UM-Bot Posted September 4, 2018 #1 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Russian investigators now believe that the hole in the ISS was created from the inside, not from the outside. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/321178/leak-on-iss-was-drilled-from-the-inside 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted September 4, 2018 #2 Share Posted September 4, 2018 To much vodka ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted September 4, 2018 #3 Share Posted September 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, seanjo said: Can't believe it was done by an ISS inhabitant. I know! What is going on up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjim36 Posted September 4, 2018 #4 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Sounds like a case for.....Space Force! 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted September 4, 2018 #5 Share Posted September 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, seanjo said: Nothing, this was done on the ground, if the conclusion made is correct. In some ways that's even more unnerving. Seems like a "build quality" issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted September 4, 2018 #6 Share Posted September 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said: In some ways that's even more unnerving. Seems like a "build quality" issue The Soyuz passed all the quality control testing (they are pressure checked). This hole was behind padding, where it couldn't be seen by visual inspection. It is believed that the hole was plugged with glue. The glue dried out and then the leak appeared. If workers are trying to hide mistakes rather than admit them then there is a managerial issue. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 4, 2018 #7 Share Posted September 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said: In some ways that's even more unnerving. Seems like a "build quality" issue Substandard construction on the Russian built module? Hard to believe because when I think Russian built I think quality. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted September 4, 2018 #8 Share Posted September 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, OverSword said: Substandard construction on the Russian built module? Hard to believe because when I think Russian built I think quality. lol powerful "Russian steel" comes to mind. In Russia, does it matter on what day of the week your car was made? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 4, 2018 #9 Share Posted September 4, 2018 56 minutes ago, seanjo said: Nothing, this was done on the ground, if the conclusion made is correct. Why would they only now have noticed the leak? I think someone used the bulkhead for a bench and over penetrated something they were drilling OR they tried hanging sexy pin-ups and forgot that it wasn't drywall. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 4, 2018 #10 Share Posted September 4, 2018 43 minutes ago, OverSword said: Substandard construction on the Russian built module? Hard to believe because when I think Russian built I think quality. Quality, no, strong...definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperdyer Posted September 4, 2018 #11 Share Posted September 4, 2018 If Waspie's info is correct, there may be trace amounts of glue left for the full investigation when the specie craft returns home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 4, 2018 #12 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, seanjo said: As was said, the perpetrator filled the hole with glue, but the glue dried out and disintegrated in orbit. Having a bit of fun... I read it afterward and saw that. Working in a program like that, there shouldn't be such pressure on the technicians that they are afraid to admit making a serious mistake but apparently, there was. I hope it's an isolated incident. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted September 4, 2018 #13 Share Posted September 4, 2018 32 minutes ago, and then said: Having a bit of fun... I read it afterward and saw that. Working in a program like that, there shouldn't be such pressure on the technicians that they are afraid to admit making a serious mistake but apparently, there was. I hope it's an isolated incident. A lot of them have passed unnoticed probably... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecks Posted September 4, 2018 #14 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Atleast its considered a mistake in worksmanship. When I began reading the article I was concerned it was sabotaged by someone on board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclopes500 Posted September 5, 2018 #15 Share Posted September 5, 2018 If it'd happened on a Salut they'd have found out who was responsible and shot him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seti42 Posted September 5, 2018 #16 Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) Those pictures are fake. The ISS is not even made out of such material. Also, no one would do that. Ever. Also, look up the source. "chrisB - NSF" Not at NASA.gov. At nasaspaceflight.com. Edited September 5, 2018 by Seti42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzo Posted September 5, 2018 #17 Share Posted September 5, 2018 That totally looks like someone who tried to drill from the inside. You can see where the bit did not bite into the metal and it slid. That is insane. So that means that someone from inside tried to sabotage the station. Dont they have cams inside in every direction on 24/7 to monitor the common areas? If not this is obviously the time to have one. Looks like some incredibly mentally ill person.... NOT THE RIGHT STUFF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclopes500 Posted September 5, 2018 #18 Share Posted September 5, 2018 The first thing that came into my mind when I read about the patching method was Apollo 13 and the incompatibility problem they had with the CO2 scrubbing cartridges from the command module and the moon lander. They had to use what they had to hand to make a spare plug fit in a round hole;a problem the average toddler faces with certain types of toys. But the apollo incident occurred in the 1970's.That hole appeared in 2018.48 years later. The fact that the space station had no proper purpose designed instant energency patches to use horrified me. To me fixing the hole should have been quick and simple. Press on and then cover with a fast acting strong glue that sets in seconds even in a vaccum. I say this. Micrometeors can arrive in groups and such a repair kit is definitely needed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted September 5, 2018 #19 Share Posted September 5, 2018 20 hours ago, Waspie_Dwarf said: The Soyuz passed all the quality control testing (they are pressure checked). This hole was behind padding, where it couldn't be seen by visual inspection. It is believed that the hole was plugged with glue. The glue dried out and then the leak appeared. If workers are trying to hide mistakes rather than admit them then there is a managerial issue. Thanks for your explanation. But I’m very amateur with this. Was the capsule recently launched, and only when it docked and was pressurised, the decompression was detected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted September 5, 2018 #20 Share Posted September 5, 2018 And again, Germany is playing a major role in spaceflight: Quote When the two-millimetre slash was detected, European Space Agency astronaut Alexander Gerst reportedly put his finger over the hole to try to plug the leak. The Guardian BTW: Alexander Gertst`s nickname here in Germany is: Astro-Alex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibeliever Posted September 5, 2018 #21 Share Posted September 5, 2018 15 hours ago, Seti42 said: Those pictures are fake. The ISS is not even made out of such material. Also, no one would do that. Ever. Also, look up the source. "chrisB - NSF" Not at NASA.gov. At nasaspaceflight.com. Except it's not on the ISS it's on the Soyuz. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted September 5, 2018 #22 Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) I winder if this hole would negatively effect capsule reentry? IF teh answer is yes they need to send another one up and send this one back to earth. Edited September 5, 2018 by Merc14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted September 5, 2018 #23 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Timothy said: Thanks for your explanation. But I’m very amateur with this. Was the capsule recently launched, and only when it docked and was pressurised, the decompression was detected? Soyuz MS-09 was launched on 06JUN and as all the other Soyuz units, it was pressurized all the time. I think you are in the opinion that the spacecrafts are not pressured during their flight to the ISS because the astronauts wear space suits but they do so because of emergence protocols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted September 5, 2018 #24 Share Posted September 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Merc14 said: I winder if this hole would negatively effect capsule reentry? IF teh answer is yes they need to send another one up and send this one back to earth. The crew capsule is ok, it is the orbital module which got drilled but no problem these sections never return to Earth. The only problem I see here is that the toilet is located in the orbital module, so maybe it cannot be used on the flight back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibeliever Posted September 5, 2018 #25 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, toast said: The crew capsule is ok, it is the orbital module which got drilled but no problem these sections never return to Earth. The only problem I see here is that the toilet is located in the orbital module, so maybe it cannot be used on the flight back. It's been repaired. There is no indication that it will impact the mission any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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