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Just now, CrimsonKing said:

Yet now days EVERYTHING you think,believe,and stand by EVERYTIME after your 2 weeks off is so far left you're falling off a cliff defending it... :wacko:

See dude this is part of what has me so frustrated. Please tell me what in the post you quoted was "so far left". 

 

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5 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Trump spit in the face of the thousands of men and women who put their lives on the line to keep this country safe via the intelligence services and Obama and Hillary are somehow relevant? Yikes 

I can't help you if you refuse to acknowledge it. Let's keep it in the 21st century at least, shall we?

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19 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

That's not manhood, not even ****ing close.

That is just so much ignorance.  Trump haters will cut off their nose to maintain the narrative.  More and more of what F3SS said rings true.  The human male objectifies the female.  That is normal, it is nature and without it, the species would die out.  The Great Masters that painted nudes like de Goya, Bosch, Cezanne, Titian, etc.  Was this porn or beauty?  Mark Twain called Titian’s Venus “the foulest, the vilest, the obscenest picture the world possesses.”  If you go back further, archeologists have found ancient fertility rites statues in every corner of the planet, all female nudes.  Please tell me that you’ve never looked through a Playboy and enjoyed the beauty of the pictures?  This is a part of manhood.  And acidhead is right about the female.  They objectify the male too but in a slightly different way.  I’ve experienced that kind of objectification and I kind of liked it, but those days are past.  I think deep down, everyone does.  Both the male and female come to a climax but they experience it in different ways.  The key is how does the individual deal with their own sexuality?  Objectification in of itself is not dirty.  It is a matter of appropriateness but a private conversation that is leaked out is not crossing some imaginary line.  It is more like an infringement on the privacy and if one is offended, then it is their problem.

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1 minute ago, Likely Guy said:

When you can start to become a nicer person, I may start to listen to you.

$5, for what?

I am nice 

I'm confident in myself and my existence so I speak my mind.  

Like Fess said, since Trump won I read more post less... Am more sarcastic.

There is a lot of virtual virtue signaling online.

The real work begins with yourself.

At home.

Clean your room... Make your bed every morning is a start.  

Become the individual your want to attract.

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4 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Hold up bud...'member the tales you have told us all about your "hardcore" far right Republican stances during the "Dubbya" years?...you've repeated it multiple times....

You came back here as a middle of the road,hating both sides 3rd party not believing in the big 2 "sides" who gives a ****'ist...

Yet now days EVERYTHING you think,believe,and stand by EVERYTIME after your 2 weeks off is so far left you're falling off a cliff defending it... :wacko:

I love ya as a human bro,but you seem to have a really hard time staying objective...middle of the road...or non partisan...

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One hundred million "likes"

Is that right? :huh:

One of our good friends here said there was a lot of comical remarks lately....add one more! :lol:

Really, I think we should all lighten up a skosh. :)

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1 minute ago, RavenHawk said:

That is just so much ignorance.  Trump haters will cut off their nose to maintain the narrative.  More and more of what F3SS said rings true.  The human male objectifies the female.  That is normal, it is nature and without it, the species would die out.  The Great Masters that painted nudes like de Goya, Bosch, Cezanne, Titian, etc.  Was this porn or beauty?  Mark Twain called Titian’s Venus “the foulest, the vilest, the obscenest picture the world possesses.”  If you go back further, archeologists have found ancient fertility rites statues in every corner of the planet, all female nudes.  Please tell me that you’ve never looked through a Playboy and enjoyed the beauty of the pictures?  This is a part of manhood.  And acidhead is right about the female.  They objectify the male too but in a slightly different way.  I’ve experienced that kind of objectification and I kind of liked it, but those days are past.  I think deep down, everyone does.  Both the male and female come to a climax but they experience it in different ways.  The key is how does the individual deal with their own sexuality?  Objectification in of itself is not dirty.  It is a matter of appropriateness but a private conversation that is leaked out is not crossing some imaginary line.  It is more like an infringement on the privacy and if one is offended, then it is their problem.

In those half a dozen words I agree, the rest is brazen randy ignorance.

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7 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

I love ya as a human bro,but you seem to have a really hard time staying objective...middle of the road...or non partisan...

Im NOT objective but it has zero to do with partisanship, hell I cant name a person or party I would want in power right now....oh right Josh Gates 2020 !   

What happened today, really over the last week, should have all Americans concerned. I get it he beat Hillary and thats great, I get that after 8 years of being down "conservatives" feel that they are on top and are enjoying it and thats great. 

What I cant get is excusing the POTUS actively working to strengthen the nation which just launched a cyber attack on us and I certainly cant get anyone justifying the capitulation which happened in Helsinki today. Capitulation of course being a very generous best case scenario at this point. 

That has NOTHING to do with politics and everything to do with patriotism and wanting to leave a decent nation for my kids. 

 

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3 minutes ago, acidhead said:

I am nice 

I'm confident in myself and my existence so I speak my mind.  

Like Fess said, since Trump won I read more post less... Am more sarcastic.

There is a lot of virtual virtue signaling online.

The real work begins with yourself.

At home.

Clean your room... Make your bed every morning is a start.  

Become the individual your want to attract.

You owe me ten bucks for reading that tripe.

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11 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

This desperate conspiracy mongering has got to stop. Before the IG report was released Team Trump was prepared to accept every bit of it as gospel ….riiiight up until they realized it wasn't going to back the frankly feeble "Derp state" conspiracy theory. Its been investigated, its been settled, there was no biased influence into the election. 

 

Trump spit in the face of the thousands of men and women who put their lives on the line to keep this country safe via the intelligence services and Obama and Hillary are somehow relevant? Yikes 
 

Did they??

Barak and Hillary?

Trump's engaging with dialogue.

The former turned their tails.

Sooner or later u hv to talk.

 

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Just now, acidhead said:

Sooner or later u hv to talk.

Im not saying we shouldn't talk. I think very few actually are.  Choosing to publicly side with a foreign leader over your own intelligence agencies though is flatly inexcusable. 

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1 minute ago, Likely Guy said:

You owe me ten bucks for reading that tripe.

Fine.

You hand over a $20 I'll give u $10

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Just now, Farmer77 said:

See dude this is part of what has me so frustrated. Please tell me what in the post you quoted was "so far left". 

 

I was mentioning "overall" work just about a year and half/2 years ago my friend...

Call me a b***ard,liar,ass hole,ect. bro...I remember so many damn conversations between me,you,yam,preacherman,michelle,acid head,ect. that i thought we were seeing the rise of a 3rd party type movement...

If it frustrates you that i remember stuff when people could discuss AMERICAN policy amongst themselves without foreign hysterics and support...then i'm sorry,welcome back to the complete opposite of your own admitted Bush hysterics years,and have fun with your complete hysteric opposite now...

Maybe 6 years from now,you'll get all wound up again for whatever or who knows wtf...

I'll leave ya alone...enjoy UM ;)

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2 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

In those half a dozen words I agree, the rest is brazen randy ignorance.

You only saw the words you wanted.  You didn’t see the meaning behind them.  That’s why it was only brazen to you.

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1 minute ago, Farmer77 said:

Im not saying we shouldn't talk. I think very few actually are.  Choosing to publicly side with a foreign leader over your own intelligence agencies though is flatly inexcusable. 

Just curious....

If u were completely innocent would you say anything to bring u down?

 

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10 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Call me a b***ard,liar,ass hole,ect. bro...I remember so many damn conversations between me,you,yam,preacherman,michelle,acid head,ect. that i thought we were seeing the rise of a 3rd party type movement...

Hell me too but ya'll seem to be becoming further and further detached from reality. Well Acid,Preacher and Michelle anyways while you just seem to be moving solidly into a pattern of doing nothing but bringing up democrats anytime something negative about Trump is brought up. I get it and I agree Obama and HIllary and hell Bush before them sucked.....thats really irrelevant to the conversation though the election was 600+ days ago. 

10 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

If it frustrates you that i remember stuff when people could discuss AMERICAN policy amongst themselves without foreign hysterics and support...then i'm sorry,welcome back to the complete opposite of your own admitted Bush hysterics years,and have fun with your complete hysteric opposite now...

No dude it frustrates me that when discussing legitimate national security issues you jump to the "so far left" when this conversation in particular really should have no relation to the left right paradigm. 

 

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In 2016, I forecast that Donald Trump, a.k.a “Heat Miser” would cause more damage to the US intelligence service, than Edward Snowden. This, before he was even elected.

This is clearly war, between the Executive Branch and the intelligence service, who are part of the military, as well as the Judicial Branch.

Contrary to what most of the pundits believe, I think that Trump is preparing for war, and he wants Russian help.

What we saw today was Trump signaling that he is willing to sacrifice everything, including the United States, and there is nothing of this earth that can stop him. 

 He can start a war long before he could be impeached. 

After the recent NATO summit, he publicly stated, “I am a stable genius.”

 The reason he needs Putin’s help, is that he will start the next war, so the NATO treaty is useless to him.

 

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2 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

You only saw the words you wanted.  You didn’t see the meaning behind them.  That’s why it was only brazen to you.

Sorry, I'm done. I've better things to do (like sleep) then argue pedantic semantics.

Have a nice day tomorrow.

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2 minutes ago, acidhead said:

If u were completely innocent would you say anything to bring u down?

Its funny you say that. Allegedly one of the first responses from the WH staff was to claim that Trump was incapable of separating the collusion investigation from the Russian meddling issue. 

'Constitutionally Incapable': Trump Officials Reportedly Say 'His Brain Can't Process' the Facts of Russian Election Interference

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Officials speaking off the record with Axios reporter Jonathan Swan tried to cast Trump's refusal to condemn Russian aggression or stand up to Putin's interference in the 2016 election as incompetence, rather than malicious and treacherous alignment with the foreign authoritarian.

"A number of people who’ve discussed election meddling with Trump, including current senior administration officials, say his brain can’t process that collusion and cyberattacks are two different things," Swan wrote. "Trump seems constitutionally incapable of taking anything Mueller finds seriously."

Which of course still means he's a horrible human being for throwing the intel agencies under the bus. 

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out you can address the Russian influence without ever conceding that there was collusion. Hell had team Trump taken that tact from the beginning many more would probably believe him. 

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7 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Im not saying we shouldn't talk. I think very few actually are.  Choosing to publicly side with a foreign leader over your own intelligence agencies though is flatly inexcusable. 

Of course not, but since it is Trump, it is flatly inexcusable.  It is inconceivable to you to think that maybe Trump was seeing a better opportunity for America by reaching out to Putin rather than blatantly confronting him?  Trump now has the option of action by observing how Russia reacts.  Trump is using diplomacy instead of going to war.

 

Just thinking out loud, if the Progressives capture the House or Senate, will it be due to Russian interference?

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9 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Well Acid,Preacher and Michelle anyways

What? What have I said that is so off the mark? I barely say anything and I am so PC, for the most part, I don't know what you misinterpreted.

It's no wonder people are afraid to express an honest, neutral opinion the way it gets twisted.

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3 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Its funny you say that. Allegedly one of the first responses from the WH staff was to claim that Trump was incapable of separating the collusion investigation from the Russian meddling issue. 

'Constitutionally Incapable': Trump Officials Reportedly Say 'His Brain Can't Process' the Facts of Russian Election Interference

Which of course still means he's a horrible human being for throwing the intel agencies under the bus. 

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out you can address the Russian influence without ever conceding that there was collusion. Hell had team Trump taken that tact from the beginning many more would probably believe him. 

Whatever..

Watch the Putin- Trump interview.

This whole senario was scripted from the beginning.

Example...

If Hillary won..

Russian collusion.

If Trump won..

Russian collusion.

Trump won.

Without Russian interference.

Hell... I'm Canadian... I thought she was evil after her gadaffi quote 

The cont was doomed.

The election was hers to take.

She called the opposition deploribles.

Again...

A dumb move.

America vioted.

Stop making excuses for her.

 

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Just now, acidhead said:

Hell... I'm Canadian... I thought she was evil after her gadaffi quote 

I agree she is definitely an evil b****. Ill never question someone voting for Trump, continued support however is a whole other story. 

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3 minutes ago, Michelle said:

What? What have I said that is so off the mark? I barely say anything and I am so PC, for the most part, I don't know what you misinterpreted.

Ha sorry your reference to the intelligence agencies being biased was fresh on my mind at that time. Which leads to the whole derp state conspiracy garbage. No offense intended. 

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4 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

Of course not, but since it is Trump, it is flatly inexcusable. 

The man himself said anyone who kneels during the anthem should leave the country due to its offensiveness yet he tells the men and women in the intelligence community that their word is worth less than that of a former KGB agent and current dictator. 

There really aren't any warning bells going off for ya yet? 

 

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14 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Hell me too but ya'll seem to be becoming further and further detached from reality. Well Acid,Preacher and Michelle anyways while you just seem to be moving solidly into a pattern of doing nothing but bringing up democrats anytime something negative about Trump is brought up. I get it and I agree Obama and HIllary and hell Bush before them sucked.....thats really irrelevant to the conversation though the election was 600+ days ago. 

No dude it frustrates me that when discussing legitimate national security issues you jump to the "so far left" when this conversation in particular really should have no relation to the left right paradigm. 

 

Don't worry about "frustrations" dude...

I give up...enjoy yourself here ;)

I'll continue my calling out,making fun of,and continuation of calling out both sides when needed...

you continue your far flung "anarchy" off constant defense and obbsession with one side or the other at any given time you feel like defending it...

That's you and in so much of your own words...NOT JUST RIGHT NOW!

As i said,enjoy UM dude...best we just ignore each other

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