FFA 57 #1 Posted June 9, 2018 Its a known fact that if you take a jar of jelly beans and set it on a table in a room and ask people to guess the amount of beans in the jar, a single persons response is usually fairly wrong. However, it is also a known fact that as more people share their intuitive guesses that average of all the guesses gets closer and closer to the actual number of beans in the jar. Mathematically, given enough guesses the erros goes to zero. In short peoples intuition combined can make accurate predictions. The TPTB know this. This is why bots go out and comb the internet looking for information. Gather enough peoples incite form their Twitter and Facebook post etc. can predict the answer to that football game, weather, earth quake etc. Have some people in the past simply trained or polished this ability to make accurate predictions and are what is called psychic? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acute 66,538 #2 Posted June 9, 2018 It is a known fact that Google search statistics can predict the future, but being psychic has nothing to do with guesswork. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanjo 6,601 #3 Posted June 9, 2018 Playing it fast and loose with the word 'proof' there. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFA 57 #4 Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, acute said: It is a known fact that Google search statistics can predict the future, but being psychic has nothing to do with guesswork. Yes it can make predictions based on information from humans and its environment. Google statistics is a model that relies on its inputs and will produce the same value if the same information is put into its model. Guesswork is very often is based on feelings and are not only the result of inputs from its environment. Given enough people the results of their decisions based on there intuition (feelings) will lead to the right answer. You will find if you paint that jar of jelly beans black, given enough people making predictions the errors again will cancel. This can be extend to all kinds of areas. For example, remote viewing. Given enough people the error will cancel. Edited June 9, 2018 by FFA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acute 66,538 #5 Posted June 9, 2018 ^ Interesting theory! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFA 57 #6 Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) Its not a theory. It can be proven and demonstrated to be repeatable in all cases. That is, assuming you have a enough large enough sample size to test. Edited June 9, 2018 by FFA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aquila King 22,629 #7 Posted June 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, FFA said: Its not a theory. It can be proven and demonstrated to be repeatable in all cases. Can you prove and demonstrate that this isn't merely a psychological phenomena coupled with probability statistics? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acute 66,538 #8 Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, FFA said: Its not a theory. It can be proven and demonstrated to be repeatable in all cases. That is, assuming you have a enough large enough sample size to test. Sorry, but I'm not convinced. The collective 'guess' would be skewed by the high number of jelly beans expected in a painted jar you are being asked to estimate the contents of. Almost no one would guess "six", for example. Edited June 9, 2018 by acute 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rlyeh 17,458 #9 Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) This is a perfect example of magical thinking. You've taken something like statistical probability and come to the fallacious conclusion that it proves psychic abilities, despite absolutely no link. Edited June 9, 2018 by Rlyeh 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
papageorge1 5,908 #10 Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) deleted by author as posted in error I read the OP too fast and miss-assumed some things. I can admit to mistakes. Edited June 9, 2018 by papageorge1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GlitterRose 26,641 #11 Posted June 9, 2018 It just sounds like mundane probability. Get enough people in a room to guess how many jelly beans, and eventually, someone will guess correctly. Especially, if they're exposed to everyone else's guesses, and so they "choose" a different number. It's kinda like guessing a card. Enough people come in and guess, and there are only 52 possible choices. You get enough people and someone's gonna guess the card. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GlitterRose 26,641 #12 Posted June 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: A more conservative way of explaining the results, would be to claim that it shows results that have no known explanation in a materialist paradigm. The next step is to say it suggests some type of human ability that has been colloquially called 'psychic abilities'. Except that it doesn't. It's common sense that the more guesses you have, the more likely it is that someone will guess correctly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
papageorge1 5,908 #13 Posted June 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Except that it doesn't. It's common sense that the more guesses you have, the more likely it is that someone will guess correctly. Well, I think I read the OP too fast and miss-assumed what it was saying. I can admit errors once in awhile. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Not A Rockstar 8,997 #14 Posted June 9, 2018 I have heard this theory before and maybe it is true, maybe it is not. I have not read about it being tested to know if it reaches a point of higher accuracy than probability. Or, it could be that there are two ways we can come to a solution, one by mathematics, one by …. energy? Not sure how I would class the psychic effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truthseeker007 2,886 #15 Posted June 9, 2018 There is the Global Consciousness Project. http://noosphere.princeton.edu/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XenoFish 106,682 #16 Posted June 9, 2018 2 hours ago, ChaosRose said: Except that it doesn't. It's common sense that the more guesses you have, the more likely it is that someone will guess correctly. https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/law-of-large-numbers There's nothing 'psychic' about guess work. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rlyeh 17,458 #17 Posted June 10, 2018 This can be disproven by eliminating human choice, give everyone a random number, the more people the more random numbers. We get the same result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites