Spamm Posted August 27, 2018 #1 Share Posted August 27, 2018 So I'm just curious of how many of you out there have heard of Bethel church of redding, CA. If you have any info or interesting inquiries about them I'm happy to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted August 27, 2018 #2 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Welcome to UM Spamm... can you tell us what your CT is supposed to be about please? How is this church supposed to be a cult? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 27, 2018 #3 Share Posted August 27, 2018 From the looks of it they are very cultish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethel_Church_(Redding,_California)#Bethel_School_of_Supernatural_Ministry Quote People associated with Bethel, including the pastor, have made many statements about miracles and healing that have taken place at the church, including gold dust appearing in the auditorium [1] and people being brought back from the dead.[12] 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted August 27, 2018 #4 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Oooooo...... tough crowd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted August 27, 2018 #5 Share Posted August 27, 2018 But, as Piney stated, they very much appear to fit into what a reasonable person would consider a "cult", irrespective of the supposed religious foundation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted August 27, 2018 #6 Share Posted August 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Robotic Jew said: Just say Christianity and move on. Apparently not: Quote "There’s so much nonsense coming out of Redding that I frankly don’t have time to catalogue it all for you.” When I later asked him to elaborate, he said Bethel “constitutes a whole different message from biblical Christianity” that is “totally devoid of any true and consistent proclamation of the gospel.” https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2016/may/cover-story-inside-popular-controversial-bethel-church.html But they do have a lot of followers and for a church, are doing quite well financially Quote With an average weekly attendance of 8,684 and a yearly operating budget of over $9 million, the church provides offices and facilities for Bethel’s other ministries. How much!!!? Jeeze, all those adverts on tv asking for aid....why do they not just ask this church? And here is one of the adverts in the above link https://www.christianitytoday.org/partner-with-us/ And people fall for all of these scams!!!..that is scary. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 27, 2018 #7 Share Posted August 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, pallidin said: But, as Piney stated, they very much appear to fit into what a reasonable person would consider a "cult", irrespective of the supposed religious foundation. They just attracted my attention for another reason. I'm digging around on these folks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter of the Nine Moons Posted August 27, 2018 #8 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Spamm said: So I'm just curious of how many of you out there have heard of Bethel church of redding, CA. If you have any info or interesting inquiries about them I'm happy to hear. Hi Spamm, welcome to UM. I'm happy to hear your thoughts 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted August 27, 2018 #9 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Agreed. I hate nothing more than religious scam artists... They rape people's monies with their "fluffy" talk. The elderly are especially vulnerable. Talk, talk, talk, talk. ZERO results for the persons giving money to them, but a 100% result in those particular church leaders living a lavish lifestyle. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 27, 2018 #10 Share Posted August 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, pallidin said: Agreed. I hate nothing more than religious scam artists... They rape people's monies with their "fluffy" talk. The elderly are especially vulnerable. Talk, talk, talk, talk. ZERO results for the persons giving money to them, but a 100% result in those particular church leaders living a lavish lifestyle. https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2017/09/global-legacy-all-nations-church.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 27, 2018 #11 Share Posted August 27, 2018 http://www.piratechristian.com/messedupchurch/2018/2/10-reasons-why-bethel-redding-is-a-false-church I've seen one of the youth pastors before. In a mugshot I think........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted August 27, 2018 #12 Share Posted August 27, 2018 JEEZE Quote This enables him to share the following messages: God is going to pour out blessings onto Bethel Church; The project of museum to the glory of the “Revival Generals” is supported; Bill Johnson has a role of guide; A lot of money needs to be given to Bill Johnson/Bethel Church. trust Bill https://bewatchful.org/2016/01/02/spiritualism-or-scam-within-bethel-church-and-the-new-apostolic-reformation/ Here is a bit from the above link, i have cut out the uninteresting parts to cut straight to the point: Quote Someone in the room raises their voice, but instead of talking to them, Shawn Bolz ignores them and directly talks to Bill Johnson about his father: Blar blar blar then this: None of these pieces of information prove that they were revealed to Shawn Bolz. With a quick internet search, one can find out about Bill Johnson’s father and the fact that the family lived in Minnesota. The Swedish roots are not difficult to discover either. And let’s not forget that Shawn Bolz is a close friend of Bill Johnson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted August 27, 2018 #13 Share Posted August 27, 2018 And Piney, my disgust for such types of people is so severe, that full expression would get me in trouble on UM. All I can express is that I seriously hate religious scam artists and the irrecoverable financial harm they inflict on the one's we love, and everyone. They...are...b*******...highest level. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 27, 2018 #14 Share Posted August 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, pallidin said: And Piney, my disgust for such types of people is so severe, that full expression would get me in trouble on UM. Me too! You don't even want to know what I've done to a couple of local ones...... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted August 27, 2018 #15 Share Posted August 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Piney said: http://www.piratechristian.com/messedupchurch/2018/2/10-reasons-why-bethel-redding-is-a-false-church I've seen one of the youth pastors before. In a mugshot I think........ We are both finding articles about these scammers and none of our links match. Just shows the warnings are out there, so on that note: 2 hours ago, Spamm said: So I'm just curious of how many of you out there have heard of Bethel church of redding, CA. If you have any info or interesting inquiries about them I'm happy to hear. Well we have some info above for you. Why did you want to know, were you considering going along or were you doing some advertising for them? I do hope you read the links we have shown so far and stay well clear of these scammers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted August 27, 2018 #16 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) Spamm? Unusual avvi. Wonder if it is? Well you are getting nothing positive from us and hope the religious people reading this will see what scammers the cult is. Edited August 27, 2018 by freetoroam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted August 27, 2018 #17 Share Posted August 27, 2018 32 minutes ago, Daughter of the Nine Moons said: Hi Spamm, welcome to UM. I'm happy to hear your thoughts I think Spamm could be....just that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted August 27, 2018 #18 Share Posted August 27, 2018 And if that weird "church" ever goes "televangelist" I am going to blow even another gasket. Televangelist's are so scummy that, >>> watch your words, pallidin <<< I would have no problem doing blah, blah, blah to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Caspian Hare Posted August 27, 2018 #19 Share Posted August 27, 2018 A church that sells hundred-dollar puppets? Looks weird. https://brucegerencser.net/2016/02/bethel-redding-dangerous-evangelical-cult/ I think Vintz would give me nightmares. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted August 27, 2018 #20 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, pallidin said: And if that weird "church" ever goes "televangelist" I am going to blow even another gasket. Televangelist's are so scummy that, >>> watch your words, pallidin <<< I would have no problem doing blah, blah, blah to them. It would not surprise me if that is what they are planning. Maybe they will get someone on here to spam us......oh wait! Edited August 27, 2018 by freetoroam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted August 27, 2018 #21 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Caspian Hare said: A church that sells hundred-dollar puppets? Looks weird. https://brucegerencser.net/2016/02/bethel-redding-dangerous-evangelical-cult/ I think Vintz would give me nightmares. Have i misunderstood that....$100? Surely that can not be right. Edited August 27, 2018 by freetoroam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted August 28, 2018 #22 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Well, that looks a little creepy. And naturally, they got featured on CBN and TBN. Pentecostals always seem pretty fringe, but the way they donated money to fund the police and then got this huge project approved...it's just weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bivy Posted September 14, 2018 #23 Share Posted September 14, 2018 All I know about them is they're big in the Christian music scene now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted September 14, 2018 #24 Share Posted September 14, 2018 A very slow envelopment, imo, started in 1954 ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Not A Rockstar Posted September 14, 2018 #25 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Reminds me somewhat of the Brownsville cult that sprang up and spread in the Assembly of God Church a couple decades ago now. Nasty stuff and if you never believed in demonic, just sit through one of their revivals and "outpourings" and you will wonder. That was some of the most freaky ….stuff.... I have ever seen. Bizarro world and not Christianity, it was all that get rich quick God will bless you with everything you ever wanted garbage. The servant is NOT greater than the Master. Wonder if any of these names turn up there also. That was bad juju. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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