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Could intelligent aliens move entire stars ?

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paperdyer

Could be the Daleks.  They've already relocated planets.  Stars can't be far behind. Good thing we have The Doctor......or do we?  No one knows what we have.

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As such, Hooper argues, an advanced extraterrestrial race could be taking steps even now to collect and store stars as a source of energy while it is still possible for them to do so.

Argues, with who? Surely if he can find an advanced extraterrestrial race in the first place, then maybe we can have something to argue / discuss about.

 

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XenoFish

We used to collect stars but the compression process was rather, undesirable.

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Alien Origins
4 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

We used to collect stars but the compression process was rather, undesirable.

Yeah and transport was a b***h!

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XenoFish
2 minutes ago, Alien Origins said:

Yeah and transport was a b***h!

You must've been using one of the earlier models. Kinda bulky, about the size of a small moon? right? Those had all kinds of problems.

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Alien Origins
7 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

You must've been using one of the earlier models. Kinda bulky, about the size of a small moon? right? Those had all kinds of problems.

Yep..Built in 2001....

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XenoFish
18 minutes ago, Alien Origins said:

Yep..Built in 2001....

There's your problem.

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Alien Origins
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14 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

There's your problem.

Yep...Had to have the hyperdrive replaced 4 times already. Darn junky 2001 models.

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XenoFish

When you can get an alpha-omega system do so. We place the captured star in a pocket dimension, where time runs 1 million times slower. This allows us to harness a near infinite amount of power through the collection system. Plus the external power cell is roughly the size of a soda can. 

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toast

Alien civilizations who collect and store stars may charge import duties/taxes on stars from foreign clusters.

And they would sell used stars as well: "K-class Star, first hand, only 6.4B years old, new set of protuberances, price 14.587 trillion °//°<, financing available!"

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Woodwose
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For anyone interested in the science behind moving stars and "civilizations at the end of time" I can highly recommend Isaac Arthur's Youtube Channel, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFipeZtQM5CKUjx6grh54g Really fascinating stuff. 

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Ell

Advanced aliens would know that the universe does not expand.

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freetoroam
45 minutes ago, toast said:

Alien civilizations who collect and store stars may charge import duties/taxes on stars from foreign clusters.

And they would sell used stars as well: "K-class Star, first hand, only 6.4B years old, new set of protuberances, price 14.587 trillion °//°<, financing available!"

I'll take out the finance please, over 42,000 years with the reasonable rate of 8.527,451% apr.

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bison
2 hours ago, Talion78 said:

And then the wife comes home and doesn't like where you put the star and you have to move it back.....not worth the hassle.

How would you move a star.....if you are advanced enough to move a star, surely you'd be advanced enough to generate your own mini star.

The linked article, below explains how a star could be moved, using its own energy. It would probably be expedient to break up large stars into smaller ones. These are much longer-lived, and use much more of their fuel productively than large stars. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_engine

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Dejarma

could intelligent aliens move entire galaxies? 

a subject for another thread maybe?:sleepy:

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Alien Origins
31 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

could intelligent aliens move entire galaxies? 

a subject for another thread maybe?:sleepy:

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could intelligent aliens move entire galaxies? 

Thats a question for one of the ancient aliens talking heads....

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Seti42
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Phillip J. Fry managed to move several stars. I'm sure intelligent aliens could too.

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godnodog
12 hours ago, Alien Origins said:

Yep...Had to have the hyperdrive replaced 4 times already. Darn junky 2001 models.

You should try hyperjet engines one thousand.

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onlookerofmayhem

Invader Zim? Planet Jackers?

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XenoFish

On earth you do not move the universe, the universe moves you.

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DieChecker
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But how viable is this idea ? For one thing, stars don't last forever - they will eventually die - and moving them around the cosmos is not going to make them last any longer.

What's more, if a civilization is advanced enough to do this, it will almost certainly be able to find a way to generate enough energy to sustain itself without having to rely on harnessing it from stars.

Sure it is a viable idea. I think it was Archimedes who is credited with saying that if you have a large enough lever you could move the world. Which is true. A star would just be bigger.

Given that a main sequence star will be active for billions of years and given that the threat, of stars moving too far apart, is based on the order of hundreds of billions of year. I'd say it is a problem that is a bit out in the future, even at the age range of almost all current stars.

Also, given billions of years, a engineering project could be set up to "Tug" a star in a particular direction. Engineering all the materials in a solar system so that their combined gravity effect is set to peak in a single vector... and is scheduled so it remains in that direction, always... Should pull a star in a particular direction, I would think. We could do this ourselves, given millions of year prep time. And since the threat is on the order of billions of years, there would be plenty of time.

I'd disagree that a civilization advanced enough to move stars would have better energy sources. Like what? The star is pure natural resource and self moderating radiation source. Unless something comes up like the ZPM (Zero Point Module) in the Stargate TV show... then fusion (And free fusion at that) is going to be the best option as a starting resource. Sure... You can turn that fusion/star energy into antimatter, but that is just energy storage, not production.

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Dejarma
On 20/06/2018 at 8:49 PM, Talion78 said:

How would you move a star

'why'? would be a better question to ask;)

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pallidin

I'm fairly certain that the energy requirements to move a star are so extraordinarily high that... you wouldn't need to move a star.

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