Popular Post Unusual Tournament Posted July 21, 2018 Popular Post #1 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Archeologists Discover 15 New Temples in Turkey's Gobeklitepe Archeologists have discovered new temples and standing stones in Gobeklitepe, an archeological site located in Turkey's southeastern Sanliurfa province. In an interview, Mehmet Onal, the head of the Archeology Department at Harran University in Sanliurfa, said at least 15 more mega monumental temples and more than 200 standing stones were discovered as part of geophysical surveys in the region. https://www.albawaba.com/editorchoice/archeologists-discover-15-new-temples-turkeys-gobeklitepe-1159166 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 21, 2018 Author #2 Share Posted July 21, 2018 incredible site that keeps surprising. interesting that they estimate that the current dig will go on for at least another 150 years. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistman Posted July 21, 2018 #3 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Here's a (very) short video from Turkish television displaying the overall site of excavations. Not terribly informative, but good visuals for one to get the gist of how it now looks. From a few days ago: 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted July 21, 2018 #4 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I would bet they'll find a lot more. Only a small portion of the site has been excavated. Harte 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 21, 2018 Author #5 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Harte said: I would bet they'll find a lot more. Only a small portion of the site has been excavated. Harte Most certainly they find more as the area has just been described as rich with history. It’s clear that the whole area is religious in nature and signs of everyday life will more than likely be found in the still yet to be excavated areas around the hill. Looking more and more like a civilisation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Harry Posted July 21, 2018 #6 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: Most certainly they find more as the area has just been described as rich with history. It’s clear that the whole area is religious in nature and signs of everyday life will more than likely be found in the still yet to be excavated areas around the hill. Looking more and more like a civilisation. These early megalithic structures are quite interesting. Have you heard of the alleged pyramid off the coast of Okinawa, Japan? It is certainly something that warrants further investigation. Edited July 21, 2018 by Lord Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted July 21, 2018 #7 Share Posted July 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, Lord Harry said: These early megalithic structures are quite interesting. Have you heard of the alleged pyramid off the coast of Okinawa, Japan? It is certainly something that warrants further investigation. That one has been investigated well enough for the non-fringe to say “it’s a natural geologic feature”. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sir Wearer of Hats Posted July 21, 2018 Popular Post #8 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I’m a bit worried for GT actually, there’s a particular brand of extremism in Theism that operates on a “if it’s not in our Holy Book, it’s heretical and should be destroyed” principle. There are wafting suggestions of thst brand taking root in Turkey at the moment. 8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 21, 2018 Author #9 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Lord Harry said: These early megalithic structures are quite interesting. Have you heard of the alleged pyramid off the coast of Okinawa, Japan? It is certainly something that warrants further investigation. yes i have. by all means create a thread so we can all discuss... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted July 21, 2018 #10 Share Posted July 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Captain Risky said: Most certainly they find more as the area has just been described as rich with history. It’s clear that the whole area is religious in nature and signs of everyday life will more than likely be found in the still yet to be excavated areas around the hill. Looking more and more like a civilisation. I'm still hesitant to classify any of this as a civilization, but yes, who knows what the future might reveal? But I also want them to find much more tangible evidence about every-day life, about who these people were and what they believed. We still know almost nothing about them. 6 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 22, 2018 #11 Share Posted July 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said: I'm still hesitant to classify any of this as a civilization, but yes, who knows what the future might reveal? But I also want them to find much more tangible evidence about every-day life, about who these people were and what they believed. We still know almost nothing about them. I have problems with the definition of "civilization". Because we were agro-foresters who basically created a giant self sustaining park-farm and some of our methods still can't be reproduced. Our technology was not "primitive". But "organic" and because of our belief system we did not consider ourselves above nature but part of it and took only what we needed. But our philosophies are similar to Tendai Buddhism. Not that ass backwards Abrahamic dreck. White distortion and cultural destruction turned it into "primitive superstition". We even have a zero in our number system (taallaan) 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted July 22, 2018 #12 Share Posted July 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Lord Harry said: These early megalithic structures are quite interesting. Have you heard of the alleged pyramid off the coast of Okinawa, Japan? It is certainly something that warrants further investigation. It's poop, nothing but natural formations.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonaguni_Monument 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted July 22, 2018 #13 Share Posted July 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Piney said: It's poop, nothing but natural formations.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonaguni_Monument Poop is a natural formation. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted July 22, 2018 #14 Share Posted July 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Captain Risky said: Looking more and more like a civilisation. More stones = civilization? Hardly Harte 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted July 22, 2018 #15 Share Posted July 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: That one has been investigated well enough for the non-fringe to say “it’s a natural geologic feature”. Even the fringe say it's natural. The current fringe claim is that it "may have been used by humans." Big deal. The thing sank 2000 years ago. Harte 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 22, 2018 Author #16 Share Posted July 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Harte said: More stones = civilization? Hardly Harte They’re more than just stones, mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted July 22, 2018 #17 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Lots of cultures carved stones, mate. If you're not carving words, then stone masonry in itself, regardless of flourish, are not even close to a criteria for civilization. Harte 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 22, 2018 Author #18 Share Posted July 22, 2018 41 minutes ago, Harte said: Lots of cultures carved stones, mate. If you're not carving words, then stone masonry in itself, regardless of flourish, are not even close to a criteria for civilization. Harte you're not being asked to judge coke over pepsi. what you are being asked to consider is a sophisticated temple complex that was built 12,000 years ago. a time when we have no records of anyone doing such a thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 22, 2018 Author #19 Share Posted July 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Piney said: I have problems with the definition of "civilization". Because we were agro-foresters who basically created a giant self sustaining park-farm and some of our methods still can't be reproduced. Our technology was not "primitive". But "organic" and because of our belief system we did not consider ourselves above nature but part of it and took only what we needed. But our philosophies are similar to Tendai Buddhism. Not that ass backwards Abrahamic dreck. White distortion and cultural destruction turned it into "primitive superstition". We even have a zero in our number system (taallaan) no offence mate but the builders of Goblekli Tepe were more advanced, way before your people. agro-foresters can not compare with building in stone. you had an organic system only cause you had no other. its specialisation that leeds to a civilisation and there is plenty of that at GT. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 22, 2018 Author #20 Share Posted July 22, 2018 7 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: I’m a bit worried for GT actually, there’s a particular brand of extremism in Theism that operates on a “if it’s not in our Holy Book, it’s heretical and should be destroyed” principle. There are wafting suggestions of thst brand taking root in Turkey at the moment. yeah its a worry. we can only hope that the custodians of such places put their stewardship above politics and religion which is a problem in Turkey since the two are becoming more and more entangled these days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 22, 2018 Author #21 Share Posted July 22, 2018 4 hours ago, kmt_sesh said: I'm still hesitant to classify any of this as a civilization, but yes, who knows what the future might reveal? But I also want them to find much more tangible evidence about every-day life, about who these people were and what they believed. We still know almost nothing about them. well a civilisation by definition is about organisation and social abilities and how they are employed. there's enough of that at GT. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted July 22, 2018 #22 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Captain Risky said: well a civilisation by definition is about organisation and social abilities and how they are employed. there's enough of that at GT. One could argue that agroforestry with its requirement of continued management necessitates far more organisation, social abilities and interaction on the part of a group of people than simply shaping a big rock or two and standing them up. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 22, 2018 Author #23 Share Posted July 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, Jarocal said: One could argue that agroforestry with its requirement of continued management necessitates far more organisation, social abilities and interaction on the part of a group of people than simply shaping a big rock or two and standing them up. depends on who's doing it. does the 'civilisation" thats doing it, using written methods to record, astronomical time keeping, division of labour, surplus food and services that could allow for specialisation, making and improving tools and equipment, displaying art nd sciences? Goblekli Tepe is more than just carved rocks. its about the hidden story behind those temples. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 22, 2018 #24 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Lord Harry said: These early megalithic structures are quite interesting. Have you heard of the alleged pyramid off the coast of Okinawa, Japan? It is certainly something that warrants further investigation. Wait a minute, how far is Okinawa from Turkey? Is this a diversionary tactic? Edited July 22, 2018 by Tatetopa error in Turkey spelling. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted July 22, 2018 #25 Share Posted July 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: depends on who's doing it. does the 'civilisation" thats doing it, using written methods to record, astronomical time keeping, division of labour, surplus food and services that could allow for specialisation, making and improving tools and equipment, displaying art nd sciences? Goblekli Tepe is more than just carved rocks. its about the hidden story behind those temples. If it more than just about carved rocks, why would you make a statement that agroforestry cannot compare to building in stone? Such an assertion seems to place undue importance on a rather simple and mundane task of working to shape stone. How do we know they were temples and not Brothels? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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