berniesanders.com/issues/

Also for a general read on the topic of funding:

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/43082-but-how-will-we-pay-for-it-modern-monetary-theory-and-democratic-socialism

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Farmer77
9 hours ago, Ellapennella said:

So don't claim he's a moderate when he's not. 

Ugh, being to the left of you does not make one extreme 

9 hours ago, Ellapennella said:

his  fake investigation was conspired intentionally in hopes to  call into question the integrity and validity of our President &  To cast our votes aside as irrelevant by all the bad actors involved

How so? How will it make your vote irrelevant? Which democrat will be taking his place if he is removed Ella? None, that's not how this nation works 

9 hours ago, Ellapennella said:

.Lets be honest there is no Russian Collusion with President Trump in fact he has been the  toughest on Russia & China .

We'll see. That's the point of the investigation. 

 

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Farmer77
9 hours ago, internetperson said:

Who's going to pay for all this?

As AK pointed out its about priorities. This being an excellent example : Scott Pruitt's $130 pens write another chapter in critics' unhappiness with his spending habits  

In Pruitts defense with the pen issue previous administrations have spent as much and more on such things which highlights how we have a problem with national priorities. The 43k phone booth is indefensible however. 

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