ellapenella Posted June 16, 2018 Author #26 Share Posted June 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: You can only cover everyone affordably if healthy young people sign up for health insurance. If you don't have healthy people signing up, then health insurance prices sky-rocket, because only older and sickly people are on it. It's actually fairly simple. Even Trump might be able to understand it if he tried to. I didn't vote for him for healthcare doesn't mean we don't have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted June 16, 2018 #27 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just now, Ellapennella said: I didn't vote for him for healthcare doesn't mean we don't have any. I hope you do have affordable healthcare, and I'm sure as a Christian you would want that for others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 16, 2018 Author #28 Share Posted June 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: The law...not just here...but international law... is that people have a right to seek asylum. They can do so at the border. Now they are being treated like criminals, torn apart from their children, and held in federal prisons. It is creating a crisis the likes of which we haven't ever seen before. He is now talking of building camps (tent cities) on army and air force bases. We voted for him to fix the broken immigration system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted June 16, 2018 #29 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just now, Ellapennella said: We voted for him to fix the broken immigration system. But he just broke it more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted June 16, 2018 #30 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just now, Ellapennella said: For you maybe. You wouldn't call that broken? Tearing children away from people legally seeking asylum who are presenting themselves at checkpoints? You do realize most of these families are Christians, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted June 16, 2018 #31 Share Posted June 16, 2018 He is punishing Christian families who are coming to our border seeking asylum because they are fleeing violence. And he is punishing them by taking their children away and holding them in detention centers sometimes thousands of miles away. It's unknown whether they'll ever get in contact again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 16, 2018 Author #32 Share Posted June 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Aquila King said: The scariest thing you've said in the whole thread ^ I'm not joking , he's kept all his promises. You can laugh if you want, but Putin did not respect Obama . It's pretty clear that Obama let Putin take Crimea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted June 16, 2018 #33 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ellapennella said: I'm not joking , he's kept all his promises. You can laugh if you want, but Putin did not respect Obama . It's pretty clear that Obama let Putin take Crimea. What's clear is that Putin took Crimea, and Trump just makes excuses for him. I wonder why that might be? Edited June 16, 2018 by ChaosRose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted June 16, 2018 #34 Share Posted June 16, 2018 In the not so distant past...Republicans never made excuses for Putin. Really...it wasn't very long ago at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted June 16, 2018 #35 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Aquila King said: Give it up Rose. There's no amount of reasoning or appeals to basic morality that can fix this. She's so deep into the Trump cult I'd unfortunately have to declare her too far gone... When you ask yourself what would Jesus do...I don't think this is it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila King Posted June 16, 2018 #36 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just now, ChaosRose said: When you ask yourself what would Jesus do...I don't think this is it. Let's see, how did that song go? "Red and yellow, black and white, they're all precious in his sight, Jesus loves the little children of the world (unless their parents are illegals, then ruin their childhood by separating them from their parents forever)" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila King Posted June 16, 2018 #37 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 minute ago, ChaosRose said: It's because of all the talk radio and Faux News and Alex Jones, Breitbart. It's conspiracy porn. It appeals to the darkest parts of the heart. But somewhere in there is still a Christian who knows about love and kindness. I just know it. I find your optimism quite admirable. I hate to admit it, but the lunacy of the Trump era is starting to really wear on me... Hard to have faith in the good of humanity anymore... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 16, 2018 Author #38 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Obama definitively projected weakness and Putin knew it therefore he had no respect for Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 16, 2018 Author #39 Share Posted June 16, 2018 31 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: In the not so distant past...Republicans never made excuses for Putin. Really...it wasn't very long ago at all. What are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted June 16, 2018 #40 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 hour ago, ChaosRose said: Like I said...you can try to blame someone else...but the fault lies on the leader who invaded another country and took territory from it. At least Obama was actually against Russia invading Ukraine. Where is Trump on that? I'm not seeing him giving Putin harsh words, let alone any kind of ultimatum. Just want to point out Obama refused to send the Ukrainians lethal aid while Trump has agreed to send them javelin anti-tank missiles. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/this-the-antitank-missile-that-the-us-sending-ukraine-2017-8 While Trump might not be saying much in terms of harsh words he is atleast sending something useful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 16, 2018 #41 Share Posted June 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, DarkHunter said: Just want to point out Obama refused to send the Ukrainians lethal aid while Trump has agreed to send them javelin anti-tank missiles. I remember the complaints about Obama not providing assistance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 16, 2018 Author #42 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Wes83 said: Hmm... So... Lack of respect for one man allowed the invasion of another country? For me to believe that i would have to assume everything the united states "is" essentially comes down to what president we have?? Now sure, he can sway policies, declare war yada yada. But he doesn't do anything without approval, i am assured its all a show. That's all im saying. Weakness in leadership was why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila King Posted June 16, 2018 #43 Share Posted June 16, 2018 41 minutes ago, Ellapennella said: Obama definitively projected weakness and Putin knew it therefore he had no respect for Obama. You and I have a very different idea of what 'respect' means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted June 16, 2018 #44 Share Posted June 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Ellapennella said: That reminds me of just how very thankful we all should be knowing that Hitlery didn't get to select any Judges for the Supreme court. I sleep so good at night knowing President Trump is in charge. Sycophancy.. Look it up Ella.. Perfect example there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 16, 2018 Author #45 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 hour ago, ChaosRose said: He is punishing Christian families who are coming to our border seeking asylum because they are fleeing violence. And he is punishing them by taking their children away and holding them in detention centers sometimes thousands of miles away. It's unknown whether they'll ever get in contact again. So I've seen how the left pushing this narrative about Christians and What would Jesus do. It seems pretty desperate on your end. What happens to American families if they get caught breaking the law, do they not get separated as well ? Have you considered that by having a "no tolerance policy "it prevents human trafficking, drug trafficking, and other serious issues that could occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 16, 2018 Author #46 Share Posted June 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Likely Guy said: Sycophancy.. Look it up Ella.. Perfect example there. For this? It's the truth. Quote That reminds me of just how very thankful we all should be knowing that Hitlery didn't get to select any Judges for the Supreme court. I sleep so good at night knowing President Trump is in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted June 16, 2018 #47 Share Posted June 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ellapennella said: Have you considered that by having a "no tolerance policy "it prevents human trafficking, drug trafficking, and other serious issues that could occur. That's been Jeff Sessions policy for months now. Clearly it's not working, otherwise they wouldn't show up. Duh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 16, 2018 Author #48 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just now, Likely Guy said: That's been Jeff Sessions policy for months now. Clearly it's not working, otherwise they wouldn't show up. Duh. duh back at you duh think about it.Are the borders more safer now with Trump in office? Is ICE keeping us safer since Trump has been in office. I think yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted June 16, 2018 #49 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ellapennella said: duh back at you duh think about it.Are the borders more safer now with Trump in office? Is ICE keeping us safer since Trump has been in office. I think yes. You seem to question nothing. Good luck with your new overlord. Edited June 16, 2018 by Likely Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 16, 2018 Author #50 Share Posted June 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Likely Guy said: I question the latter, in general. Look at the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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