psyche101 Posted August 30, 2018 #1751 Share Posted August 30, 2018 49 minutes ago, Will Due said: It only seems that way because you keep letting the religious facts get in the way of the spiritual truth. Nope, that's the facts. You are clearly delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 30, 2018 #1752 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: In that case everything. He's not trying to convince anyone. He's here because he has the time to be here. so that's a derogatory opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 30, 2018 #1753 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Habitat said: You are refreshingly aloof from the football fan mentality that pervades the place so why do you bother conversion with people like me then? what is your point? are you trying to convert me? if not then AGAIN: why are you here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted August 30, 2018 #1754 Share Posted August 30, 2018 You are the forum hooligan, jarma ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 30, 2018 #1755 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Habitat said: You are the forum hooligan, jarma ! why do you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted August 30, 2018 #1756 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Dejarma said: why do you say that? Your demeanour, perhaps ? And there was an illusion to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted August 30, 2018 #1757 Share Posted August 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, psyche101 said: Ohh your on a roll today!!!! That's Hillarious coming from you !!!!!! I am really quite measured in my comments, imo, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 30, 2018 #1758 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, Habitat said: Your demeanour, perhaps ? And there was an illusion to football. you can't tell me & everyone else why you are here then? maybe GD is right= your just here for something to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted August 30, 2018 #1759 Share Posted August 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, Habitat said: No proof for you, ample proof for me, and I don't jump to conclusions. And that is proper. It is proof, for you, and no one else. And you seem intelligent enough to realize that your personal experience cannot serve to sway others. Mostly because they would not be believing in your experience, but in you. I have my own evidence for believe in some sort of existence beyond death. Can I prove it to anyone? Nope. I could talk about it, but that wouldn't prove it happened. Can I explain it? Nope. But I know it happened and was corroborated by 2 other people who experienced the same event. But a 4th person present neither felt, heard, or saw anything and believed that we 3 were pulling a prank. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted August 30, 2018 #1760 Share Posted August 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Dejarma said: so that's a derogatory opinion? It's an observation. Do I, or my opinions, have to be especially derogatory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted August 30, 2018 #1761 Share Posted August 30, 2018 14 hours ago, psyche101 said: As usual, you're the minority on this one. That is one of the issues with bullying. The majority often do not act against it, for a variety of reasons. That doesn't make it any less bullying. Bullying is NOT just a matter of perception, but a defined form of behaving. Ie bullying is bullying, whether you see it as such, or not . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 30, 2018 #1762 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Jodie.Lynne said: nd that is proper. It is proof, for you, and no one else. And you seem intelligent enough to realize that your personal experience cannot serve to sway others. Mostly because they would not be believing in your experience, but in you. yes exactly= good words imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted August 30, 2018 #1763 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Black Red Devil said: How far is lateral? As far as he can take it at times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted August 30, 2018 #1764 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dejarma said: ... maybe GD is right ... Maybe?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 30, 2018 #1765 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: It's an observation. Do I, or my opinions, have to be especially derogatory? do you agree with/ stand with (IMO) the rubbish put forward by the obvious in question here? yes or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted August 30, 2018 #1766 Share Posted August 30, 2018 12 hours ago, Liquid Gardens said: I would argue that it is not possible using internet comments to provoke someone who has, truly, mastered their negative emotions. And indeed it doesn't work on me. T he only time i took offence is when sherapy labelled my parents child abusers, which was a bit OTT even for me. However it is the principle which is important. Whether bullying is effective or not, is not the issue. It is the bullying behaviour which is wrong. Bullies KNOW the hurt their words cause, and in part that is why they use them. They enjoy hurting others, often to make themselves feel better, or when they cant win an argument based on facts and logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted August 30, 2018 #1767 Share Posted August 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Guyver said: All of our futures are the same. We're all going to die. So....I'm not really sure where you're coming from here. lol and we are all going to breathe oxygen. Sorry but that doesn't mean my future is the same as yours, nor that I have only one fixed future available to me. Death is a moment, in a life that can span a century You can make a lot of different choices in a century, and create a lot of difference in the world . You can choose and alter every second of your life, one second at a time, and even the fact of your death is not so important. It is the nature of the death you choose, which is significant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted August 30, 2018 #1768 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Habitat said: So, for example, yesterday you saw a flying saucer hovering overhead, but there were no other witnesses, and you didn't get a picture. Was that a fact, a philosophy, disinformation, or lies ? Actually, I did see a UFO a few days, ago; three, actually. It was like a classic UFO encounter the three merged in to one garish orange light and faded away and I did get a picture so I know it happened even if it's just of an auburn light in the sky. As for your question that would be unverifiable, un corroborated and unsubstantiated testimony. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted August 30, 2018 #1769 Share Posted August 30, 2018 5 hours ago, XenoFish said: I'm rather concerned for this almost obsessive fascination with Sherapy that Walker has. Kinda creepy. just a matter of reciprocation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 30, 2018 #1770 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: Bullies KNOW the hurt their words cause, and in part that is why they use them. They enjoy hurting others, but your words hurt me!!! i feel you're insulting my intelligence.. am i allowed to say that? is that politically/ forum incorrect!? i feel you're bullying me via the rapid barrage of (what i class as utter BS) it works both ways my friend Edited August 30, 2018 by Dejarma 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted August 30, 2018 #1771 Share Posted August 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: That is one of the issues with bullying. The majority often do not act against it, for a variety of reasons. That doesn't make it any less bullying. Bullying is NOT just a matter of perception, but a defined form of behaving. Ie bullying is bullying, whether you see it as such, or not . Dont care what you think, your opinion is worthless. That's why your airways the minority and wrong 9.9 times out of 10. Will was, and is being an ass because he has nothing else to offer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted August 30, 2018 #1772 Share Posted August 30, 2018 4 hours ago, DieChecker said: The education argument I think hasn't been proven. Having better education may, or may not, lead to more atheists. I don't think we can see that trend yet. I do know that many say that bring better education to places like India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, have substantially dropped birth rates and decreased the subjugation of woman. So, it may be that in a generation, or two, or three, we might see atheism rates in such countries significantly increasing. But that also requires that nations, like those in the EU, remain on a socialist/enlightened path. Current world trends are heading toward conservatism, and I've wondered over the last couple years if that might also cause a resurgence in Christianity in Europe. I'm waiting to see what happens with that. Perhaps, but it gives people both data/knoldge and critical thinking skills which allow them to see alternatives This gives them choices that ealry humans never had, and will mean that some will decide on a purely materialist rationalist approach to ife Until recently, the statistics showed that the more educated you were in Australia, the more likely you were to be religious. But that reflected the social nature and place of religion in Australia. eg the most wealthy and powerful sent their kids to private religious schools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted August 30, 2018 #1773 Share Posted August 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, Habitat said: I am really quite measured in my comments, imo, of course. Most definitely in your own opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 30, 2018 #1774 Share Posted August 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: So, it may be that in a generation, or two, or three, we might see atheism rates in such countries significantly increasing. so for you that's a bad thing i take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted August 30, 2018 #1775 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 hours ago, psyche101 said: I'm not going to. You would like to have a rational mind leave your ridiculous claims alone, that's what the belief section is for, I don't bother you there. But in here, I will point out just how ridiculous your claims are. That's a sign of respect, which I am quite sure is something you would not recognise Every negative comment you have received is well deserved. You have tickets on yourself that you can't cash in. What a load of crap. You want to make noise and get noticed. You're an old man who nobody listens to anymore, the only people who do listen are as delusional as you are. If you had an ounce of compassion for your fellow person you would have dropped this as I specifically and clearly requested but you need to get the spotlight. Your pathetic, I take back every positive comment I have made about you. This is disgusting behaviour and you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Your experience must be minimal. You couldn't find your own backside with two hands and a road map. No your not, you're the opposite. I have professional help, your posting illustrates just how far apart your advice is from professional advice. They are all dealing with their problems, not imagining a God to deal with them for them. What you think makes you special makes you special alright, just not how you think it does. Oh I assure you it is you. Nobody asks you for advice, but we do turn to posters who do understand the troubles people find in life. Posters like Sheri. You could never be half the person she is. lol just proved my whole point i think . Your mind is rational but has such cognitive bias regarding religion tha t your logic leads you to false conclusions People here annoy and disappoint me at times, but only because they make things personal, preventing logical and rational debate If they could stick to factual and logical arguments i would not have any problem with anyone The words you use constantly, illustrate my complaint I have highlighted the pejorative and personal attacks in this post alone You spend your time attacking me rather than explaining why and how you form your own beliefs and opinions. You are not obliged to listen to a word I say, but you do need to look inside yourself to ask why those words make you so angry, and also why you refuse to simply ignore them. Your words cant hurt me because i know the y are untrue . For example, i know my counselling was effective. I've had professional and personal feedback from many including a number who simply came up to me later to tell me i had saved their lives, and given them purpose . I do wish you the best with the professional care you are getting. If it is any good, it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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