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Trial runs for fascism are in full flow

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Dumbledore the Awesome
11 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

IMO no actually, IDK that I can think of any case where racism was his gig. He does however symbolize the danger of a fact free society that creates the proper breeding environments for extremist folks like white supremacists. 

Which recent school shooter was that again?

How many school shooters have been motivated by White Supremacists? Probably few. If you're looking for examples of shooters in, for example, churches, that do appear to have been motivated by non-Christian fundamentalism, well, have a look back over the news recently. 

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kartikg
On Fri Jul 13 2018 at 12:42 PM, Farmer77 said:

BUULLLL 

We'll see a LOT more of that happening If people don't stop lying and exaggerating regarding the border for political gain. 

Do you guys go to a university to get your degrees in strawman building? Holy hell no one except the most absurdly extreme want open borders. Stop bringing that to the conversation its a load of garbage. 

But why do you want any immigrants to be let in? Is usa or any country is really in need of people? What is the purpose of letting people in? If you want someone with particular skill set you can always vet them or advertise for jobs and let them in legally. 

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Farmer77
4 minutes ago, Vlad the Mighty said:

How many school shooters have been motivated by White Supremacists? Probably few.

Im afraid thats just denial at this point amigo. Well I guess we could kibbitz over the word motivated. How many of them (speaking of the US) were involved in white supremacy or white supremacy type groups ? All of them

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Dumbledore the Awesome

So every single school shooter was at the bottom of it all motivated by White Supremacism? My goodness, that's a stretch .

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Farmer77
2 minutes ago, kartikg said:

But why do you want any immigrants to be let in? Is usa or any country is really in need of people? What is the purpose of letting people in?

I'm a romantic and I kind of like America. We are a nation of immigrants and thats what has always made us great and kept us from becoming stagnant and inbred.

5 minutes ago, kartikg said:

If you want someone with particular skill set you can always vet them or advertise for jobs and let them in legally. 

Im all for the legal part. That was really the point of the post you quoted. Having different visions as to how best handle immigration and border security doesnt necessarily mean wanting open borders.

 

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Farmer77
1 minute ago, Vlad the Mighty said:

So every single school shooter was at the bottom of it all motivated by White Supremacism? My goodness, that's a stretch .

No like i said we could argue over the term motivated, I dont particularly feel like that term is really applicable, but absolutely influenced by.

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Dumbledore the Awesome

Mind you, the Indignant Right certainly doesn't mind how silly it makes itself look, with preposterous raging-against-the-silliest-things stories like this. (I expect linking to the Sun is banned, but the title is enough to give anyone a good laugh.

'PC BONKERS' 

Piers Morgan lashes out at Marks & Spencer for launching LGBT sandwich

)  Of course he could be caricaturing rightwing furiousness, but that might be hoping for an improbable level of sophistication. :mellow: 

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Dumbledore the Awesome
11 minutes ago, kartikg said:

But why do you want any immigrants to be let in? Is usa or any country is really in need of people? What is the purpose of letting people in? If you want someone with particular skill set you can always vet them or advertise for jobs and let them in legally. 

If there hadn't been immigration, there'd never have been a Unite States in the first place. You could argue until the cows come home over whether that would have been a good thing or not, I suppose. :mellow: 

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Black Red Devil
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, bee said:


You're not going to like this .... but I'm afraid you have been mind controlled
to approve of Alex Jones being removed from Social Media Platforms....
 

 

Until they come for YOU...?

Will you be ok with being excluded  for your political views...?
Maybe in conjunction with your banking activities being controlled in some way...

It's not just Conservatives being censored it's also the anti war left... the awkward left who don't
fall in with the Corporate Left .... 

It looks like a Chinese like Social Score system is being brought in through the back door and don't
think you can escape it by self censoring .... your internet content is on permanent record and things
you have said in the past will be used against you...

you're failure to oppose the blanket censorship of people like Alex Jones - and others you might not
like... is paving the way for you to be treated the same and censored...

Tucker Carlson commenting about what Zuckerberg said at the beginning of this short video...

"who knew fascism could be so chirpy..." (1:14)

 

 

Sorry Bee nobody controls my mind and I don't get fooled easily by false claims whether they're coming from left or right streams.  I think we need more evidence of your sensationalists claims and someone better to represent them than Alex Jones who is anyone but a trustworthy source.  As for Tucker pulling the free speech thing on Zuckerberg and co., unlike the POTUS, Zuckerberg doesn't represent all citizens and he doesn't force anyone to join.  If you think there is some Liberal Globalist organisation that has collective media outlets brainwashing people then unless you can prove something, it's just pure fantasy and CT material.

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Buzz_Light_Year
39 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Im afraid thats just denial at this point amigo. Well I guess we could kibbitz over the word motivated. How many of them (speaking of the US) were involved in white supremacy or white supremacy type groups ? All of them

You keep talking about facts and yet you make asinine statements such as the bolded. :huh:

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Black Red Devil
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Sorry, edited because I quoted the wrong post. 

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Black Red Devil
46 minutes ago, kartikg said:

But why do you want any immigrants to be let in? Is usa or any country is really in need of people? What is the purpose of letting people in? If you want someone with particular skill set you can always vet them or advertise for jobs and let them in legally. 

He didn't say that.

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Hammerclaw

Political Cartoons by Pat Cross

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Black Red Devil
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Vlad the Mighty said:

how many countries have White Supremacists tried to overthrow the governments of so they can turn it into a White Supremacist Caliphate? How many people's heads have been chopped off and recorded live on TV to make people bow down tot he White Supremacist Caliphate? How many have been killed in terrorist attacks "inspired by Alex Jones"? How many people have been blown up in music venues or sports arenas or churches because they were "inspired" by Paul Joseph Watson? Unless and until the two things can be even remotely compared, anyone who tries to say such a thing will just be treated with the derision that they deserve. 

The correct one.

Would you consider Apartheid South Africa a white supremacist nation?  How about Nazi Germany or the Confederate States of America?  Australia had a white policy until half a century ago.  If you're looking for a white supremacist blowing themselves up in a mosque then you're looking in the wrong places but there were plenty of cases (of white supremacy) in the past.  The fact they aren't prominent in society these days is probably more to do with the fact the world has changed, but definitely not thanks to right wing ideology.

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kartikg
40 minutes ago, Vlad the Mighty said:

If there hadn't been immigration, there'd never have been a Unite States in the first place. You could argue until the cows come home over whether that would have been a good thing or not, I suppose. :mellow: 

I agree but that was in the past, now it's a well established country. It's time for other countries to take care of their citizens if they cannot why don't just handover their countries to usa or un. 

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RabidMongoose
11 hours ago, Uncle Sam said:

Actually, they get hi-jacked to push a political ideology or used to attack the opposing ideology. It is a broader threat than just socialism. As much as I hate socialism, the threat can come from any political party that decides to be the one and only party.

I`m British, I think our system is different from yours.

Here its a platform for socialism.

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Farmer77
Just now, Buzz_Light_Year said:

You keep talking about facts and yet you make asinine statements such as the bolded. :huh:

You know you're right saying all of them is rather hyperbolic. The majority though seems to be a fair statement, particularly the mass shootings.

Off of the top of my head we have Parkland and Aztek and Umpqua then of course the Pittsburgh and California synagogue shootings.....ok now beyond off the top of my head this article provides a good accounting of the attacks globally as well as how they are connected. Which is really the point.

Attacks by White Extremists Are Growing. So Are Their Connections.

When I say influenced by white supremacists you are picturing the tatted up skinhead in his wife beater and combat boots screaming heil hitler. The NZ shooter manifesto really did a good job of highlighting the insidious nature of white supremacy today and how it spreads through "jokes" and memes that are juuuuust vague enough to provide semi plausible deniability when called out on it. Go spend some time on 8chan or Qanon twitter.  That kind of mainstreaming not just of racist attitudes but the attitude that lowers the value of human life in general has become ubiquitous no longer in just the dark corners of the internet but in more and more mainstream locales.

 

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Farmer77
Posted (edited)

LOL the title of the thread is Trial runs for fascism.. it doesnt say who will actually bring it.....

Democrats have a plan to make Mitch McConnell irrelevant if they take the White House in 2020

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According to a report from Politico, a handful of Democratic presidential nomination contenders are openly boasting that they will use presidential executive orders should they be elected– using a roadmap the Donald Trump has provided as he has forced through his own agenda.

“With Republicans likely to maintain control of the Senate in 2020 — and a new norm taking root after three successive administrations that aggressively wielded executive orders to make policy — Democratic candidates for president are starting to point more frequently to the ambitious things they’ll ram through on their own,” the report states, adding, “Campaign-trail pledges to sign executive orders aren’t new. But the frequency of the promises this year, and the expansive nature of them, mark a departure from practice.”

According to a Washington analyst, under Trump the system has become so toxic and polarized that governing by executive order has become a necessity.

“That’s basically the only way to govern now,” explained Andrew Feldman, a Democratic strategist. “It’s kind of a way of life. [With executive orders] you can actually get a lot done, and as we’ve seen with the Trump administration, you can do a lot of harm.”

The report notes that Senators Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Kamala Harris (D-CA) have not been shy about announcing their intentions to go around a Republican-controlled Senate if they have to — with both presidential contenders specifically mentioning using the executive power of the presidency to bring about immediate change.

 

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Hammerclaw
5 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

LOL the title of the thread is Trial runs for fascism.. it doesnt say who will actually bring it.....

Democrats have a plan to make Mitch McConnell irrelevant if they take the White House in 2020

 

Nothing new here. We had eight years of that with Obama.

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Hammerclaw
# PRESIDENT PARTY TOTAL EXECUTIVE ORDERS
45 Donald Trump Republican 104
44 Barack Obama Democrat 276
43 George W. Bush Republican 291
42 Bill Clinton Democrat 364

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Farmer77
Just now, Hammerclaw said:

Nothing new here. We had eight years of that with Obama.

God Bless America huh :lol:

Its OK for their guy as long as it OK for our guy. A slow and painful way for a nation to die.

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Hammerclaw
Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, Farmer77 said:

God Bless America huh :lol:

Its OK for their guy as long as it OK for our guy. A slow and painful way for a nation to die.

If it can survive Bill Clinton, the EO king, it can survive anything.

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Farmer77
Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

If can survive Bill Clinton, the EO king, it can survive anything.

The cynic in me wants to say It didnt. It just doesnt know it yet.

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RabidMongoose
4 hours ago, Vlad the Mighty said:

I think that was the proto-False Flag. If they had wanted to murder Adolf and his gang, they'd have done it when the Reichstag was in session surely, not at night when there was no one there. 

And would anyone really say they were wrong there?

You are choosing to believe in a conspiracy theory there.

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RabidMongoose
1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said:

Political Cartoons by Pat Cross

Trump doesnt even have anywhere near the popularity of Hitler.

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