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First Lady Melania Trump

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acidhead
37 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

All you have said is of a factual nature  andthen,  but it is not a chain of logic that leads inevitably to the results we have seen.

I agree with almost every word. I would say neither of us know whether these people have an interest in becoming a part of this country or not.  That I think is opinion.

But it makes no difference.  Our borders should be secure and we should decide who come in and who does not, no matter how good they might be.

 

Since this thread is about Melania, I'll start off there. She made her feelings known online.  Then she got on an airplane and went down there. Was it an orchestrated photo op?  Sure, but She Went to the site.  She chose to go there.  President Trump didn't go, Jeff Sessions didn't go, Kirstjen Neilson didn't go, Melania went.  She has more guts and the right stuff that made America great than those Yahoos.  Do I understand her coat?  No.  For all I know it was a message to Donald.  But the bottom line is she went, she exposed herself to what is going on, took some nasty pokes from the press, showed guts.The boneheaded incompetence from our leaders is what I find at fault  in this situation.

 

And you make good sense with this as well.

We  owe more than most wealthy nations  to help in this region.

I will site two reasons:  1) The Monroe Doctrine, remember that?  Europe stay out of the Americas we will handle it.

2) We have had no qualms about adventuring in these countries for the last 120 years.  We sent marines to enforce United Fruit Company concessions in Guatemala,  Remember Ollie North and the Iran Contra affair?  We caused some of the problems in the region.  We overthrew governments and bribed others.

So what is an alternative to what we have witnessed? 

Make a plan and execute it. Enforce our current laws.  Don't need Congress for this part.   100% prosecution for all businesses that hire illegal aliens.  It is an unfair advantage over other American businesses that follow the law, it is an opportunity for abuse of the people involved, and good paying work /no questions asked is a magnet for people to come.  Start there.  Could have done that a year ago.

Assemble needed personnel, immigration judges, logistics people,etc first. Then seal the border, let no one cross undetected.   If people want to apply for sanctuary, staff up the ports of entry to deal with it.  If people cross anyplace else, keep families together, put them on a plane and land them back where they started.  Do it now.

Work a deal with Central American countries,  their governments stay in power, we end corruption and gangs, and we help spur economic development, then they have free fair and outside monitored elections in two years. Get Mexico to throw in some help, they stand to gain a lot too  Assemble needed personnel; marines, military police, administrators. Start next year.  We could do something good for ourselves that is also good for our neighbors..  Side benefit is that we help develop this area instead of China.

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We have been fooling around in Korea and the Middle East for way too long.  Bring the troops home and help our neighbors get their house in order.   

 

 

The first ladies only child was threatened by a Hollywood actor!!

Sure it was reported by the press but nothing happened.

Who is she??? 

Her message was perfect.

**** you.

Exactly what anybody needs to do when confronting a bully.

She nailed it.

And weak individuals like you try and twist it into she's sending a secret message to get out of her marriage.

What a world u live in.. think for yourself.  

Make your own bed and be the best u can be .... Than you will see what is really going on.

Become the change you want to see in your eyes.

Do the hard work.  

Believe in yourself.

Do it.

Until then it's ez to see why u press enter.

U gotta look inside yourself.

You are better than this.  You have a lot more to offer. For you.

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Sir Wearer of Hats
1 hour ago, Ellapennella said:

Peter Fonda :angry: .... got a little visit from the men in black too.B)

 

 

I bloody well hope so.

you don’t ever ****ing bring in someone’s kids ehen you dislike that person.

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Likely Guy
5 hours ago, Paranormal Panther said:

It was extremely tone deaf, and her advisors should have stopped her. That aside, I can't help but think that her husband used it as a way to mess with and wind up the predictable blowhards on the large screen and the small screen. It's as if Trump is teasing a dog at this point, a lobotomized pooch that *always* takes the bait and almost always looks stupid after the dust settles. He "got their noses" once again.

One must have to ask, what possible real purpose does that serve, if that was his true intent?


 

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Likely Guy
57 minutes ago, acidhead said:

The first ladies only child was threatened by a Hollywood actor!!

Sure it was reported by the press but nothing happened.

Who is she??? 

Her message was perfect.

**** you.

Exactly what anybody needs to do when confronting a bully.

She nailed it.

And weak individuals like you try and twist it into she's sending a secret message to get out of her marriage.

What a world u live in.. think for yourself.  

Make your own bed and be the best u can be .... Than you will see what is really going on.

Become the change you want to see in your eyes.

Do the hard work.  

Believe in yourself.

Do it.

Until then it's ez to see why u press enter.

U gotta look inside yourself.

You are better than this.  You have a lot more to offer. For you.

Words of wisdom. Maybe do the same one day.

Edit: Oops, that was meant to be openly sarcastic. I failed in that regard.

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acidhead
2 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

Words of wisdom. Maybe do the same one day..

Thanks Bud..

Same to you

I try every day to be better.

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Likely Guy
2 minutes ago, acidhead said:

Thanks Bud..

Same to you

I try every day to be better.

It's just that I wish everyone could do better.

To some that's an unattainable "progressive concept". We can help each other because that's what's called co-operation.

Without co-operation we will all die. We've proved that through how many thousands of generations?

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acidhead
12 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

It's just that I wish everyone could do better.

To some that's an unattainable "progressive concept". We can help each other because that's what's called co-operation.

Without co-operation we will all die. We've proved that through how many thousands of generations?

All input is constructive.

Everybody no matter their handicap has an idea.

I agree.

 

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Likely Guy
2 minutes ago, acidhead said:

We all die... 

Hello.. is why were here to begin with.

All input is constructive.

Everybody no matter their handicap has an idea.

I agree.

 

Ah, the implied fault

Very sly.

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Setton
8 hours ago, Uncle Sam said:

I don't think people realize that Trump has been taking advantage of their predictable outrage, giving him more coverage. He misspells a word, they are all over him. He misspoke a word, they are all over him. He quotes something wrong, they are all over him. Don't get me wrong, I would do the same thing in his situation, it is smart business and smart politics. The people that are attacking him are known for lying and smearing him, so he takes advantage of that. They are so quick to lambast him and smear him, then it usually turns out he is right after research is done. Then they must apologize or retract their statements, further damaging their credibility. You think they would realize by now and start being more precautious about their outrage...

Re. Bold: Trying to work out if this is an actual mistake or if you're giving an example now... 

:D

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Setton
8 hours ago, Paranormal Panther said:

That must be why London is surpassing our major cities in violent crime. Who needs a gun when a knife will do? By the way, feel free to drive or walk through the 'hood in which I was born at midnight. You'll meet our own chavs with a tan.

I don't live in London and the question was how dangerous it is in the UK. The answer is not very. 

And if, as so many like to claim, migration was responsible for the increase in crime, Bradford would be far worse than London. 

It's almost as if other factors are more likely responsible. Like more people being willing to report crimes. Or slashed police budgets. 

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Uncle Sam
29 minutes ago, Setton said:

Re. Bold: Trying to work out if this is an actual mistake or if you're giving an example now... 

:D

I am just saying if the media actually did their research, they would not make these blunders for falling for the traps Trump lays for them. 

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Helen of Annoy
5 minutes ago, Uncle Sam said:

I am just saying if the media actually did their research, they would not make these blunders for falling for the traps Trump lays for them. 

If these were deliberate traps, Trump would know how to react when his 'traps' are laughed at. 

Just look at the contradictory claims over the Nazi jacket: she says she had no message, Trump says it was FU to the press, then it's is a message, against Zara, by buying Zara's products...

It's not particularly important if that latest dog whistle was deliberate or just out of sloppiness, the important part is how chaotic and glaringly dishonest Trump and his entourage are. 

 

 

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Setton
33 minutes ago, Uncle Sam said:

I am just saying if the media actually did their research, they would not make these blunders for falling for the traps Trump lays for them. 

(precautions isn't a real word is what I was getting at) :D

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Uncle Sam
23 minutes ago, Setton said:

(precautions isn't a real word is what I was getting at) :D

It was a typo, I am allowed to make typos.

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Setton
3 hours ago, Uncle Sam said:

It was a typo, I am allowed to make typos.

Oh never mind. The irony is obviously way over your head if you can only get offended at it. 

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Big Jim

Trying to interpret or explain what Melania was trying to do with the jacket is like trying to explain art.  Many interpretations are possible and on different levels.  None may be correct or an accurate description of what the artist had in mind.  Words are usually inadequate.  Just like with any other type of art, some will like it and some will think it's trash.  You either get it or you don't.

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Uncle Sam
1 hour ago, Setton said:

Oh never mind. The irony is obviously way over your head if you can only get offended at it. 

Actually the irony didn't go over my head and I am not offended. >.>

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Blizno
On 6/21/2018 at 11:41 AM, Ellapennella said:

 Trump is not a Monster. 

 

 

Of course Trump is a monster! How can you keep your eyes and ears clamped so tightly shut?

 

Look at everything he says and does. Give him no slack because he is mentally ill. He is the president and must face the strictest of standards.

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Blizno
On 6/21/2018 at 12:15 PM, seanjo said:

Their families shouldn't smuggle them illegally across an international border then. Blame the parents and the parent country not the country being assaulted by these illegals.

And this justifies torturing children?

There is NO justification for torturing children EVER! This is evil. This must stop at once! For shame trying to justify brutalizing children! For shame!

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MWoo7
12 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Since this thread is about Melania, I'll start off there. She made her feelings known online.  Then she got on an airplane and went down there. Was it an orchestrated photo op?  Sure, but She Went to the site.  She chose to go there.  President Trump didn't go, Jeff Sessions didn't go, Kirstjen Neilson didn't go, Melania went.  She has more guts and the right stuff that made America great than those Yahoos.  Do I understand her coat?  No.  For all I know it was a message to Donald.  But the bottom line is she went, she exposed herself to what is going on, took some nasty pokes from the press, showed guts.The boneheaded incompetence from our leaders is what I find at fault  in this situation.

President Melania eh!???! 635954515453414577-Melania-Trump.jpg

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Big Jim
43 minutes ago, Blizno said:

And this justifies torturing children?

There is NO justification for torturing children EVER! This is evil. This must stop at once! For shame trying to justify brutalizing children! For shame!

If separating children from their parents and feeding and clothing and caring for them qualifies as torture then it goes on every day in every state in the country.  Whenever a parent is arrested, families are separated.  The parent is kept in jail while the children are sent to children's services if there are no other options.  When children are found to be in unsafe conditions they are removed from the home and again cared for by children's services.  The facilities and quality of care varies from county to county, resulting in thousands of different conditions, some no doubt similar to or worse than what is at the border.  Any child whose parent took them on an unplanned and unfunded journey on foot across inhospitable territory with only the clothes on their back would be deemed to be in unsafe conditions, possibly resulting in charges against the parent, thereby providing two reasons for separating them.  

There are 87 counties in Minnesota.  Are you absolutely certain that what you deem as torture is not happening closer to home?  Have you made similar charges against them or contacted your state representatives?  Or have you been silent because President Trump is not directly involved in them?  

 

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On 6/21/2018 at 4:00 PM, NicoletteS said:

That jacket is appalling to wear in that situation it's not an accident. Disgusting.

This was a tweet by Trump.

“I REALLY DON’T CARE, DO U?” written on the back of Melania’s jacket, refers to the Fake News Media. Melania has learned how dishonest they are, and she truly no longer cares!

 
I'm having bumper stickers made.  THIS should become the rally-cry of those in this nation that are sick and fed up with the toxic media bias that is choking civility in this nation.  They HAVE to be stopped or it's going to end badly for a lot of people.
 
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seanjo
1 hour ago, Blizno said:

And this justifies torturing children?

There is NO justification for torturing children EVER! This is evil. This must stop at once! For shame trying to justify brutalizing children! For shame!

No one is torturing Children. Hyperbole much? 

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Uncle Sam
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White House Press Secretary Sanders was thrown out of a Virginia restaurant on Friday because she works for President Trump -- the latest Trump official to be hounded out of a restaurant because of their political affiliation.

TMZ reported that she was kicked out of the restaurant -- The Red Hen in Lexington, Virginia -- on “moral grounds” and cited a waiter who said that Sanders was served “for a total of two minutes before my owner kicked her out along with seven of her other family members.”

Sarah kicked out of Restaurant

 

Due to the constant slandering, the defamation, as well as straight up false rhetoric from the liberal left and the mainstream media; this is what everything has lead too. Treating people with contempt and hatred, making their life a living hell. When is people going to realize their actions is wrong? All this hyperbole and slanders is getting out of hand, it is destroying people's lives regardless who they are.

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Setton
2 hours ago, Uncle Sam said:

Actually the irony didn't go over my head and I am not offended. >.>

OK then. 

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