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Egypt, was it already there?

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Piney
10 hours ago, Kenemet said:

Have you ever taken basic earth science?  Gone on rock hunting trips?  Dug for fossils with a paleontology team?

What, exactly have you observed and compared?  Have you walked on the Giant's Causeway or other such areas?  Have you gone to Devil's Tower?  Collected samples of the layers of different types of stone in a canyon?  Can you tell coquina from marl from 40 feet away?

I asked some of these questions and never got a answer.......

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Harte
6 hours ago, Coil said:

Well, if you are interested in the fact that minerals grow and therefore exhibit primitive plant life. And since the tree of the Devil's Tower is an earlier example of plant life on earth than the current trees, it is an example of a relict tree form.


He used magnetic force because he could see the magnetic fields of the earth that our scientists do not see .. so do not know how to apply magnetic gravity not to the attraction but to transfer stone blocks.In his estate no lifting devices were found.

 

Symbols exist since the time when the universe was formed and the solar system only in civilizations they were imprinted when we developed the writing but they indicate in what state the planet is in.

The symbol of our time is the cross (immersion in the material) that can be found everywhere in the churches and before entering a certain city and the crucifixion of Christ (Spirit) by matter (ignorant people)

 


I have already said that in order to understand something, it does not have to be somewhere in your hands. You do not check all the knowledge that you gave in the school personally. By the way, regarding Giant's Causeway, there is no near any volcano, there are small mountains and everything. So the theory that the volcano is the cause of congestion is incorrect. In other places where such polygonal stones meet, there are also no volcanoes nearby, so there is absolutely nothing to do with volcanic origin.

Goodbye.

Wouldn't have happened had your woo milk been a little sweeter.

Harte

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kmt_sesh
Just now, Harte said:

Goodbye.

Wouldn't have happened had your woo milk been a little sweeter.

Harte

I guess that woo milk was too sour.

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Harte

Chunky. And not chunky with blueberries.

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Bennu
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About Coral Castle, there's a video that shows him actually doing the lifting and moving. It's rare footage apparently, but he used the chain hoist to lift it and a ratchet jack to pull it, showed him right there pulling on the ratchet handle. The generator, by the way, only was used for demonstrations to visitors and only put out enough power to light a low wattage light bulb. He obviously had to spend a lot of time on it but it was certainly possible without any magic or secret technology.

As for the Egyptian pyramid builders, the limestone in the quarries was naturally formed in layers, separated by thin layers of mud. They didn't have to dig under them, just lift them right off. That's why the various layers of core stones have varying thickness but uniform over that full layer. Each stage of the pyramid was made from a separate layer of the deposit, though more than one stage would probably have used stones from the same layer, which is why some stages are similar thickness to others. You can see the natural layers yourself in photos of the quarry walls. So much of the labor normally required to quarry stone was eliminated and it may also explain why the courses match up so well that you can't put a knife between them, even though it's just core stones that nobody would ever see. They were on top each other when they were harvested so obviously they would fit perfectly when stacked back together.

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Coil
13 hours ago, Oniomancer said:

The top layer was felled and the lower one turned into sand as well as the stump rot into trash with the time when life left it.

But there are cases when the layers are preserved well and a multi-layer structure is visible which has turned into stone of different density and composition.

Watch this video there the layers are petrified and some are showered in the hands:

5.25 -11.52m:

 

12 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

Except the hoists are there in the tool shed at Coral Castle.

Where do you get your information from?

 

He experimented a lot but these devices do not move large stones. Also, Lidsalnin himself said that he found the secret of the construction of the Egyptian pyramids. He visited the library and read a lot about the pyramid. In his book he wrote that the device of the atom of scientists does not correspond to reality:

Spoiler

Physicists tell that each atom which builds up the Zinc has thirty protons,and thirty electrons,but when the Zinc is taken into parts by the acid in a battery,then only the North and South pole individual magents are coming out of the battery,and not a single proton and electron shows up. From this you can see the physicists are basing their thoughts on non-existng things.

Radio waves are not waves; they are North and South pole individual magnets
which are coming out of a transformer of the secondary winding's coil ends, one-half
going up in the air and the other half in the ground in inreasing and decreasing
numbers. The numbers are regulated by the transmitting tube, and the speed by
voltage. The increasing and decreasing magnet numbers cause the receiver's antenna
to generate a tiny current to start the amplification to reproduce the original
broadcast. The magnets are not running up to ionosphere and down again, but are
running horizontally until they are lost. Those magnets which go up to the
ionosphere never come back as radio waves to the receiver, they only cause the
ionosphere magnets to come back to earth as the radar waves. Magnets do not run in
the way the radio waves drawings show.

Geologists do not know what gravitation is, and what causes earthquakes and
mountains. Perpertual transformations is going on with the earth all the time. When
the atoms burst in the middle of the earth, the magnets are running out from the
middle, and so cause gravitation by attracting the matter that is in front of them, and
when the many magnets have come out, then there will be contraction that will cause
earthquakes and mountains.

Astronomers do not know what causes seasons: All planets and the sun have
magnet poles. The magnet poles are pushing and pulling the earth in axis way. The
earth's summer end is always a stronger magnet pole than the winter end, and that
causes the earth to slide axis way and make the seasons.

Physicists are using one-sided equipment to chase the non-existing protons and
electrons, but are neglecting the North and South pole magnets, which are the base
for everything.
All branches of science lack a sound base. Electrical engineers know how to make
and manage electricity, but they do not know what electricity is, and how it runs in
the wire. Without knowing it they have no sound base to stand on.

http://www.shamanicengineering.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Magnetic-Current-Ed-Leedskalnin.pdf

 

 

11 hours ago, Kenemet said:

Actually, it's the product of the shape of atoms themselves.  Not plants.  I'm not sure what you define as a plant, but to the rest of us it's a carbon based lifeform that uses photosynthesis (I'm simplifying.)

Everything is alive and if the atoms move it is also a manifestation of life and this life awakens from the dream of matter in evolution.
 

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Ed (as it says in his biographies and many other places) moved stones by winch and by truck.  He didn't own any trucks but frequently borrowed friends' trucks.  And scientists see magnetic forces of the Earth and in the Earth... it's pretty simple to measure.


 

The truck only carried the stones to another place and how Ed sank rocks on the truck no one saw.
What did the neighbors see in his estate:

Spoiler

Once the neighbor's boys tried to unravela puzzle of construction, stole his father's night vision device. The guys climbed onto the roof of their house and watched the work of Edward. There was no limit to their astonishment. Later the boys said that Edward Lidskalnin himself was on the site, and the movement of huge stone blocks occurred without his participation. Multitone pieces of coral limestone literally floated through the air like balloons.

There is evidence of another neighbor who allegedly saw Lidskalnin singing to the stones. According to her, the guy put his hands on them, and then made a lingering sound.

https://play-azlab.com/obrazovanie/81113-edvard-lidskalnin-i-ego-tainstvennyy-zamok.html

 

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It's the result of an ancient volcano.  The remains of the volcano are still there, but eroded and covered up. 

 

I want to offer some photos of plants and Giant's Causeway for comparison.

Cactus in the bark:
sahua3b.jpg

the cactus without bark:
sahua4b.jpg


Cross section of the trunk of the native California fan palm (Washingtonia filifera) showing scattered vascular bundles. The large cells (pores) in the vascular bundles are vessels:

palmva1b.jpg

Compare with Giant's Causeway where the same longitudinal vessels are visible:

fiolent5.jpg

 

 

"The hierarchical structure and mechanics of plant materials"

Pay attention to the page 13  (2761, drawing -с )

http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/panels_ajax_tab/roysoc_tab_pdf/node:6607/1


and compare the figure with polygons of Giant's Causeway:


giants_steps.jpg


Multilevel layers of the Giant's Causeway

gc3.jpg


here is the longitudinal cut of the plant:

encyclopediyaRU-35_063-1.jpg
R_3_5_clip_image001.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

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Gaden
4 hours ago, Coil said:

The top layer was felled and the lower one turned into sand as well as the stump rot into trash with the time when life left it.

But there are cases when the layers are preserved well and a multi-layer structure is visible which has turned into stone of different density and composition.

Watch this video there the layers are petrified and some are showered in the hands:

5.25 -11.52m:

 

He experimented a lot but these devices do not move large stones. Also, Lidsalnin himself said that he found the secret of the construction of the Egyptian pyramids. He visited the library and read a lot about the pyramid. In his book he wrote that the device of the atom of scientists does not correspond to reality:

  Reveal hidden contents

Physicists tell that each atom which builds up the Zinc has thirty protons,and thirty electrons,but when the Zinc is taken into parts by the acid in a battery,then only the North and South pole individual magents are coming out of the battery,and not a single proton and electron shows up. From this you can see the physicists are basing their thoughts on non-existng things.

Radio waves are not waves; they are North and South pole individual magnets
which are coming out of a transformer of the secondary winding's coil ends, one-half
going up in the air and the other half in the ground in inreasing and decreasing
numbers. The numbers are regulated by the transmitting tube, and the speed by
voltage. The increasing and decreasing magnet numbers cause the receiver's antenna
to generate a tiny current to start the amplification to reproduce the original
broadcast. The magnets are not running up to ionosphere and down again, but are
running horizontally until they are lost. Those magnets which go up to the
ionosphere never come back as radio waves to the receiver, they only cause the
ionosphere magnets to come back to earth as the radar waves. Magnets do not run in
the way the radio waves drawings show.

Geologists do not know what gravitation is, and what causes earthquakes and
mountains. Perpertual transformations is going on with the earth all the time. When
the atoms burst in the middle of the earth, the magnets are running out from the
middle, and so cause gravitation by attracting the matter that is in front of them, and
when the many magnets have come out, then there will be contraction that will cause
earthquakes and mountains.

Astronomers do not know what causes seasons: All planets and the sun have
magnet poles. The magnet poles are pushing and pulling the earth in axis way. The
earth's summer end is always a stronger magnet pole than the winter end, and that
causes the earth to slide axis way and make the seasons.

Physicists are using one-sided equipment to chase the non-existing protons and
electrons, but are neglecting the North and South pole magnets, which are the base
for everything.
All branches of science lack a sound base. Electrical engineers know how to make
and manage electricity, but they do not know what electricity is, and how it runs in
the wire. Without knowing it they have no sound base to stand on.

http://www.shamanicengineering.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Magnetic-Current-Ed-Leedskalnin.pdf

 

 

Everything is alive and if the atoms move it is also a manifestation of life and this life awakens from the dream of matter in evolution.
 

The truck only carried the stones to another place and how Ed sank rocks on the truck no one saw.
What did the neighbors see in his estate:

  Reveal hidden contents

Once the neighbor's boys tried to unravela puzzle of construction, stole his father's night vision device. The guys climbed onto the roof of their house and watched the work of Edward. There was no limit to their astonishment. Later the boys said that Edward Lidskalnin himself was on the site, and the movement of huge stone blocks occurred without his participation. Multitone pieces of coral limestone literally floated through the air like balloons.

There is evidence of another neighbor who allegedly saw Lidskalnin singing to the stones. According to her, the guy put his hands on them, and then made a lingering sound.

https://play-azlab.com/obrazovanie/81113-edvard-lidskalnin-i-ego-tainstvennyy-zamok.html

 

I want to offer some photos of plants and Giant's Causeway for comparison.

Cactus in the bark:
sahua3b.jpg

the cactus without bark:
sahua4b.jpg


Cross section of the trunk of the native California fan palm (Washingtonia filifera) showing scattered vascular bundles. The large cells (pores) in the vascular bundles are vessels:

palmva1b.jpg

Compare with Giant's Causeway where the same longitudinal vessels are visible:

fiolent5.jpg

 

 

"The hierarchical structure and mechanics of plant materials"

Pay attention to the page 13  (2761, drawing -с )

http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/panels_ajax_tab/roysoc_tab_pdf/node:6607/1


and compare the figure with polygons of Giant's Causeway:


giants_steps.jpg


Multilevel layers of the Giant's Causeway

gc3.jpg


here is the longitudinal cut of the plant:

encyclopediyaRU-35_063-1.jpg
R_3_5_clip_image001.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

Your plant drawings all show cell structure, but the rock does not. Crystalline structure is not a theory or an opinion. You can play your pretend games all you want, but your arguments will not change any ones mind. You make points that would not convince a child, let alone any one with any more than two digits I.Q.

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Oniomancer
5 hours ago, Coil said:

The top layer was felled and the lower one turned into sand as well as the stump rot into trash with the time when life left it.

But there are cases when the layers are preserved well and a multi-layer structure is visible which has turned into stone of different density and composition.

Watch this video there the layers are petrified and some are showered in the hands:

5.25 -11.52m:

 

It's a completely different type of rock. Glacial deposits in fact. Fossilization doesn't work that way. And you're ignoring all my other points and more besides, like how one fells a tree 174 acres at the base.

Took you long enough to finally trot out one of those videos. I have neither the time nor the inclination to sit through this gibberish especially when it doesn't even purport to be in english.but it looks like more of the same the rest show, argument based on superficial resemblance between unrelated structures.  This particular one is laughable because they're talking about layered units of rock on geological scale, which cover entire multiple states sometimes, as if they were discrete individual objects. Explain, please, if these selfsame layers are fossils themselves, how they happen to entrap other fossils and debris of different ages and compositions in their millions, including ocean life?

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jaylemurph

Coil, you're making a shameful spectacle of yourself and your fundamental scientific ignorance.

What's your plan? To somehow use your basic ignorance of a scientific field to prove that field is wrong? If so, your plan is flawed from the source. You can't use ignorance to prove anything other than your tolerance for being called ignorant. If you can't get anyone -- anyone -- here to believe you, what  do you think is going to happen when you talk to further professional academics in the real world? They don't have the time or inclination to talk to people who don't know what they're talking about and who choose not to lean anything more.

Maybe you don't realize it, but you came here in the hopes we would all recognize your "real" genius in understanding how geology really works.

That's not happening. That's not going to happen.

We get people like you almost daily. Without exception, after a few weeks of refusing to learn anything, they sulk off, usually throwing a neat little fit as they do so. When shoudl we pencil in your tantrum?

--Jaylemurph

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Harte
3 hours ago, Gaden said:

your arguments will not change any ones mind. You make points that would not convince a child, let alone any one with any more than two digits I.Q.

And that's if you round to the nearest hundred.

Harte

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kmt_sesh

I see little point in this thread continuing. Everyone has veered far way from the OP, and the OP himself has done almost nothing to sustain the discussion.

And now we have someone trolling that Devil's Tower is an ancient tree stump. We need not nourish such blatant absurdity.

Thread closed.

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