+OverSword Posted July 25, 2018 #1 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Quote US media coverage suggests hostility toward diplomatic engagement with Russia as a matter of course. A new HarrisX poll, however, suggests that this is not the view of the majority of the American public, with 54% approving of President Trump inviting Russian President Vladimir Putin to the White House for a second summit. Source So what is it with the press these days? They don't report the news, instead they instruct us how to think and feel. 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted July 25, 2018 #2 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Oh yeah...polls are correct when they say what you want to believe. All the rest of the time, they're bs. Lol. I do not welcome Putin to the White House, and I don't know anyone besides Trump who seems to do so. Not to mention that the antimedia is another conspiracy site, and this probably isn't even a real story. Edited July 25, 2018 by ChaosRose 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 25, 2018 Author #3 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, ChaosRose said: Oh yeah...polls are correct when they say what you want to believe. All the rest of the time, they're bs. Lol. I do not welcome Putin to the White House, and I don't know anyone besides Trump who seems to do so. I have a feeling that if you return to this thread later you won't be able to say that. I don't see how having US/Russia summits could possibly be viewed as a bad thing. Oh, that is unless...Trump...Because Trump bad and we would rather America fail than Trump succeed. Seriously I don't get people these days. I disliked Bush and Obama every inch as much as I dislike trump, yet never once did I hope they would do a bad job or the wrong thing, even though they mostly did just that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted July 25, 2018 #4 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, OverSword said: I have a feeling that if you return to this thread later you won't be able to say that. I don't see how having US/Russia summits could possibly be viewed as a bad thing. Oh, that is unless...Trump...Because Trump bad and we would rather America fail than Trump succeed. Seriously I don't get people these days. I disliked Bush and Obama every inch as much as I dislike trump, yet never once did I hope they would do a bad job or the wrong thing, even though they mostly did just that. Oh I'm sure there will be lots of people claiming to be Americans who will disagree with me. Do you have any real source for this "info?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 25, 2018 #5 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, ChaosRose said: Oh yeah...polls are correct when they say what you want to believe. All the rest of the time, they're bs. Lol. I do not welcome Putin to the White House, and I don't know anyone besides Trump who seems to do so. lol, that is a great argument, well i do, for once, and I'm sure you'll see others do so as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted July 25, 2018 #6 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Here's a poll that most Americans disagree with what Trump did at the Summit. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/polls-most-voters-disapproved-of-trumps-putin-summit.html 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted July 25, 2018 #7 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Here's another poll... most Americans think Putin has dirt on Trump...https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/24/majority-believes-russia-has-dirt-on-trump-poll.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 25, 2018 #8 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, ChaosRose said: Here's a poll that most Americans disagree with what Trump did at the Summit. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/polls-most-voters-disapproved-of-trumps-putin-summit.html Quote Oh yeah...polls are correct when they say what you want to believe. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted July 25, 2018 #9 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Here's another poll where only 33% of Americans approved of the summit. Basically, you can find anything you like. http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-putin-summit-helsinki-poll-american-approval-2018-7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 25, 2018 Author #10 Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Oh I'm sure there will be lots of people claiming to be Americans who will disagree with me. Do you have any real source for this "info?" https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-putin-summit-washington-white-house-poll-americans-support-a8462336.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 25, 2018 Author #11 Share Posted July 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Here's a poll that most Americans disagree with what Trump did at the Summit. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/polls-most-voters-disapproved-of-trumps-putin-summit.html Really? Click your link and the headline is Polls: GOP Voters Think Trump’s Putin Summit Went Great 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted July 25, 2018 #12 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Here's one that says don't buy the polls... https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/trump-helsinki-summit-polls-republican-approval-likely-overstated/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted July 25, 2018 #13 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I'm sure I can find Trump saying don't listen to polls, too. And saying believe them. LOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 25, 2018 Author #14 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, ChaosRose said: Here's one that says don't buy the polls... https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/trump-helsinki-summit-polls-republican-approval-likely-overstated/ Maybe we should start a poll. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 25, 2018 Author #15 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, ChaosRose said: I'm sure I can find Trump saying don't listen to polls, too. And saying believe them. LOL No doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted July 25, 2018 #16 Share Posted July 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, OverSword said: Maybe we should start a poll. Yep...and then every Russian in the world can comment that yes Americans approve. That would be helpful. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted July 25, 2018 #17 Share Posted July 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Oh yeah...polls are correct when they say what you want to believe. All the rest of the time, they're bs. Lol. I do not welcome Putin to the White House, and I don't know anyone besides Trump who seems to do so. Not to mention that the antimedia is another conspiracy site, and this probably isn't even a real story. So you don't believe in any discussion and suggest a total cold war standard with zero communications? Can you explain why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 25, 2018 Author #18 Share Posted July 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, Merc14 said: So you don't believe in any discussion and suggest a total cold war standard with zero communications? Can you explain why? Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted July 25, 2018 Author #19 Share Posted July 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Yep...and then every Russian in the world can comment that yes Americans approve. That would be helpful. LOL As far as we know there are perhaps one or two Russians on UM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted July 25, 2018 #20 Share Posted July 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, Merc14 said: So you don't believe in any discussion and suggest a total cold war standard with zero communications? Can you explain why? Because it's better than being a traitor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted July 25, 2018 #21 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said: Because it's better than being a traitor. In what way is Trump a traitor? 1 hour ago, OverSword said: Trump. This is the same part, the same liberals, that wanted to capitulate to the USSR and railed against Regan for standing up top them and facing them down. I still remember teh worship teh left had for Gorbachev, it was an embarrassment. Now they want war because the Russians did what they always do during our elections., try and create divisiveness. Funny thing is we knew ALL about it and Obama did nothing!. In fact Obama told the cyber-chief to "Stand down." the efforts to thwart the Russian efforts. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/21/obama-cyber-chief-confirms-stand-down-order-against-russian-cyberattacks.html Crickets from annoying on that one. He did it, presumablky, because he knew it was inconsequential and had zero effect and he didn't want Trump saying the Russians swung the election results. LMAO Edited July 25, 2018 by Merc14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted July 25, 2018 #22 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Perhaps this is all moot as the Russians don't appear to be anxious for a fall meeting in Washington: Putin’s Not So Sure He Wants to Meet With Trump in Washington http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/kremlin-deflects-trump-request-for-second-summit-in-dc.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted July 25, 2018 #23 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I welcome Putin to this country. Not as some conquering hero, just as a guest. But I don't know why he would want to come here with the history of our interference in his country because we were spreading Democracy and that made us right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted July 25, 2018 #24 Share Posted July 25, 2018 And here you have it, the latest breaking news: White House pushes follow-up Trump-Putin meeting to next year https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-pushes-follow-up-trump-putin-meeting-to-next-year/2018/07/25/a8e1ed4c-9039-11e8-bcd5-9d911c784c38_story.html The White House on Wednesday pushed to next year President Trump’s planned meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, a move that comes amid intensifying criticism of Trump’s conflicting statements on Russian interference in U.S. elections. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted July 25, 2018 #25 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, OverSword said: Really? Click your link and the headline is Polls: GOP Voters Think Trump’s Putin Summit Went Great Anyone in this forum that thinks the summit went "great", what is the reasoning behind that? Was it the behind closed doors meeting, or standing in front of the press with his tail between his legs "misspeaking"? I am genuinely curious to find out the "great" part. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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