M6 Motorway - Cheshire's 'Bermuda Triangle'

[oldrover]

9 minutes ago, acute said:

It is rare for a new or relatively new car in the UK to not have daytime 'driving lights'.  I assume it's an EU edict, and (IMHO) a welcome one.

I'm quite surprised I didn't know this. 

[Kittens Are Jerks]

12 hours ago, Mike Brooker said:

I 'personally' believe there is something supernatural that has attached itself to this particular stretch of Motorway... when 'science' holds it's hands up and is at a complete loss to explain this plethora of accidents / incidents between junctions 17 and 19 of the M6; there is perhaps an alternate explanation.

Not at all convinced science is at a loss. Each and every accident has an explanation.

 

[acute]

Is there a different road surface between those junctions, such as laid by a Guntert & Zimmerman Slipform Paver?  (like the M42 near Birmingham)

[Timothy]

Thanks for the honest reply @Mike Brooker, it’s refreshing to have someone respond with their complete stance on the topic.

IMHO, as others have said, it probably just comes down to mundane factors. And the fact that you haven’t done statistical analysis has me wondering why you would jump to a paranormal conclusion, rather than investigate logically.

But yes if you could elaborate on the burial site side of it, I’m sure some would be interested in that. 

[Black Monk]

The M6 - Roman soldiers, a distraught woman hitchhiker and a phantom lorry going the wrong way 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/oct/31/britishidentity.martinwainwright

[Space Commander Travis]

"Brooker remains adamant that the explanation for the blackspot is supernatural in nature."

God bless 'im. We need more people who are convinced the explanation for anything must be supernatural in nature rather than, for instance, anything humdrum and prosaic.

Edited September 17, 2018 by Vlad the Mighty

[Piney]

The "black spot" where the smart phones inexplicably ring. 

[Stiff]

14 minutes ago, Vlad the Mighty said:

We need more people who are convinced the explanation for anything must be supernatural in nature rather than, for instance, anything humdrum and prosaic.

Don't worry, he'll be along anytime soon. He'll probably wet his pants at this one.

[Inn Spectre]

1 hour ago, Vlad the Mighty said:

"Brooker remains adamant that the explanation for the blackspot is supernatural in nature."

God bless 'im. We need more people who are convinced the explanation for anything must be supernatural in nature rather than, for instance, anything humdrum and prosaic.

So if you were to:

a) Witness a car disappearing in front of you,

Drive through a column of Roman soldiers without damage.

c) Pick up a hitch-hiker who promptly vanishes without opening a door.

What would be your explanation?

[Stiff]

15 minutes ago, Inn Spectre said:

So if you were to:

a) Witness a car disappearing in front of you,

What would be your explanation?

Well, due to my works van being fairly asthmatic, most vehicles disappear in front of me. 

[danydandan]

On 28/8/2018 at 11:03 AM, Mike Brooker said:

For decades now, the amount of accidents on the M6 Motorway between junctions 17 and 19 is completely unprecedented and statistically, this is without doubt one of the worst 'accident black-spots' on any Motorway network in the UK.

Motorway officials, the Highway agency and numerous traffic management bodies have literally spent years and vast amounts of money and resources, trying to understand what makes that stretch of the motorway, both North and Southbound so treacherous... to date, they have no explanation whatsoever....

I have also pondered this over the years and have conducted some research into this phenomenon. I was amazed at just how many people had posed this very same question over the decades. There appear to be two principal answers that come up, one is that the Motorway was built on a Roman burial site and the other, is that it was the site of the slaughter of a number of the Scottish army dating back over 200 years.

There is no clear evidence either way to support or substantiate these claims but what is clear is that something is very wrong to cause so many accidents on what is to all intents and purposes and fairly straight stretch of road.

I 'personally' believe there is something supernatural that has attached itself to this particular stretch of Motorway... when 'science' holds it's hands up and is at a complete loss to explain this plethora of accidents / incidents between junctions 17 and 19 of the M6; there is perhaps an alternate explanation. In my role as a Psychic Medium and Paranormal investigator, I am currently conducting my own personal investigation into this phenomenon and would appreciate any experiences, thought's and views that you may have.

Can you describe your methodology for your investigation?

[spud the mackem]

Put a 50 mph restriction with speed cameras on that stretch as they have on the junction of the M4 & M5, this has stopped a lot of accidents. 

[Silver Surfer]

Sounds like Brooker needs to get a real job.

[L.A.T.1961]

6 hours ago, spud the mackem said:

Put a 50 mph restriction with speed cameras on that stretch as they have on the junction of the M4 & M5, this has stopped a lot of accidents. 

This is what is happening now, a managed/smart motorway system using variable speed limits, enforcement cameras, and converting the hard shoulder to use as an extra lane.

It is only a short term fix though as the existing traffic, at peak times, will already take up the extra capacity. 

So unfortunately I would expect there to be accidents to 'investigate' for the foreseeable future.    

[Smidge]

I've driven that stretch of motorway a few times.  It is a b***** at dusk when it is really busy.  It needs to be lit up.

[Redefining Success]

On 28/08/2018 at 11:28 PM, acute said:

It is rare for a new or relatively new car in the UK to not have daytime 'driving lights'.  I assume it's an EU edict, and (IMHO) a welcome one.

As of 2014 I believe all cars have to be fitted with operational DRL's, prior to that, they were introduced into car design for the upcoming requirements. 

They are a good idea, but provide a false sense of security for drivers, how many drive at night without headlights on filled with the comfort of DRL's yet they have NO rear illumination. It's not the cars at fault, it's the drivers. 

 

I used to frequent that stretch of the M6 on a regular basis, even had a lad put his 7.5t into a container truck, he fell asleep at the wheel. That stretch is boring. Straight, flat, hypnotising.

The white lines are mesmerising, I've been a victim to them myself, luckily snapped out of it. 

 

There is nothing sinister about that stretch apart from its monotony. 

Never heard it referee to as a bermuda triangle. 

Why isn't there any activity on the M62 between 12 and 10, where I believe the motorway was built on the air force runways(bomber crashes, dead service men)?

Or the remains of the old collieries? 

Or M60 17 - 16, named as 'death valley' site of many crashes and cutting through the lovely Philips park, also home to many stories of ghosts and supernatural activity? 

 

No, the M6 isn't a bermuda triangle, just home to incompetent and incapable drivers.

[Redefining Success]

On 18/09/2018 at 3:39 PM, L.A.T.1961 said:

This is what is happening now, a managed/smart motorway system using variable speed limits, enforcement cameras, and converting the hard shoulder to use as an extra lane.

It is only a short term fix though as the existing traffic, at peak times, will already take up the extra capacity. 

So unfortunately I would expect there to be accidents to 'investigate' for the foreseeable future.    

I can't see the advantage of a smart motorway. 

Makes my job 100% riskier. 

[L.A.T.1961]

19 hours ago, Redefining Success said:

I can't see the advantage of a smart motorway. 

Makes my job 100% riskier. 

I think having no escape lane is dangerous.There has already been one accident on the M6 between J13-J12 smart section when a broken down van was hit by a truck in the new lane one. The truck driver failed to see the van and was unable to move into lane 2 and avoid it or stop. There were 4 or 5 vehicles involved altogether.

Fortunately the van driver had climbed off the motorway and was not in his van when the truck ploughed in to the back of it. 

[Redefining Success]

1 hour ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

I think having no escape lane is dangerous.There has already been one accident on the M6 between J13-J12 smart section when a broken down van was hit by a truck in the new lane one. The truck driver failed to see the van and was unable to move into lane 2 and avoid it or stop. There were 4 or 5 vehicles involved altogether.

Fortunately the van driver had climbed off the motorway and was not in his van when the truck ploughed in to the back of it. 

Unfortunately, when an hgv hits a stationary object, there ain't going to be much left. 

Good job he got out. 

 

[Timothy]

@Mike Brooker, can you please rejoin the conversation? Or otherwise point us to a forum where you are willing to discuss what you're claiming?