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National Solar Observatory: What's Going On?

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Noteverythingisaconspiracy
15 minutes ago, aztek said:

and he is absolutely correct,

 

i have 30 cents in my pocket, in two coins, one of them is not a quarter, what are those coins?

Please enlighten me on the answer and how it is relevant ?

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Gromdor
58 minutes ago, aztek said:

and he is absolutely correct,

 

i have 30 cents in my pocket, in two coins, one of them is not a quarter, what are those coins?

A nickle and a quarter. Because the other one is the quarter.

From what I have been reading, he was using the center's network to distribute the porn by hooking it up at night in various places and after the FBI grabbed the laptop to track the culprit down he started hinting threats when it came up missing.

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aztek
Just now, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

Please enlighten me on the answer and how it is relevant ?

the answer is a nickel and a quarter, one of them is not a quarter but another one is.

and it is relevant to what you said, not everything is a conspiracy, some things are not conspiracy, but others are.  

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Noteverythingisaconspiracy
2 minutes ago, aztek said:

the answer is a nickel and a quarter, one of them is not a quarter but another one is.

and it is relevant to what you said, not everything is a conspiracy, some things are not conspiracy, but others are.  

I never said there are no conspiracies. It's just that some people are very quick to see conspiracies where non exist.

Nice riddle.:tu: I thougt there might be some little used coin most people didn't know about, hence why I asked you to explain it. Of course the real answer was much simpler. This is actually kind of on topic, in that often the truth is lot simpler than people make it out to be.

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FensterZero
3 hours ago, Seti42 said:

1) A "whole town" was not evacuated. That's straight up fake news. 

2) I'm pretty sure no other observatories were locked down and closed. This hasn't been reported by any reliable news agencies. The whole "4 other observatories in 4 countries closed down" reeks of B.S. It might technically be true, but a total coincidence as well. There are tens of thousands of observatories all over the globe. Sometimes, they close for various reasons.

3) I don't get the post office thing, but then again...That could be linked to the ch*** po** thing too. Maybe this janitor was sending/receiving his evil filth via snail mail too. Or maybe he tried to mail evidence away before the FBI seized it. Boxing up your evidence and mailing it to a random far away address is a great way to make it disappear, at least temporarily. As is express mailing it to a co-conspirator with instructions to destroy it.

The FBI takes ch*** po** VERY seriously. As they should. They also take threats very seriously. The janitor was saying vague and threatening things to other employees. The response is totally in line with investigating what has come out via actual news as the subject of the investigation. 

Personally, I believe the local news reports. But, again...Once the conspiracy fires get burning, nothing puts them out. Have fun, but don't take it too seriously...

 

Well stated.  I just seriously doubt the use of aviation assets and shutting out the local sheriff for C.P. and workplace violence threats.  I don't know what actually happened but I certainly feel this is very much B.S.

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Stiff
3 hours ago, Seti42 said:

Boxing up your evidence and mailing it to a random far away address is a great way to make it disappear, at least temporarily.

He should have used DHL. That's a good way to get rid of a body too - post it off with them and it'll never be seen again.

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aztek

actually destroying the evidence, or drowning\burning it is a lot better way to get rid of it permanently, a lot better than boxing and mailing. and if the evidence are emails, just delete them, Hilary showed how

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Sir Wearer of Hats
4 hours ago, aztek said:

still not buying it.   5 laptops, few dozens of thumb drives and dvds were found at his home, not in the center.

like i said if it really was just that we need to reevaluate our law enforcement, and its priority.  what is next city wide lock down cuz someone fled car accident scene?

It does make sense that if he was distributing this filth from home, he might have been even doing it at work. Close the place down and give the investigators unfettered access to everything makes sense, it’d also mean everyone working there got the once over just to make sure they weren’t sick in the head as well.

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Gromdor
22 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

It does make sense that if he was distributing this filth from home, he might have been even doing it at work. Close the place down and give the investigators unfettered access to everything makes sense, it’d also mean everyone working there got the once over just to make sure they weren’t sick in the head as well.

From what I have been reading, he was the night janitor.  He would use the office network at night by setting up his laptop there in different offices to "spread his filth".  The guy who manages the observatory found the lap top and called the FBI.  They staked out the place and narrowed it to him.  They also took the lap top which made the janitor fret.  He started complaining about the place being unsecure and how it could be attacked.  The FBI then did the full shutdown.

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aztek
Just now, Gromdor said:

From what I have been reading, he was the night janitor.  He would use the office network at night by setting up his laptop there in different offices to "spread his filth".  The guy who manages the observatory found the lap top and called the FBI.  They staked out the place and narrowed it to him.  They also took the lap top which made the janitor fret.  He started complaining about the place being unsecure and how it could be attacked.  The FBI then did the full shutdown.

a janitor did that? we have some it guys having problem doing simpler things. not to mention, their network is no doubt fire walled, and you need to have a log in to access it, a night janitor would not have that.  still not buying it

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Gromdor
10 minutes ago, aztek said:

a janitor did that? we have some it guys having problem doing simpler things. not to mention, their network is no doubt fire walled, and you need to have a log in to access it, a night janitor would not have that.  still not buying it

I'm thinking the janitor part was a choice on his part to further his crimes.  He hasn't been charged yet, so they aren't releasing his name.  But they did say he was under contract which means he could be doing it part-time.  I can see him defeating the firewall pretty easy.  Offices often leave memos and notes unattended and to be blunt, all you have to do is ask sometimes.  In construction all I have to do is say I need to access some email to download prints or send in some timesheets and the customer often just grants me access to their wi-fi.

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aztek
Just now, Gromdor said:

I'm thinking the janitor part was a choice on his part to further his crimes.  He hasn't been charged yet, so they aren't releasing his name.  But they did say he was under contract which means he could be doing it part-time.  I can see him defeating the firewall pretty easy.  Offices often leave memos and notes unattended and to be blunt, all you have to do is ask sometimes.  In construction all I have to do is say I need to access some email to download prints or send in some timesheets and the customer often just grants me access to their wi-fi.

that is not the same as network access,  2 very different things. you also have to have a profile created by admin. to be able to log in, to THEIR network. you must be logged in to even go on internet, not to mention work networks have restrictions, i can't even go to gun broker from my work network, let alone porn.

did observatory has public internet access? actually never mind, those have lots of restrictions, he would not be able to go to porno sites on those.

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Gromdor
7 minutes ago, aztek said:

that is not the same as network access,  2 very different things. you also have to have a profile created by admin. to be able to log in, to THEIR network. you must be logged in to even go on internet, not to mention work networks have restrictions, i can't even go to gun broker from my work network, let alone porn.

did observatory has public internet access? actually never mind, those have lots of restrictions, he would not be able to go to porno sites on those.

Eh, maybe he just used offices that were still logged on.  Who knows.  The guy could be an IT expert for all we know at this stage.  It's not like it's going to disappear after all the attention shined on it this last week. It fits the criteria of a reasonable explanation at this point to me.  It's not like there have been any credible alternative theories short of x-files stuff.

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aztek
Just now, Gromdor said:

Eh, maybe he just used offices that were still logged on.  Who knows.  The guy could be an IT expert for all we know at this stage.  It's not like it's going to disappear after all the attention shined on it this last week. It fits the criteria of a reasonable explanation at this point to me.  It's not like there have been any credible alternative theories short of x-files stuff.

or maybe it was not him at all.  it is not like current theory sounds any more credible, devil is in details.  i do not believe it has anything to do with aliens, but i do not buy janitor story either,

btw all half decent networks lock your comp after 5-10 min of none use, 

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Timothy

@aztek, pretty much everything you’ve posted in this thread has been pure paranoid conjecture or false claims.

Why do you want it so badly to be something more than what it seems to be?

IMHO, what’s being reported currently seems legitimate. 

Read these if you can be bothered, and let me know what you think:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-mexico-observatory/new-mexico-observatory-closure-stemmed-from-fbi-child-porn-probe-documents-idUSKCN1M001P

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/20/new-mexico-solar-observatory-a-child-pornography-investigation-not-aliens-triggered-the-mysterious-closure-of-the-facility/

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aztek
Just now, Timothy said:

@aztek, pretty much everything you’ve posted in this thread has been pure paranoid conjecture or false claims.

 

why? because i do not buy this b.s.? lamo.

pretty much everything you posted on pretty much anything here  i find delusional and naive, 

 

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Timothy
11 minutes ago, aztek said:

why? because i do not buy this b.s.? lamo.

pretty much everything you posted on pretty much anything here  i find delusional and naive, 

:lol: Oh no.

I hereby retract all claims ever made here and will now be shutting my account down forever.  You’ve called me out.

It’s been fun guys.

(Was your post more juicy before you edited it?)

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Timothy

@aztek, sorry I’m back.

Any chance you can answer my question from post #115 (the one with the links, just up there :tsu:). What do you think about those articles?

(They’re just a quick, light read, which seem to wrap everything up in a neat little package)

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