freetoroam Posted July 5, 2018 #51 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Another person drawn in by religion, the book in their mouth and their head up their ass. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais_one Posted July 5, 2018 Author #52 Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 hours ago, freetoroam said: Another person drawn in by religion, the book in their mouth and their head up their ass. are you referring to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted July 5, 2018 #53 Share Posted July 5, 2018 39 minutes ago, Kais_one said: are you referring to me? I am referering to all those who still believe in books written by men who rode about on camels , and married girls as young as 9, we have moved on from that in civilised societies. If you want to believe in a god, fine, but your existance on this planet has nothing to do with fantasy gods....it is about time people started looking at themselves today and what you can learn from history, reading these books can be interesting, but they have no place in our modern world other than in a museum. Have you ideas about living your life without it being dictated to you through ancient scripts? Do you pray when it tells you to? Do you not eat certain things because it tells you not to? Do you dress a certain way? Do you have a mind of your own? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podo Posted July 5, 2018 #54 Share Posted July 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Kais_one said: I have proved anything that I needed to prove... Except that you haven't, even by your own admission. You don't speak Arabic, so your Arabic sources are disingenuous at best and straight-up fabrications at worst. So which is it? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted July 5, 2018 #55 Share Posted July 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Kais_one said: I have proved anything that I needed to prove... If you know Arabic ..... يمكنك ترغيب هذا؟ بدون استخدام google 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais_one Posted July 6, 2018 Author #56 Share Posted July 6, 2018 19 hours ago, Essan said: If you know Arabic ..... يمكنك ترغيب هذا؟ بدون استخدام google then...…………..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais_one Posted July 6, 2018 Author #57 Share Posted July 6, 2018 19 hours ago, Podo said: Except that you haven't, even by your own admission. You don't speak Arabic, so your Arabic sources are disingenuous at best and straight-up fabrications at worst. So which is it? as I said, I have nothing to prove...I know enough Arabic to get by on reading the quran etc. none of my thinking is fabricated....I suggest if you have doubts then you work it out on your own... I am sure you will come to the same findings as me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podo Posted July 6, 2018 #58 Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Kais_one said: as I said, I have nothing to prove...I know enough Arabic to get by on reading the quran etc. none of my thinking is fabricated....I suggest if you have doubts then you work it out on your own... I am sure you will come to the same findings as me You really don't know how this whole "proof" thing works, do you? You have made a claim, but you have not substantiated it, proven it, or done anything but declare yourself infallible. Only three kinds of people do that: liars, idiots, and children who join this site during summer vacation. Which are you? Edited July 6, 2018 by Podo 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted July 6, 2018 #59 Share Posted July 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Kais_one said: then...…………..? No, that's not what it says لا أعتقد أنك تستطيع قراءة العربية على الإطلاق 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted July 6, 2018 #60 Share Posted July 6, 2018 48 minutes ago, Essan said: No, that's not what it says لا أعتقد أنك تستطيع قراءة العربية على الإطلاق Probably Google's fault jmccr8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted July 6, 2018 #61 Share Posted July 6, 2018 7 hours ago, Kais_one said: none of my thinking is fabricated.... Sorry sugar, but ALL of your thinking IS fabricated. You have reached and stretched to make facts fit your daydream. And as for the title of this thread "Whom to Believe...???", not you cupcake. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais_one Posted July 7, 2018 Author #62 Share Posted July 7, 2018 9 hours ago, Jodie.Lynne said: Sorry sugar, but ALL of your thinking IS fabricated. You have reached and stretched to make facts fit your daydream. And as for the title of this thread "Whom to Believe...???", not you cupcake. I aint asking you to believe me cupcake...its either the quran or history? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted July 7, 2018 #63 Share Posted July 7, 2018 10 hours ago, Kais_one said: its either the quran or history or the delusions of a misguided mind. And I'm leaning towards the third option... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthseeker007 Posted July 7, 2018 #64 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 7/4/2018 at 2:05 PM, Kais_one said: you don't need a degree to state the truth....I have seen the truth ...and most don't like it! With degrees come a lot of dogma by the so called education system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted July 7, 2018 #65 Share Posted July 7, 2018 What age Aisha was when she was consummated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted July 8, 2018 #66 Share Posted July 8, 2018 On 1/07/2018 at 3:22 AM, Kais_one said: my reasoning is not all over the place.... my post which you are referring to suggests that the surah in question is actually referring to Sirius... if you have evidence that it isn't the case then feel free to post It shows you're incapable of coherent thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted July 8, 2018 #67 Share Posted July 8, 2018 BTW, I believe in Karlsson-on-the-Roof. Blogger Volnov had shown - there are no moderate muslims. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted July 19, 2018 #68 Share Posted July 19, 2018 On 08/07/2018 at 7:50 AM, Truthseeker007 said: With degrees come a lot of dogma by the so called education system. Unlike religious texts? With degrees come the understanding of substantiating claims with evidence. The postulation of a theorem. And the understanding that scrutiny and skepticism are essential in learning. If I can be skeptical and scrutinize my own work, I can be certain I have studied it as best I can. Without falling victim to the Dunning Kruger effect. If I can be skeptical and scrutinize other people's work. I won't fall victim to charlatans. There is an ancient proverb about having an open mind. And it goes along the lines of, "The trouble with having an open mind is that people will try and put things in it", or "if your mind is too open your brains might fall out". 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 19, 2018 #69 Share Posted July 19, 2018 55 minutes ago, Kismit said: having an open mind. I've seen that term enough to know it actually means : To see things my way. Plus it's also like a sly insult depending on usage. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted July 19, 2018 #70 Share Posted July 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, XenoFish said: I've seen that term enough to know it actually means : To see things my way. Plus it's also like a sly insult depending on usage. Perhaps that is how some might use it. A mind should be open to possibilities but guarded by scrutiny and skepticism. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 19, 2018 #71 Share Posted July 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kismit said: A mind should be open to possibilities but guarded by scrutiny and skepticism. To have an open mind is the be able to criticize ideas. Under scrutiny and skepticism. Digging into what is and what isn't. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted July 19, 2018 #72 Share Posted July 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, XenoFish said: To have an open mind is the be able to criticize ideas. Under scrutiny and skepticism. Digging into what is and what isn't. Yes. This is the point of an open mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 19, 2018 #73 Share Posted July 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kismit said: Yes. This is the point of an open mind. Having an open mind around here is a bad thing apparently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted July 19, 2018 #74 Share Posted July 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Having an open mind around here is a bad thing apparently. It depends on someone's use of the term. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted July 19, 2018 #75 Share Posted July 19, 2018 To be open-minded does not necessitate one being empty-headed. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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