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Rare Hurricane of Fire Event in Redding, CA

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As the horrific scenes unfold, we're learning of a rare phenomena that occurred last Thursday night, which is being reported by firefighters who were working the Carr Fire near Redding, CA. This is not the usual short lived firenado that we're accustomed to seeing on YouTube, which often forms on the boundary of a large fire. This is something much larger in size ... and is essentially, a hurricane of fire.

The terrifying science behind whirling ‘fire vortex’ in Shasta’s Carr Fire inferno - The Mercury News  July 27, 2018

“This giant rotating cylinder on top of the fire, composed of smoke, pulls burning embers and smoldering debris thousands of feet into the atmosphere,” he said.

It allows fire to jump over barriers, such as roads, rivers and bulldozed firebreaks, he said. “It causes it to do crazy, very unpredictable things.”

What’s behind the phenomenon?

The Redding fire is not driven by stiff winds, as witnessed in Santa Rosa, the Oakland hills and other fatal California wildfires, he said. Instead, the fire created its own heat source, aided by an afternoon sun that baked the ground with air temperatures to 113 degrees.

 

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How the Carr Fire morphed into a towering, deadly "fire tornado" - AXIOS 7-30-2018

Between the lines: The Carr Fire's rotating smoke plume acted as a chimney, venting heat and smoke away from the blaze, and sucking in air from surrounding areas. Plume-dominated fires, Lareau told Axios, occur in settings with relatively light winds but plenty of instability in the atmosphere, and their behavior can be erratic.

What's so rare, though, is to have a large part of the plume spinning like a tornado one might see in Oklahoma, creating damaging winds on its periphery, and rendering firefighting efforts futile.

  • Lareau said when the rotating part of the smoke plume intensified, the top of the smoke plume suddenly ballooned from 18,000 feet high to 38,000 feet, a feat that might not have been possible otherwise.
  • This growth sucked more air into the fire, and indicates it was burning hotter.

A key area of inquiry is how the fire's exhaust plume began rotating in the first place, at around 6:50 p.m. local time on July 27. By 7:45 p.m., the core of the vortex had stretched vertically all the way to 15,000 feet, a phenomena normally seen in intense tornadoes.

 

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and then

Hamburg, Cologne and Dresden and to a lesser extent, Coventry all suffered true firestorms.  Superheated rising air created a low-pressure system at the center of the conflagrations and hurricane force winds developed from outside the immediate fires to feed them with oxygen.  The result was the equivalent of a fire hurricane.  IMO these events were far worse on the humans involved than were the two atomic bombs.  

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This is perhaps the best shot of the firecane, where you can actually hear the thing ...

 

And another ...

 

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More amazing evidence beginning to come to light .... that this was no ordinary fire. This was a completely different animal ...

 

 

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I can't recall ever seeing anything like this cloud, associated with any fire. This fire had "Doom" written on it.

 

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Not only is what happened near Redding, CA rare, it has apparently never been observed before. At least not in the United States, associated with a forest fire. Someone has mentioned fire storms following the bombing of cities during WWII, but we have no reports of pipes wrapped around trees like this, or other curious things, observed only in true cyclone winds.

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Credit:  Craig Clements

The National Weather Service was apparently so surprised to see the strength of the "weather phenomenon" that they are grasping at straws to describe it. It makes sense that when you're dealing with new phenomena, the right words wouldn't come to mind.

'Apocalyptic' Aftermath

is the description being used by some who have seen the unusual phenomenon up close and personal.

Given the public and the media are now using Biblical terms to describe the new phenomenon, and given that California, at least in terms of Manifest Destiny ... is "the darkened sea," I'm not surprised to see the Earth rise to the occasion, producing a new phenomenon within only hours.

On 7/26/2018 at 3:31 AM, Raptor Witness said:

....  they are walking, talking, tombstones, who will live to see America destroyed by the sword that guards the Tree of Life. It has already begun, and it shall sweep fire from sea to darkened sea, until only the lie remains.

 

Redding fire whirl - Wikipedia

A powerful fire whirl with winds estimated in excess of 143 mph (230 km/h)—equivalent to an EF3 tornado—developed within the Carr fire in Redding, California on July 26. Remaining on the ground from 7:30 p.m. to 8:00 p.m., the fire whirl reached an estimated height of 18,000 ft (5,500 m) and caused extensive tornado-like damage while spreading the fire.[32][33] The winds toppled transmission towers, shredded foliage, and debarked and uprooted trees. The smoke plume from the whirl "dominated" the majority of the wildfire.[33] Substantial damage occurred in areas untouched by fire, including signs of ground scouring.[32] Three people were killed inside their Redding home after the structure's walls were blown out and the roof collapsed on the occupants. Several other homes suffered significant roof damage. Craig Clements of San Jose State University's Fire Weather Research Laboratory stated conditions have to be perfect for a fire whirl of this intensity to develop.[34]

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The big fire near Osborn Idaho at the turn of the century was one of the factors that drove establishment of the Forest Service by Theodore Roosevelt and Gifford Pinchot.  Fire watch towers and forest service roads about that time too.  Maybe on the negative side it is about the time all fires were fought and fuel loads built up all over.  Then when a fire did start it burned hotter.

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34 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

The big fire near Osborn Idaho at the turn of the century was one of the factors that drove establishment of the Forest Service by Theodore Roosevelt and Gifford Pinchot.  Fire watch towers and forest service roads about that time too.  Maybe on the negative side it is about the time all fires were fought and fuel loads built up all over.  Then when a fire did start it burned hotter.

We have always had forest fires in this part of the country, but we were not having catastrophic fire seasons year after year until the logging industry was exiled and reduced to a cottage-industry by EnviroMENTAL cases and their "let-it-burn" madness. This needs to be reversed, we need to harvest our own timber and stop importing it from Canada... who somehow manage to cut down trees without collapsing their eco-systems and turn a handy profit while doing so. 

These self-inflicted Natural Disasters need to be stopped.

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On 8/6/2018 at 12:56 AM, AnchorSteam said:

We have always had forest fires in this part of the country, but we were not having catastrophic fire seasons year after year until the logging industry was exiled and reduced to a cottage-industry by EnviroMENTAL cases and their "let-it-burn" madness. This needs to be reversed, we need to harvest our own timber and stop importing it from Canada... who somehow manage to cut down trees without collapsing their eco-systems and turn a handy profit while doing so. 

These self-inflicted Natural Disasters need to be stopped.

The American Indians were notorious for starting fires to help encourage new plant growth, and the resulting animal growth. However they were usually dealing with virgin timber, which is likely more resilient to these types of fires.

What we're seeing now are fires that are able to burn much faster than they would through virgin forest.

If I lived in California, I would be looking for the exit ramp, and I wouldn't look back, for fear of turning into a pillar of salt.

California's Viral Fire Tornado Has Scientists Searching For Answers - Earther 8-9-2018

"Either way, the vortex was a beast. A preliminary analysis by National Weather Service and CalFire estimated maximum wind-speeds in excess of 143 mph, making it the equivalent of an EF-3 on an intensity scale of 0-5. The twister lasted over an hour, toppling power lines and uprooting trees."

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AnchorSteam

THis is still going on.

Afater a couple of days of thinking we were out of the worst of it, its just as bad as ever again.

The smoke is making people wear masks, people are moving out and tourism tanked. 

 

A quarter of a million acres, one year, half a million then next.... hell, looks like the problem will sort itself out in a way nobody saw coming-

At this rate, there won't be any tress left to burn down in a decade or less. 

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