The Caspian Hare Posted July 18, 2018 #1 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Quote Mexico's new government is set explore the possibility of legalizing drugs, as part of a policy to tackle the violent crime that grips the nation, incoming Interior Minister Olga Sanchez Cordero said on Tuesday. Sanchez Cordero, a former Supreme Court judge, made the remark at a university seminar on the nation's cartel-fueled violence. Mexico's drug traffickers are the biggest suppliers of cocaine, heroin and other narcotics to the US. "On the subject of decriminalizing drugs, Andres Manuel told me, and I quote: 'Carte blanche. Whatever is necessary to restore peace in this country. Let's open up the debate,'" Sanchez Cordero said. https://www.dw.com/en/mexico-lopez-obrador-government-to-consider-legalization-of-drugs/a-44717636 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted July 18, 2018 #2 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Its frankly common sense. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 18, 2018 #3 Share Posted July 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: Its frankly common sense. Common sense would of been nipping it in the bud before it got this bad. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 18, 2018 #4 Share Posted July 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, seanjo said: All drugs should be legal, controlled and taxed. Narcon should be banned. Keeping heroin addicts alive is cruel in my opinion...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted July 18, 2018 #5 Share Posted July 18, 2018 What could would it do to legalise drugs in Mexico ? Most of the drugs are destined for export to the USA. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted July 18, 2018 #6 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, seanjo said: All drugs should be legal, controlled and taxed. I assume you mean also the United States. Given The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that what we put into our bodies is less important than the dead babies we have ripped out, why not. If the female womb is protected over the fetus, then the bloodstream is likewise protected over the drug placed within. This contradiction of do we control our own bodies should not be a contradiction. It’s obvious who controls the human body, and it will never be a government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 18, 2018 #7 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, Raptor Witness said: I assume you mean also the United States. Given The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that what we put into our bodies is less important than the dead babies we have ripped out, why not. If the female womb is protected over the fetus, then the bloodstream is likewise protected over the drug placed within. This contradiction of do we control our own bodies should not be a contradiction. It’s obvious who controls the human body, and it will never be a government. the goal is not to control what you put ion your body, no one gives a damn what you poison it with, the goal is to have a reason to arrest you.and have you make money for prison cartel. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted July 18, 2018 #8 Share Posted July 18, 2018 This should make a sizable dent in the cartel but so much of their cash is coming from America where the drugs are still illegal. Not good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 18, 2018 #9 Share Posted July 18, 2018 This is bad news for the USA. These illegal operations will need to seek other avenues. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted July 18, 2018 #10 Share Posted July 18, 2018 The Mexican Govt may have to consider building a wall at the border to stop the flood of US addicts flocking south to get legally wasted. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted July 18, 2018 #11 Share Posted July 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Black Red Devil said: The Mexican Govt may have to consider building a wall at the border to stop the flood of US addicts flocking south to get legally wasted. Cool. They build a wall, and get America (well, Americans anyway) to finance it 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 18, 2018 #12 Share Posted July 18, 2018 55 minutes ago, Black Red Devil said: The Mexican Govt may have to consider building a wall at the border to stop the flood of US addicts flocking south to get legally wasted. That's already happening with Newage numbskulls looking for a "natural?" high........ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 18, 2018 #13 Share Posted July 18, 2018 why would anyone go to shthole as mexico to get high legally, when you can do it in a dosen of us states. and why would potheads care if they do it legally or not? smart potheads do not get caught, stupid ones will get in troubles in mexico regardless of legal weed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted July 18, 2018 #14 Share Posted July 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, aztek said: why would anyone go to shthole as mexico to get high legally, when you can do it in a dosen of us states. and why would potheads care if they do it legally or not? smart potheads do not get caught, stupid ones will get in troubles in mexico regardless of legal weed College students still regularly do spring break in Mexico. Drinking age 18 and all that. Legalizing drugs would just be a bit more of a draw. https://www.travelagentcentral.com/destinations/stats-top-three-spring-break-destinations-are-mexico 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 18, 2018 #15 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, Gromdor said: College students still regularly do spring break in Mexico. Drinking age 18 and all that. Legalizing drugs would just be a bit more of a draw. https://www.travelagentcentral.com/destinations/stats-top-three-spring-break-destinations-are-mexico yea because it is cheap, and close, not because of drinking age, i was one of those students decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 18, 2018 #16 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) Mexico’s drug cartels, now hooked on fuel, cripple the country’s refineries. “The business is more profitable than drug trafficking because it implies less risk,” said Georgina Trujillo, a ruling party congresswoman who heads the lower house energy commission. “You don’t have to risk crossing the border to look for a market,” she added. “We all consume gasoline. We don't all consume drugs.” https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/mexico-violence-oil/ cartels are there to make money, if they can not do it with drugs they will find another way, either way cartel violence is not going anywhere, unless they wipe them out Edited July 18, 2018 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 18, 2018 #17 Share Posted July 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, aztek said: yea because it is cheap, and close, not because of drinking age, I think it is a combination of the 3. Drinking age does matter now days. The lure of being able to go into nightclubs is big. a typical 20 year old thinks most nightclubs are glamorous like on TV. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 18, 2018 #18 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, Myles said: I think it is a combination of the 3. Drinking age does matter now days. The lure of being able to go into nightclubs is big. a typical 20 year old thinks most nightclubs are glamorous like on TV. the biggest appeal, is that you are alone, no parents to keep calling you if you 10 min past your time if you are not home yet. there plenty of new girls\guys to hook up with, and that is one of the big reasons kids go there. that they can not do at home, drinking they can do at home. i can guarantee you there is plenty of drinking going on in dorms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted July 18, 2018 #19 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, aztek said: Mexico’s drug cartels, now hooked on fuel, cripple the country’s refineries. “The business is more profitable than drug trafficking because it implies less risk,” said Georgina Trujillo, a ruling party congresswoman who heads the lower house energy commission. “You don’t have to risk crossing the border to look for a market,” she added. “We all consume gasoline. We don't all consume drugs.” https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/mexico-violence-oil/ cartels are there to make money, if they can not do it with drugs they will find another way, either way cartel violence is not going anywhere, unless they wipe them out Yeah. People think gangs and cartels are just mindless animals. But the truth is they are closer to corporations with a private military force. Capitalism at it's most bestial. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 18, 2018 #20 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, aztek said: the biggest appeal, is that you are alone, no parents to keep calling you if you 10 min past your time if you are not home yet. there plenty of new girls\guys to hook up with, and that is one of the big reasons kids go there. that they can not do at home, drinking they can do at home. i can guarantee you there is plenty of drinking going on in dorms Yes, but college age kids under 21 want to go out drinking in clubs. Ohio used to have a drinking age of 18 or 19 back when I was a teen. I knew of many who used to cross the state line in order to go to bars. It was no issue getting booze here in Indiana, but they wanted the bar scene. It may not be the #1 factor, but it certainly plays a part. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 18, 2018 #21 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) Just now, Myles said: Yes, but college age kids under 21 want to go out drinking in clubs. well some prbly do go there to drink, but i did not know many of those in my college years. anyone who wanted to drink, and get into clubs did so. there are few tools, fake id, or someone elses id. those uv ink stamps are very easy to duplicate, some clubs put them on your hand in case you leave and have to comeback, especially since smoking is not allowed inside. but just for the sake of argument i'll agree with you, for some it may very well be the reason Edited July 18, 2018 by aztek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted July 18, 2018 #22 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, aztek said: Mexico’s drug cartels, now hooked on fuel, cripple the country’s refineries. “The business is more profitable than drug trafficking because it implies less risk,” said Georgina Trujillo, a ruling party congresswoman who heads the lower house energy commission. “You don’t have to risk crossing the border to look for a market,” she added. “We all consume gasoline. We don't all consume drugs.” https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/mexico-violence-oil/ cartels are there to make money, if they can not do it with drugs they will find another way, either way cartel violence is not going anywhere, unless they wipe them out They are so intertwined with the Mexican Govt. at this point they may as well be their own country and economy. If the Mexican Drug Cartel could make money trading stocks they would be doing that. They are a huge organization now with their own power and cell phone infrastructure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 18, 2018 #23 Share Posted July 18, 2018 3 hours ago, aztek said: why would anyone go to shthole as mexico to get high legally, when you can do it in a dosen of us states. and why would potheads care if they do it legally or not? I'm talking about ayahuasca and peyote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 18, 2018 #24 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, Piney said: I'm talking about ayahuasca and peyote. i had to google that, but it is very different than regular weed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Caspian Hare Posted July 18, 2018 Author #25 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, aztek said: cartels are there to make money, if they can not do it with drugs they will find another way, either way cartel violence is not going anywhere, unless they wipe them out There will always be organized crime but drugs make them a vastly more powerful by giving them a substance that is literally worth more than gold Edited July 18, 2018 by The Caspian Hare spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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