ShadowSot Posted July 26, 2018 #76 Share Posted July 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Titus Maximus said: So why is earth a round rock ? I've mentioned accretion disc several times now. Be worth looking that up at some point. If you want to argue against something you should know what you're arguing against. You have the accretion disc. Matter clumps together. As matter compresses heat increases. Bombardment melts the surface repeatedly. Spinning melted remains of the accretion disc's. Which also helps explain why they all save one rotate the same way. Something your idea doesn't account for. Gravity pulls all things towards a central point. Sort of. More complicated than that, but that works at our level of things. When its strong enough it collapses things into a roughly spheroid shape, depending on the density of the surface. 2 minutes ago, Titus Maximus said: And mars and mercury and all the other planets we assume the surface is a rock but the sun has no way of ever being or ever will be a solid Not exactly. Maybe look up stellar life cycles too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Maximus Posted July 26, 2018 Author #77 Share Posted July 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, ShadowSot said: I've mentioned accretion disc several times now. Be worth looking that up at some point. If you want to argue against something you should know what you're arguing against. You have the accretion disc. Matter clumps together. As matter compresses heat increases. Bombardment melts the surface repeatedly. Spinning melted remains of the accretion disc's. Which also helps explain why they all save one rotate the same way. Something your idea doesn't account for. Gravity pulls all things towards a central point. Sort of. More complicated than that, but that works at our level of things. When its strong enough it collapses things into a roughly spheroid shape, depending on the density of the surface. Not exactly. Maybe look up stellar life cycles too? I looked up to see it plasma can form into a solid and it absolutely can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted July 26, 2018 #78 Share Posted July 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Titus Maximus said: I looked up to see it plasma can form into a solid and it absolutely can Ah, we're back to this. Yes. States of matter can change. In the same way liquids turn to solids or to a gas. But the sun is made up of hydrogen and helium, until it reaches the end of its life cycle. Solar plasma is hydrogen and helium. It will cool to hydrogen and helium gas. Then hydrogen and helium liquid. Then hydrogen and helium solids. Again, you aren't understanding why we're stressing the difference between elements and states of matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted July 26, 2018 #79 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Damn, another Weitter, if not worse... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma_Acid Posted July 26, 2018 #80 Share Posted July 26, 2018 This thread is hilarious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Maximus Posted July 26, 2018 Author #81 Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, ShadowSot said: Ah, we're back to this. Yes. States of matter can change. In the same way liquids turn to solids or to a gas. But the sun is made up of hydrogen and helium, until it reaches the end of its life cycle. Solar plasma is hydrogen and helium. It will cool to hydrogen and helium gas. Then hydrogen and helium liquid. Then hydrogen and helium solids. Again, you aren't understanding why we're stressing the difference between elements and states of matter. So if that’s all the sun is made up from are we able to re engineer a miniature sun in the lab. but the thing is that’s not all the sun is made up of there’s sulfar iron magnesium neon silicon oxygen nitrogen carbon helium and hydrogen all in plasma form. Some of these elements can form solids. So when a piece of plasma spits from the sun yes it is mostly hydrogen and helium but there’s no evidence to say tiny molecules don’t form like sand and soot, those tiny molecules could be after billions of years clumped together so much that it does begin forming a larger sphere, I can’t see why it’s so hard to understand Edited July 26, 2018 by Titus Maximus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted July 26, 2018 #82 Share Posted July 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Titus Maximus said: So if that’s all the sun is made up from are we able to re engineer a miniature sun in the lab We're trying to. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/mar/09/nuclear-fusion-on-brink-of-being-realised-say-mit-scientists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Maximus Posted July 26, 2018 Author #83 Share Posted July 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Essan said: We're trying to. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/mar/09/nuclear-fusion-on-brink-of-being-realised-say-mit-scientists Right but that’s not the only elements in the sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted July 26, 2018 #84 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Titus Maximus said: Right but that’s not the only elements in the sun Nope, but the majority. And not clumped or located on the exterior or where flares happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Maximus Posted July 26, 2018 Author #85 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadowSot said: Nope, but the majority. And not clumped or located on the exterior or where flares happen. Read the larger text I wrote please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted July 28, 2018 #86 Share Posted July 28, 2018 On 7/26/2018 at 11:56 PM, Titus Maximus said: Read the larger text I wrote please Let me ask you, why can't you find scientific books on stellar evolution, planet formation? If you can't find by yourself, just ask. Anyway, all your blabberings are just that - blabberings of drunk amoeba, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Maximus Posted August 12, 2018 Author #87 Share Posted August 12, 2018 On 28/07/2018 at 1:42 PM, bmk1245 said: Let me ask you, why can't you find scientific books on stellar evolution, planet formation? If you can't find by yourself, just ask. Anyway, all your blabberings are just that - blabberings of drunk amoeba, nothing more. Well I don’t drink alcohol, and there are no books to look into what I want to know, the main thing that made me think about this is that the earth and sun are gradually moving apart and there’s no explanation why.. not today anyway. Now the only thing I personally can think of is that when you take two magnets which are the same they will repel against each other. Seeing as earth has a magnetic field and so does the sun I’m assuming something similar would happen to them too, if i snap a tiny part of a north magnet and place it next to its old self, which one is going to move away ? The big one of the small one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted August 12, 2018 #88 Share Posted August 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Titus Maximus said: Well I don’t drink alcohol Maybe you should start? 8 hours ago, Titus Maximus said: and there are no books to look into what I want to know Yes, if you don't visit the library, or close your eyes when you do, and have no idea about how to research.... you won't find anything that backs up your silly claims. 8 hours ago, Titus Maximus said: the earth and sun are gradually moving apart True. 8 hours ago, Titus Maximus said: and there’s no explanation why.. not today anyway. FALSE - we do know why. 1. Sun is losing mass. Duh. 2. Tidal effects. The effects are TINY. Start here: http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/41-our-solar-system/the-earth/orbit/83-is-the-distance-from-the-earth-to-the-sun-changing-advanced How come you couldn't find even the very first link I got when searching for a simple explanatory link (on obvious keywords)? 8 hours ago, Titus Maximus said: Now the only thing I personally can think of is that when you take two magnets.. Stop .. posting .. gibberish. Your trying to solve problems that don't exist, with 'solutions' that make little sense. We *know* how magnetic fields work, and we know how strong those fields are (not very).. Magnetic forces fall away very quickly with distance, and about the only interaction is that particles from solar CME's and the like interact with Earth's magnetic field when they reach here, causing aurorae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted August 14, 2018 #89 Share Posted August 14, 2018 On 8/12/2018 at 4:13 PM, Titus Maximus said: Well I don’t drink alcohol, and there are no books to look into what I want to know, the main thing that made me think about this is that the earth and sun are gradually moving apart and there’s no explanation why.. not today anyway. Now the only thing I personally can think of is that when you take two magnets which are the same they will repel against each other. Seeing as earth has a magnetic field and so does the sun I’m assuming something similar would happen to them too, if i snap a tiny part of a north magnet and place it next to its old self, which one is going to move away ? The big one of the small one.... ChrLzs already pointed out, so I won't delve in it. I'll just recommend to read "Astrophysics of Planet Formation", Philip J. Armitage, Cambridge University Press (2009) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted August 19, 2018 #90 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Titus Maximus, had you read book you were suggested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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