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China's 'Dark Sword' stealth drone revealed

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paperdyer

Why do people in the USA always believe we are light years ahead of everyone else?  Drinking the Kool-Aid?  This could all be misinformation, but should we take it lightly?  I don't think so.  We took Hitler lightly as well and see where that got us.  We ignored the radar reports at Pearl Harbor and see what we got. Our own technological arrogance will be our undoing.  If we were that smart we wouldn't have needed German scientist to fix our rocket program.  We were sure doing a "bang-up" job ourselves.

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OverSword
19 minutes ago, paperdyer said:

Why do people in the USA always believe we are light years ahead of everyone else?  Drinking the Kool-Aid?  This could all be misinformation, but should we take it lightly?  I don't think so.  We took Hitler lightly as well and see where that got us.  We ignored the radar reports at Pearl Harbor and see what we got. Our own technological arrogance will be our undoing.  If we were that smart we wouldn't have needed German scientist to fix our rocket program.  We were sure doing a "bang-up" job ourselves.

Aww Schucks.  Why would anyone think that think that?

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paperdyer

@Oversword - I never said we were stupid, just not as smart as we think we are.

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Marcin
20 hours ago, OverSword said:

Considering the sheer spending by the US on military as a fair measuring stick I'm very skeptical about any claims of China or any other nation soon outdoing the US militarily in any arena and doubly in the air or the sea 

Take into consideration the immeasurable over-spending while doing their military spending, how many swindlers got caught - and more importantly how many more didn't, inflating the prices of items on orders for that great big military machine, M4 screws for what amounts to $10 a pop instead of 10 cents etc. 

 

No doubt US military spending is huge, biggest in the world, but at the end of that long chain, how much of that funding actually makes it down to a practical field use by a military force, and how much is sucked up by be bureaucracy, overpriced orders getting away with it since the orders are often just automatic, transport and shipping costs etc. Spending alone doesn't necessarily translate into effective result. How many prototypes and "latest in the arsenal" items we've seen over the years... and yet, what we see is the general US army force still rocks around in same old humvees, updated with bits and pieces sure, but nothing new there, still rocking around with what is essentially a facelifted M16, all the that money yet not many visible changes on the outside. We get to see some token items like new F22's here and there, not in wide-spread use, some fancy new ship, not in wide-spread use, snapshots of some fancy new drone - most progress seems to be in that direction.

 

What I mean is Chinese govt with their "do as I say or else" iron fist grip could achieve a lot in a short time without as much as a quarter of US overheads.

 

Food for thought, I could be very wrong with it, but still.

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Farmer77
12 minutes ago, Marcin said:

Take into consideration the immeasurable over-spending while doing their military spending, how many swindlers got caught - and more importantly how many more didn't, inflating the prices of items on orders for that great big military machine, M4 screws for what amounts to $10 a pop instead of 10 cents etc. 

A different perspective on that is that perhaps the military never actually did pay 10 dollars instead of 10 cents, maybe they didn't buy that thousand dollar hammer, they just told us they did because that was the quickest way to account for the money which was being spent elsewhere, I.E black ops projects. 

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OverSword
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1 hour ago, Marcin said:

What I mean is Chinese govt with their "do as I say or else" iron fist grip could achieve a lot in a short time without as much as a quarter of US overheads.

You are so wrong.  China is not how you picture it.  I watched a documentary on NHK about the construction of the first trans-china highway (which is not very old to clue you in on Chinese organization and infrastructure) It was a nightmare of graft, bribery and organized crime gangs with corrupt construction companies fleecing everyone throughout the entire endeavor.  You may think that the government has everyone in a terrified lock-step but that is not the reality. 

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OverSword
7 hours ago, paperdyer said:

@Oversword - I never said we were stupid, just not as smart as we think we are.

regardless we are light years ahead of China in military technology and budget.

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Occams Razor
On 6/7/2018 at 1:25 AM, OverSword said:

This is just a mock up if not pure misinformation.  A friends son who was involved in the US drone program told me that we are years away from having a drone that could match an actual human in a pilots seat because there is too much lag  between telling a drone to do something and the actual execution of the move by the drone. 

Oh... I don't know: 

 

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OverSword
13 hours ago, Occams Razor said:

Oh... I don't know: 

 

Yes I've seen this but at no point do they say this design would be used for dog fighting purposes which is what the discussion is about.  As a matter of fact the man being interviewed said only in the realm of fantasy.  As I stated earlier drones are currently being used in a capacity that is perfect for their comparatively limited capabilities.

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Occams Razor
8 hours ago, OverSword said:

Yes I've seen this but at no point do they say this design would be used for dog fighting purposes which is what the discussion is about.  As a matter of fact the man being interviewed said only in the realm of fantasy.  As I stated earlier drones are currently being used in a capacity that is perfect for their comparatively limited capabilities.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19162-warning-sounded-over-british-dogfighting-drone/

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OverSword
15 hours ago, Occams Razor said:
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but it will also be able to seek and destroy enemy aircraft in dogfights

Only because they are relying on it's stealth capabilities not because it could actually compete with a pilot in a seat.  Even the Americans F-117 nighthawk, although called a stealth fighter is only used on bombing missions because it's too vulnerable in an actual dog fighter role.  But regardless this is England and France not China.  Although it wouldn't surprise me if the traitor Clinton gave the Chinese access to stealth technology we have no evidence of this and the drone from the photo of the OP is not a stealth craft by any stretch of the imagination, which is what this thread is about.

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