Menhir Posted July 1, 2018 #126 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) Quick Farmer: is that a "Single Action Rifle" he's shooting and explain your answer. Edited July 1, 2018 by Menhir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted July 1, 2018 #127 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Menhir said: No you couldn't (and didn't) because "single action rifle" isn't really a legitimate term. Sigh ….. 4 minutes ago, Menhir said: My intention is not to show how 'smart' I am since it's very basic, elementary knowledge but rather to highlight how you don't know the most basic facts about guns, how they function, etc. Sigh …... 4 minutes ago, Menhir said: It's people like you pontificating about "common sense gun laws with reasonable restrictions" while flying a false flag of being a gun owner "professionally trained in their use" blah blah blah...when in reality you know as much about guns as Obama demonstrated in his cornhole "Ah'm a gonna shoot dis heah shotgun to show Ah'm a red-blooded, gun-toting, 2nd Amendment-spouting American you all can trust!" photo op. Sigh...…….. Quote Single action (SA) refers to any firearm that must be manually cocked before each shot. In such guns, the trigger performs a single function (releasing the hammer to fire the gun), thus the "single" in the name. Single action most often applies to handguns, but may also refer to long guns (rifles and shotguns) as well. Do you feel better yet? I mean I really don't mind being here for you to vent but its only healthy if its calming your nerves. Edited July 1, 2018 by Farmer77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menhir Posted July 1, 2018 #128 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: Sigh ….. Sigh …... Sigh...…….. Post the link to your quote with its invalid definition of "single action". It's presenting false information so I want to help you understand why you should only seek out valid, reputable sources. Here's a reputable, accurate and CORRECT online explanation of what single action means as pertains to handguns: http://concealednation.org/2015/02/beginners-guide-single-action-dasa-or-dao-which-one-is-right-for-you/ Edited July 1, 2018 by Menhir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted July 1, 2018 #129 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, Menhir said: Post the link to your quote with it's invalid definition of "single action". do the googling yourself chief, I believe I provided the link to that for you earlier 1 minute ago, Menhir said: Here's a reputable, accurate and CORRECT online explanation of what single action means as pertains to handguns: Hey thanks for the link it was an interesting read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 1, 2018 #130 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menhir Posted July 1, 2018 #131 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: do the googling yourself chief, I believe I provided the link to that for you earlier. No, you posted a link to Google home page. Regardless, a quote by someone as ignorant of guns as you only helps validate your ignorance to you. Edited July 1, 2018 by Menhir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted July 1, 2018 #132 Share Posted July 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, Menhir said: Quick Farmer: is that a "Single Action Rifle" he's shooting and explain your answer. Well, it doesn’t fold the washing or pick up after the dog, so yes as firing bullets is it’s only job I’d call it a “single action rifle” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted July 1, 2018 #133 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Menhir said: No, you posted a link to Google home page. Comprehension is important. Thats what I was telling you. Edited July 1, 2018 by Farmer77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted July 1, 2018 #134 Share Posted July 1, 2018 7 hours ago, pallidin said: The US government is not your enemy, people. We are compassionate, yet firm on issues which affect societal stability. Not your enemy, but equally not your friend. No government, anywhere, ever is the friend of the people. At best it is the servant of the people. At worst it’s Master. The government is empowered by the people to enact within established frameworks what is necessary for the current safety and future security of the people who elected those individuals in the government to their offices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menhir Posted July 1, 2018 #135 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, Farmer77 said: Comprehension is important...…...thats what I was telling you. No, you were telling me how you "...don't give a flying **** about home defense." Then you proceeded to babble about "single action rifles" being appropriate for private ownership So: does your emotionally distraught wife (as you say) know that you belive you should own a semi-auto AR15 or AK47? Wow, I bet she WOULD make you sell the guns then, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ZZ. Posted July 1, 2018 #136 Share Posted July 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: do the googling yourself chief, I believe I provided the link to that for you earlier Hey thanks for the link it was an interesting read. Hey amigo, What's that expression I hear? "PWNED" Just busting your chops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menhir Posted July 1, 2018 #137 Share Posted July 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Not your enemy, but equally not your friend. No government, anywhere, ever is the friend of the people. At best it is the servant of the people. At worst it’s Master. The government is empowered by the people to enact within established frameworks what is necessary for the current safety and future security of the people who elected those individuals in the government to their offices. "We're from the government and we're here to help you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menhir Posted July 1, 2018 #138 Share Posted July 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Well, it doesn’t fold the washing or pick up after the dog, so yes as firing bullets is it’s only job I’d call it a “single action rifle” Sounds like the wife.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted July 1, 2018 #139 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, .ZZ. said: Hey amigo, What's that expression I hear? "PWNED" Just busting your chops Yes I will now retreat to my cave of shame This dude's a riot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted July 1, 2018 #140 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, Menhir said: Sounds like the wife.... Ahhhh ok so THAT explains the attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menhir Posted July 1, 2018 #141 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: Ahhhh ok so THAT explains the attitude I was referring to your wife whom you describe as having emotional issues...so yeah, that probably does explain some things Edited July 1, 2018 by Menhir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menhir Posted July 1, 2018 #142 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Farmer77 said: "IMO there should be regional and local militia programs, completely separate from the state and federal governments, which one must enlist and drill regularly with to have access to anything beyond a revolver and single action shotgun." "A single action shotgun is what happens when you're torn between typing single action rifle and pump action shotgun and your fingers work faster than your brain." "In this case the context was guns, specifically anything beyond a single action shotgun (said that just for you big guy ) or revolver." The "context" was private ownership of guns...so now you are saying that private citizens shouldn't own ANY type of rifle. Is that correct? You keep jumping back and forth between single action shotguns and single action revolvers and blah blah blah...I don't think you even know what you mean. I know you really don't know that much if anything about guns from any sort of practical experience.... but you can't seem to articulate a coherent argument with consistent talking points. You remind me of a help desk rep sitting at a computer in another country who can only read the prepared script. Any questions not covered in the standard FAQ throws "Suzy" (yeah right) into a tailspin. You're obviously anti-gun and believe confiscation of ALL guns is the thing to do. You hit most of the talking points against private ownership of guns including - invoking THE CHILDREN via "protection of innocents from slaughter"...including how your own child has been threatened 4x this year (personalize the issue and invoke empathy if not sympathy argumentum ad misericordiam) - a dig on 'keeping guns out of the hands of children and the mentally volatile'...including an off-the-cuff reference to your mentally unstable wife (personalize the issue and demonstrate what your "responsible behavior" that should be emulated looks like) - you feign ignorance of would-be gun grabbers like Obana, Clinton, Feinstein, Holder, etc. advocating gun confiscation and when presented with direct quotes try various "That's not what they said" or "Not what they meant" obfuscations abd non sequitur (i.e. Obama lamented Congress and the people wouldn't allow that...as if that negates what he advocates) - offer yourself up as someone who is actually FOR the Second Ammendment but interpreted as applying to militias run so stringently that you admit they wouldn't exist (which would be the intent) with "reasonable restrictions" on the types of guns private citizens can own blah blah blah...In other words, let's draw a line via new restrictions and make it the new norm...and then later, move it to the left with even more restrictions. Etc. Edited July 1, 2018 by Menhir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted July 1, 2018 #143 Share Posted July 1, 2018 58 minutes ago, Menhir said: Sounds like the wife.... Your wife fires bullets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menhir Posted July 1, 2018 #144 Share Posted July 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Your wife fires bullets? Nah...I was referring to the wife someone else here complained about. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menhir Posted July 2, 2018 #145 Share Posted July 2, 2018 9 hours ago, pallidin said: No. That's just irresponsibly paranoid in my opinion. Yeah, 'cause like gun confiscation has never preceded dictatorships/murderous regimes....well, except Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Communist China, Socialist Russia, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Idi Amin's Uganda.... What could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted July 2, 2018 #146 Share Posted July 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Menhir said: Yeah, 'cause like gun confiscation has never preceded dictatorships/murderous regimes....well, except Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Communist China, Socialist Russia, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Idi Amin's Uganda.... What could possibly go wrong? You. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 2, 2018 #147 Share Posted July 2, 2018 9 hours ago, Menhir said: https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/05/nolte-close-america-outright-gun-confiscation-close/ The quotes by Obama and Clinton are readily verifiable across the internet. And before someone says"Oh but they weren't talking about confiscating ALL types of guns, only high capacity assault weapons." that's obviously not true since they clearly want to emulate the confiscation programs of the UK and Australia. A review of those nations' gun laws show that in Australia, for example, private ownership of a handgun is restricted to the point of being nearly non-existent: https://ssaa.org.au/news-resources/research-archive/handgun-ownership-facts-in-australia And that includes ALL types of handguns...even airguns. The Category H restrictions were enacted after the Monash University shooting. The "bad guy" with a gun was stopped by "good guys" without guns. With two fatalities and five wounded it isn't mentioned as a major shooting. Yet it precipitated federal and state legislative change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menhir Posted July 2, 2018 #148 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Likely Guy said: You. Well, since I have no intention of participating in a gun confiscation program, there's no way I "could possibly go wrong". :-) But if you mean I just generally scare you, then sure: when you stare into the abyss of your fear, I'll be there staring back. Ooooooo....... LOL 5 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: The Category H restrictions were enacted after the Monash University shooting. The "bad guy" with a gun was stopped by "good guys" without guns. With two fatalities and five wounded it isn't mentioned as a major shooting. Yet it precipitated federal and state legislative change. And-? So-? Edited July 2, 2018 by Menhir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted July 2, 2018 #149 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Menhir said: But if you mean I just generally scare you, then sure: when you stare into the abyss Wow. That sounds 'screwed up'. How long have you had these fantasies? Edited July 2, 2018 by Likely Guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 2, 2018 #150 Share Posted July 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, Menhir said: ... And-? So-? So... what? Just added some detail to something you brought up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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