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Black Red Devil
2 hours ago, Vlad the Mighty said:

There's not really very much difference: Conservatives = Republicans (right-wing dinosaurs); Labour (with a U) = Democrats (who wish to impose a totalitarian socialist dictatorship); various other parties that exist just the split the vote for one or other of the main ones (the "Liberal Democrats" , who are basically a watered down Democrats), or just to make a nuisance of themselves, such as Nigel Fromage's Brexit party

We're down under here and do things upside down so we decided to call our right wing the Liberal Party. :P

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Black Red Devil
4 hours ago, Vlad the Mighty said:

and let's not overlook that the Trump is without a doubt under the control of a foreign leader, in fact more than one, there's no question about it - but those foreign leaders' names are Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu and Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud,

You forgot Vlad the mighty (not you, your double).

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On ‎13‎/‎07‎/‎2018 at 5:44 AM, Farmer77 said:

We must never forget that Hitler and Mussolini were Democratically elected or made dictators.

Back in the 1930s the far-left were totally unable to accept Hitler as the German leader. Just like how they cannot accept Trump now in the USA. So when the constant media attacks, church criticism, and rioting failed to get rid of him, they upped their anti. Two far-left people (with support from their far-left parties) tried to murder off Hitler and his coalition government by planting a firebomb in the Reichstag which burned the building to the ground.

Now of course, the far-left like to promote themselves as sweet and innocent good guys doing what is morally right. Because of that they lie and distort about what went down at the Reichstag. Unfortunately the terrorism was investigated by the German police (before there was a dictatorship), their role in the terrorism was established with evidence, and as a result in the next Parliamentary session a majority of politicians voted to give Hitler dictatorial powers so he could go and stomp out the far-left terrorist threat which he promptly did.

The danger of Trump becoming dictator is actually a danger of the far-left who cannot accept him as President. They have rioted, demonstrated, constantly harassed him trying to get rid of him for impeachment and corruption, and all it takes is for one far-left nut to try blowing up the White House and the USA has its first dictator.

The far-left are the problem, they are dangerous and are incapable of seeing the consequences to their actions.

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Oh, there is a trial run for fascism happening, it just isn't the people you think is doing it. It is the Democrats and Far Left, with the aid of the social media giants who have a duopoly of the internet. This is no longer an argument or opinion debate, it is an issue of civil rights being violated. Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Instagram, Mastercard, Chase Bank, and a few others are banning or eliminating people's ability to exist in this society because they won't bend a knee, they oppose their actions, or that they don't ascribe to their same political ideology. When you take away a person's ability to speak or to even do business in the country, you only leave them one option and that option is violence. These people are the main driving force that is pushing us ever forward towards civil war. They clearly forced people to pick sides on this, not because they want to but because they have too. Sooner or later punches and kicks will into bombs and guns, it won't be the Republicans or Conservatives fault, the blame will be squarely on the Democrats and Far Left's side because they are the ones doing this.

These people are so blinded by their hatred, they are doing everything they can to make sure Trump doesn't win next election because the ends justify the means, ignoring the fact that HALF the nation voted for Trump to represent the United States. If all conservatives, public personalities or politicians are banned off the internet because they are "FAR RIGHT," then we will never see a Republican win the election again because they can't get the word out that they are running for election. The mainstream media just can keep them out of the lineup, just like what they did to Bernie Sanders during 2016 election which devastated his campaign and ensured that Hillary would win the nomination. Not to mention that they banning conservative personalities on these platforms, they are interfering with the United States presidential elections more than any other foreign entity ever has.

To make matters worse, every time they get away with censoring or banning individuals, they are getting bolder and pushing even more. First, it was the actual FAR RIGHT that got banned, no one said anything. Then it was ALT-Right that got banned, no one said anything at all. Now we are seeing moderate conservatives being banned and yet the left wing is cheering this on. Next, it will be people like me who is in the center-right aka libertarians that will be banned. Once they completely got rid of the right wing, who are they coming after next? That is right, it will be the center-left individuals. This will go on and on till only the FAR LEFT will be left. But the even more scary aspect, it isn't just social media giants doing this, we now have MasterCard and chase bank banning people from using their services. Many businesses or grocery stories require you to use a credit card. The only credit card that will be left is VISA and yet VISA is left out of the credit cards that they accept. These people are effectively removing people from society and make it almost impossible for them to exist here.

This week, some "JOURNALISTS" put out a blacklist of far-right individuals that are dangerous and that companies shouldn't be doing businesses with these people. If caught doing businesses, they would be plastered on the news for associating with the far right and should have their company boycotted. I have been warning and asking for people to take this seriously, but now that it is becoming deadly serious, it feels like people don't even care of people's lives are ruined and left homeless because there is no way for them to start a business or do business in the United States. This has gone far beyond them being private companies, they are the new public square and utilities, they must be regulated like the utilities they are. Denying someone access to these utilities can effectively make their life a living hell. Blacks were denied access to certain services and must use services designated for them, that was considered a civil rights issue. The same can be said about Republicans, Conservatives, Alt-Right, and Far right being banned from using services. It is no longer an argument about free speech, it has morphed into a civil rights issue about having the right to even exist in the United States at all.

Whoever said Fascism will come to America and it will come in the name of Anti-Fascism was right all along.

 

By the way, who does the far left consider far right? This graph will basically spell it out for you.

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RavenHawk

I see two possible solutions.  I am not for nationalizing services, but the government could take over the internet as infrastructure but then we'll just replace one tyrant with another and eventually will realize that they are the same anyway.  The other is to provide another platform to compete against the Zuckerbergs where Free speech will be protected.  People will flock to a new public square.  That's the issue, there is no choice.  And when there is choice, the power hungry lose out, not without turning to violence though.

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Uncle Sam
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23 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

I see two possible solutions.  I am not for nationalizing services, but the government could take over the internet as infrastructure but then we'll just replace one tyrant with another and eventually will realize that they are the same anyway.  The other is to provide another platform to compete against the Zuckerbergs where Free speech will be protected.  People will flock to a new public square.  That's the issue, there is no choice.  And when there is choice, the power hungry lose out, not without turning to violence though.

There are some alternatives.

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This is just a few alternatives... these alternatives are being demonized by mainstream media, thus they are trying to stifle their competition and keep the power that they have seized. They are all working together to get around anti-trust laws that are in place so they can have duopoly and monopoly of their current respective markets.  Also, why was bit-chute censored?

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1 hour ago, Uncle Sam said:

Oh, there is a trial run for fascism happening, it just isn't the people you think is doing it. It is the Democrats and Far Left, with the aid of the social media giants who have a duopoly of the internet. This is no longer an argument or opinion debate, it is an issue of civil rights being violated. Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Instagram, Mastercard, Chase Bank, and a few others are banning or eliminating people's ability to exist in this society because they won't bend a knee, they oppose their actions, or that they don't ascribe to their same political ideology. When you take away a person's ability to speak or to even do business in the country, you only leave them one option and that option is violence. These people are the main driving force that is pushing us ever forward towards civil war. They clearly forced people to pick sides on this, not because they want to but because they have too. Sooner or later punches and kicks will into bombs and guns, it won't be the Republicans or Conservatives fault, the blame will be squarely on the Democrats and Far Left's side because they are the ones doing this.

These people are so blinded by their hatred, they are doing everything they can to make sure Trump doesn't win next election because the ends justify the means, ignoring the fact that HALF the nation voted for Trump to represent the United States. If all conservatives, public personalities or politicians are banned off the internet because they are "FAR RIGHT," then we will never see a Republican win the election again because they can't get the word out that they are running for election. The mainstream media just can keep them out of the lineup, just like what they did to Bernie Sanders during 2016 election which devastated his campaign and ensured that Hillary would win the nomination. Not to mention that they banning conservative personalities on these platforms, they are interfering with the United States presidential elections more than any other foreign entity ever has.

To make matters worse, every time they get away with censoring or banning individuals, they are getting bolder and pushing even more. First, it was the actual FAR RIGHT that got banned, no one said anything. Then it was ALT-Right that got banned, no one said anything at all. Now we are seeing moderate conservatives being banned and yet the left wing is cheering this on. Next, it will be people like me who is in the center-right aka libertarians that will be banned. Once they completely got rid of the right wing, who are they coming after next? That is right, it will be the center-left individuals. This will go on and on till only the FAR LEFT will be left. But the even more scary aspect, it isn't just social media giants doing this, we now have MasterCard and chase bank banning people from using their services. Many businesses or grocery stories require you to use a credit card. The only credit card that will be left is VISA and yet VISA is left out of the credit cards that they accept. These people are effectively removing people from society and make it almost impossible for them to exist here.

This week, some "JOURNALISTS" put out a blacklist of far-right individuals that are dangerous and that companies shouldn't be doing businesses with these people. If caught doing businesses, they would be plastered on the news for associating with the far right and should have their company boycotted. I have been warning and asking for people to take this seriously, but now that it is becoming deadly serious, it feels like people don't even care of people's lives are ruined and left homeless because there is no way for them to start a business or do business in the United States. This has gone far beyond them being private companies, they are the new public square and utilities, they must be regulated like the utilities they are. Denying someone access to these utilities can effectively make their life a living hell. Blacks were denied access to certain services and must use services designated for them, that was considered a civil rights issue. The same can be said about Republicans, Conservatives, Alt-Right, and Far right being banned from using services. It is no longer an argument about free speech, it has morphed into a civil rights issue about having the right to even exist in the United States at all.

Whoever said Fascism will come to America and it will come in the name of Anti-Fascism was right all along.

 

By the way, who does the far left consider far right? This graph will basically spell it out for you.

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Precisely. According to the left, anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton is a Nazi.

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Sir Wearer of Hats
1 hour ago, RavenHawk said:

I see two possible solutions.  I am not for nationalizing services, but the government could take over the internet as infrastructure but then we'll just replace one tyrant with another and eventually will realize that they are the same anyway.  The other is to provide another platform to compete against the Zuckerbergs where Free speech will be protected.  People will flock to a new public square.  That's the issue, there is no choice.  And when there is choice, the power hungry lose out, not without turning to violence though.

I have always supported the idea of the government not taking over services, but rather becoming involved in the provision of services - in effect, there should be a Federal Bank, run by the government that acts like a bank, a Federal health care provider that acts like a healthcare provider etc etc. you then regulate those industries by using the market forces, you’re the government you should be the best game in town and therefore have the most patrons using your service and everyone else competes with that for market share. 

Imagine a bank that offers really really low interest rates because it’s not there to generate income for investors, but rather support the individal, other banks would scramble to adjust. 

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RabidMongoose
8 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

I have always supported the idea of the government not taking over services, but rather becoming involved in the provision of services - in effect, there should be a Federal Bank, run by the government that acts like a bank, a Federal health care provider that acts like a healthcare provider etc etc. you then regulate those industries by using the market forces, you’re the government you should be the best game in town and therefore have the most patrons using your service and everyone else competes with that for market share. 

Imagine a bank that offers really really low interest rates because it’s not there to generate income for investors, but rather support the individal, other banks would scramble to adjust. 

The problem with nationalised industries is they get hi-jacked as a platform from which to promote socialism.

Nationalisation should only be a temporary measure to prevent market failures.

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Uncle Sam
3 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said:

The problem with nationalised industries is they get hi-jacked as a platform from which to promote socialism.

Nationalisation should only be a temporary measure to prevent market failures.

Actually, they get hi-jacked to push a political ideology or used to attack the opposing ideology. It is a broader threat than just socialism. As much as I hate socialism, the threat can come from any political party that decides to be the one and only party.

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Black Red Devil
12 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

We must never forget that Hitler and Mussolini were Democratically elected or made dictators.

Back in the 1930s the far-left were totally unable to accept Hitler as the German leader. Just like how they cannot accept Trump now in the USA. So when the constant media attacks, church criticism, and rioting failed to get rid of him, they upped their anti. Two far-left people (with support from their far-left parties) tried to murder off Hitler and his coalition government by planting a firebomb in the Reichstag which burned the building to the ground.

Now of course, the far-left like to promote themselves as sweet and innocent good guys doing what is morally right. Because of that they lie and distort about what went down at the Reichstag. Unfortunately the terrorism was investigated by the German police (before there was a dictatorship), their role in the terrorism was established with evidence, and as a result in the next Parliamentary session a majority of politicians voted to give Hitler dictatorial powers so he could go and stomp out the far-left terrorist threat which he promptly did.

The danger of Trump becoming dictator is actually a danger of the far-left who cannot accept him as President. They have rioted, demonstrated, constantly harassed him trying to get rid of him for impeachment and corruption, and all it takes is for one far-left nut to try blowing up the White House and the USA has its first dictator.

The far-left are the problem, they are dangerous and are incapable of seeing the consequences to their actions.

LOL, RabidMongoose.  Poor Hitler, the left pushed him to hate and cause the death of over 10 million individuals because they were Jews, not Aryan, Homosexuls, Roma or simply anti Nazi.  It was the left that caused this because they had the hide to try to rid the world of someone who had already proclaimed his racist murderous views before he even became a Dictator and had already tried several coups to overthrow the German Parliament (Weimar) by force.  Considering you blame the left for his mad actions, do you also blame the British for getting in his way from conquering all of Europe or that doesn't count?

If the left are demonstrating against Trump, considering impeachment etc., it's because they have valid reasons.  It's not that nobody of Trump's establishment have never done anything wrong.  Cohen, Papadopoulos, Manafort, probably Stone all pleaded guilty.  Although they haven't found him directly involved, as yet, all the ones around him are rotten, including his son in law and Barr, the AG who, in true dictatorial style decided himself what the public was allowed to know from Mueller's report.  Above all, it's already been established that the Russians did interfere in the 2016 elections and who was the only one that gained from that?

So, with all this going on, what do you expect the opposition to do, nothing?  Of course people are pi$$ed off.  Pelosi doesn't tell people to demonstrate, they do it because they can smell the rot.  Reverse things, would Republicans just sit idle and whistle Dixie as if nothing happened?

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On 5/3/2019 at 1:19 AM, Tatetopa said:

Does all of the talk of Military Tribunals and executions instead of letting civil courts handle things a sign of fascism?

In time of war (that's NOW, for those of you in Rio Linda), there is a precedent for tribunals/ non-traditional judicial actions against those who plot the overthrow of our government.  There was the Lincoln assassination and the disposition of those who had even relatively minor roles.  No, no one tried to murder the president but they damned sure tried to overthrow a duly elected chief executive.  I would not be squeamish about seeing Comey, Brennan or Clapper executed once clear evidence is presented that they orchestrated these events in an attempt to get rid of the president.  That would never happen, of course, but life imprisonment should definitely be on the table.  

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5 hours ago, Uncle Sam said:

Oh, there is a trial run for fascism happening, it just isn't the people you think is doing it. It is the Democrats and Far Left, with the aid of the social media giants who have a duopoly of the internet. This is no longer an argument or opinion debate, it is an issue of civil rights being violated. Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Instagram, Mastercard, Chase Bank, and a few others are banning or eliminating people's ability to exist in this society because they won't bend a knee, they oppose their actions, or that they don't ascribe to their same political ideology. When you take away a person's ability to speak or to even do business in the country, you only leave them one option and that option is violence. These people are the main driving force that is pushing us ever forward towards civil war. They clearly forced people to pick sides on this, not because they want to but because they have too. Sooner or later punches and kicks will into bombs and guns, it won't be the Republicans or Conservatives fault, the blame will be squarely on the Democrats and Far Left's side because they are the ones doing this.

These people are so blinded by their hatred, they are doing everything they can to make sure Trump doesn't win next election because the ends justify the means, ignoring the fact that HALF the nation voted for Trump to represent the United States. If all conservatives, public personalities or politicians are banned off the internet because they are "FAR RIGHT," then we will never see a Republican win the election again because they can't get the word out that they are running for election. The mainstream media just can keep them out of the lineup, just like what they did to Bernie Sanders during 2016 election which devastated his campaign and ensured that Hillary would win the nomination. Not to mention that they banning conservative personalities on these platforms, they are interfering with the United States presidential elections more than any other foreign entity ever has.

To make matters worse, every time they get away with censoring or banning individuals, they are getting bolder and pushing even more. First, it was the actual FAR RIGHT that got banned, no one said anything. Then it was ALT-Right that got banned, no one said anything at all. Now we are seeing moderate conservatives being banned and yet the left wing is cheering this on. Next, it will be people like me who is in the center-right aka libertarians that will be banned. Once they completely got rid of the right wing, who are they coming after next? That is right, it will be the center-left individuals. This will go on and on till only the FAR LEFT will be left. But the even more scary aspect, it isn't just social media giants doing this, we now have MasterCard and chase bank banning people from using their services. Many businesses or grocery stories require you to use a credit card. The only credit card that will be left is VISA and yet VISA is left out of the credit cards that they accept. These people are effectively removing people from society and make it almost impossible for them to exist here.

This week, some "JOURNALISTS" put out a blacklist of far-right individuals that are dangerous and that companies shouldn't be doing businesses with these people. If caught doing businesses, they would be plastered on the news for associating with the far right and should have their company boycotted. I have been warning and asking for people to take this seriously, but now that it is becoming deadly serious, it feels like people don't even care of people's lives are ruined and left homeless because there is no way for them to start a business or do business in the United States. This has gone far beyond them being private companies, they are the new public square and utilities, they must be regulated like the utilities they are. Denying someone access to these utilities can effectively make their life a living hell. Blacks were denied access to certain services and must use services designated for them, that was considered a civil rights issue. The same can be said about Republicans, Conservatives, Alt-Right, and Far right being banned from using services. It is no longer an argument about free speech, it has morphed into a civil rights issue about having the right to even exist in the United States at all.

Whoever said Fascism will come to America and it will come in the name of Anti-Fascism was right all along.

 

By the way, who does the far left consider far right? This graph will basically spell it out for you.

So if the Republicans fight back with bombs and guns it's the Democrats fault, aka Hitler style like Rabid Mongoose mentioned.  So in your view people like this madman below with his outrageous views, didn't deserve to be banned?

But this part is the absolute clincher:

These people are so blinded by their hatred, they are doing everything they can to make sure Trump doesn't win next election because the ends justify the means, ignoring the fact that HALF the nation voted for Trump to represent the United States.

So in your simple mind, stopping people from expressing false, hateful, racist and inflammatory remarks on social media is against the right wing because all were found to be responsible of doing some or all of the above which says a lot about right wing ideology.  So in your mind because 50% of a nation voted for a leader that has been found to express false, hateful, racist and inflammatory remarks the other half should just accept this as the status quo.  But the best part of your rationality is that you expect opposition to not do what's in their power to regain the leadership of a country.  To do what's in their power doesn't mean conduct themselves illegally, that would be silly and lose votes.  The fact that Trump is giving all this ammunition to the opposition is purely his fault.  Because 50% have elected him as their leader it doesn't mean the other 50% shouldn't keep him honest and take him to task where there's suspicion he isn't.

 

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2 minutes ago, Black Red Devil said:

Because 50% have elected him as their leader it doesn't mean the other 50% shouldn't keep him honest and take him to task where there's suspicion he isn't.

That isn't at ALL what he said.  Strawman much?  He said that when powerful media platforms can suppress speech they don't agree with, regardless whether it actually IS hateful and aimed to incite violence or not then those media owners are taking away the ability to peacefully engage in the marketplace of ideas. Take that far enough and people will make their voices heard however they need to do.  I don't know how people deal with muzzles and boots on the neck in OZ, but over here we tend to bridle at it.  

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There are two ways the Republicans can shut the Democrats up once and for all, Trumps tax returns and the full Mueller report.  Most Americans want to see them, including many Republicans.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/trump-tax-returns-voters-polls-show-americans-want-them.html

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/majority-of-americans-want-mueller-russia-report-made-public-poll-2019-3?r=US&IR=T

Don't anyone hold their breath. :rofl:

 

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On 5/3/2019 at 3:45 AM, Vlad the Mighty said:

Yes, but even if he wanted to be dictatorial, he's blocked in every single thing he wants to do by the Communists Democrats, isn't he. Which perhaps is why there's always a handy Foreign Villain to divert the nation's attention to hatred of, isn't there,  

If he was a Fascist, he would have simply crushed the opposition by ignoring their judges and their use of the Constitutional powers.  From what I've seen he has respected the process and the powers of the Judicial branch.  If you think you've seen hysteria up until now, trust me, you ain't seen NUTHIN' YET.  When Barr begins to present evidence of the criminal actions of Comey, Brennan, and Clapper, among others, the 5th column is going to absolutely lose their minds and start screaming hysterically about tyranny, Constitutional crisis, and "coups".  Watch it happen.  And I say - SCREW THEM.  Bring the pain, baby...

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Sir Wearer of Hats
3 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

The problem with nationalised industries is they get hi-jacked as a platform from which to promote socialism.

Nationalisation should only be a temporary measure to prevent market failures.

Who said anything about nationalising? I’m talking about market competition with the government as a competitor.

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2 hours ago, and then said:

In time of war (that's NOW, for those of you in Rio Linda), there is a precedent for tribunals/ non-traditional judicial actions against those who plot the overthrow of our government.  There was the Lincoln assassination and the disposition of those who had even relatively minor roles.  No, no one tried to murder the president but they damned sure tried to overthrow a duly elected chief executive.  I would not be squeamish about seeing Comey, Brennan or Clapper executed once clear evidence is presented that they orchestrated these events in an attempt to get rid of the president.  That would never happen, of course, but life imprisonment should definitely be on the table. 

From 2016: (CNN) Donald Trump has come under fire for recommending US citizens accused of terrorism be prosecuted before military tribunals. But despite the criticism, Trump's concerns are not only merited -- they are, in fact, within the bounds of the law.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/16/opinions/trump-military-tribunals-american-citizens-mcenany/index.html

Trump mentioned this before being elected. Our Senate and Congressional members have mentioned this, and I got accused of posting "Q anon" stuff in another thread. The thing is, looking it up, even "Q" says there is no escaping what is coming. In other words those who attempted to overthrow a duly elected chief executive and his entire cabinet won't be hiding behind high priced lawyers, public opinion and years of delays or appeals if convicted. There is no escaping a military tribunal so go ahead and plead the fifth and see how far that gets you. They wanted to play hardball and now it's Donald's turn at bat.

The house and Senate have been taking the testimony of all these people involved in the conspiracy and eventually we will see how far up it went as they turn on one another.

 

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3 hours ago, Black Red Devil said:

LOL, RabidMongoose.  Poor Hitler, the left pushed him to hate and cause the death of over 10 million individuals because they were Jews, not Aryan, Homosexuls, Roma or simply anti Nazi.  It was the left that caused this because they had the hide to try to rid the world of someone who had already proclaimed his racist murderous views before he even became a Dictator and had already tried several coups to overthrow the German Parliament (Weimar) by force.  Considering you blame the left for his mad actions, do you also blame the British for getting in his way from conquering all of Europe or that doesn't count?

This is where we're at Amigo.  Its now the victim of the holocaust's fault because they didnt submit to the whims of the dear leader. Pretty freaking chilling that this is how far we've fallen.

This article i came across earlier does a kind of decent job addressing the issue Here’s why conservatives are in denial about their white supremacy problem

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Does this mean that the Donald Trumps and Tucker Carlsons of the world directly cause anti-Semitic violence? No. (Earnest wrote that he hates Trump for supporting Israel.) But they make its increasing occurrence inevitable. It’s tautological but true to say that the more mainstream a movement becomes, the more adherents it picks up; the degree to which a belief is “fringe” depends on what’s normal. The radicalization process is shorter when the journey from mainstream conservative to white supremacist merely involves the leap from “some Jews are secretly conspiring to bring more non-white people into the United States” to “all Jews are secretly conspiring to bring down the white race.”

 

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2 hours ago, and then said:

That isn't at ALL what he said.  Strawman much?  He said that when powerful media platforms can suppress speech they don't agree with, regardless whether it actually IS hateful and aimed to incite violence or not then those media owners are taking away the ability to peacefully engage in the marketplace of ideas. Take that far enough and people will make their voices heard however they need to do.  I don't know how people deal with muzzles and boots on the neck in OZ, but over here we tend to bridle at it.  

LOL, are you trying hard to be a fool or are you just naturally one?  You're implying the same thing that he posted but made it sound even worse, see the bold part in your quote.  If IT IS HATEFUL SPEECH and it IS AIMED AT INCITING VIOLENCE you can't go and complain that someone is taking away your ability TO PEACEFULLY ENGAGE.  Are you capable of recognising the paradox in your statement?

Is it acceptable for the right wing to allow Alex Jones to spread false claims that children at Sandy Hook weren't murdered just because he loves his guns?  If as you say individuals should be allowed to express their hatred freely and peacefully you must also show your support in allowing Farrakhan to express his anti semetic views, correct?

Anyway, when private enterprises decide what's good or bad for their viewers it's their business.  Their forum, their rules.  Up to you to close your account if you don't like it. 

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9 hours ago, Uncle Sam said:

 

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  Also, why was bit-chute censored?

Oh, bit chute, presumably., I was thinking it was how an Aussie might refer to his pickup after the ***** thing ran out of gas in the middle of nowhere :no: 

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18 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

Two far-left people (with support from their far-left parties) tried to murder off Hitler and his coalition government by planting a firebomb in the Reichstag which burned the building to the ground.

I think that was the proto-False Flag. If they had wanted to murder Adolf and his gang, they'd have done it when the Reichstag was in session surely, not at night when there was no one there. 

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Back in the 1930s the far-left were totally unable to accept Hitler as the German leader. 

And would anyone really say they were wrong there?

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5 hours ago, Black Red Devil said:

Reverse things, would Republicans just sit idle and whistle Dixie as if nothing happened?

I think that's illegal these days :mellow: 

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5 hours ago, and then said:

I would not be squeamish about seeing Comey, Brennan or Clapper executed

Extend it to Bolton and Pompeous Maximus and broadcast it live on TV and you'd have the guaranteed ratings winner for the year :mellow: 

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2 hours ago, Farmer77 said:

This article i came across earlier does a kind of decent job addressing the issue Here’s why conservatives are in denial about their white supremacy problem

 

possibly they'ré indenial about their white supremacy problem because the argument is so tenuous. Who is the current administration's foreign policy almost solely geared towards pandering to every whim of? If you say that Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu's ultra-hardline administration isn't representative of the Jewish population of the United States generally, then well, I'm very glad to hear it. But just as long as US foreign policy is decided in the Knesset, then the tenuous argument trying to link Trump with white supremacism with a desire for abolition of the Jewish race is, well, tenuous to put it generously. 

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