Eldorado Posted October 13, 2018 #1 Share Posted October 13, 2018 At long last, researchers have discovered something that liberals and conservatives have in common — neither wants to hear opposing viewpoints, not even if a cash incentive is involved. This disheartening phenomenon is known in psychology circles as selective exposure, which leads us to avoid information that contradicts strongly held pre-existing viewpoints. Selective exposure also causes people to seek information that reinforces said opinions, like hanging out with like-minded people or consuming news media that traditionally lean in the same direction. University of Illinois and University of Winnipeg researchers released the findings via a paper published in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology. Across five studies, they presented both conservatives and liberals with statements about hot-button topics like climate change, guns, abortion, elections and same-sex marriage. A stunning two-thirds of the participants outright rejected the opportunity to receive money simply for reading political statements that didn't jibe with their own opinions. (The amount was $10.) Full short article: https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/even-cold-hard-cash-isnt-enough-incentive-listen-opposing-views.htm The Paper: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103116304024 Sad, is it not? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted October 13, 2018 #2 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Not.. not sad at all. Just human nature 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted October 13, 2018 Author #3 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 minute ago, RoofGardener said: Not.. not sad at all. Just human nature Wilful ignorance is sad, I reckon. Human nature or not. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 13, 2018 #4 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Switch the word politics with religion and you get the same results. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted October 13, 2018 #5 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: Switch the word politics with religion and you get the same results. Yeah.. right.. but then.. switch the word "politics" with the phrase "football support" and you get the same results. It's just part of tribalism, which is an essential feature of human nature. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 13, 2018 #6 Share Posted October 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, RoofGardener said: Yeah.. right.. but then.. switch the word "politics" with the phrase "football support" and you get the same results. It's just part of tribalism, which is an essential feature of human nature. Very much true. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted October 13, 2018 #7 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Maybe I'm different than most, 'cause I'm not settled on anything. That seems to confuse people. Like @Dejarma who wont stop confronting me with my favorite TOE*, although I'm not obliged to it. For me science isn't a "this or that" thing. It's an ongoing process that holds many possible conclusions. Just because you favor one conclusion, doesn't mean you dislike or reject the others. In politics I also see pros and cons on both wings. In short you could say that I am open to all options always, except maybe a rare few* that I don't find tangible in any sense. * TOE = Theory of Everything (or "model of reality") * rare few: Like "flat earth" or the biblical/quran god 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted October 13, 2018 #8 Share Posted October 13, 2018 44 minutes ago, sci-nerd said: In short you could say that I am open to all options Who isn't in here? You talk & argue your points regarding your computer simulation theory as if you believe it to be fact! --And when you're confronted you say you don't believe by putting forward illogical statements like: Quote No, it's not a belief. It's my favorite model of reality if you mean this is your kinda fantasy model of reality then sure, OK why not... But it doesn't feel like that IMO (& to most, i'd suggest) going by your rebuttals.... That's how you come across to me- that's all I'm saying.. Cheers. Peace. dej. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted October 13, 2018 #9 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Dejarma said: You talk & argue your points regarding your computer simulation theory as if you believe it to be fact! No, I defend the parts of it that are defensible, not because I believe them to be facts, but because they are possible. Peace 2U2 Edited October 13, 2018 by sci-nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightScreams Posted October 13, 2018 #10 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) Which is why we need to stop identifying in groups and instead just identify as individuals. You don't have to side with anyone else. Same for races, we would be better off in the long run to just identify as humans instead of race and integrate and open up all culture so everyone can pool their preferences from them without being judged or having to be a part of that specific race with accusations of this appropriation BS. Edited October 13, 2018 by NightScreams 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted October 13, 2018 #11 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Loyalty is an overrated concept, because it is not a virtue but an indication of stubbornness and blind faith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted October 13, 2018 #12 Share Posted October 13, 2018 38 minutes ago, sci-nerd said: Loyalty is an overrated concept, because it is not a virtue but an indication of stubbornness and blind faith. you're loyal to your theory of a computer-generated reality... or are you not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted October 13, 2018 #13 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Dejarma said: you're loyal to your theory of a computer-generated reality... or are you not? No, but it is defensible because it is very probable to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted October 14, 2018 #14 Share Posted October 14, 2018 THe question is and remains, is truth more important or crucial than trust ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted October 14, 2018 #15 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, sci-nerd said: No, but it is defensible because it is very probable to be true. to you it's defensible but to me it's possible, yes, but highly unlikely.... having said that- who really knows? I don't, that's for sure. IMO life is very simple= you're unborn for x amount of trillions of years/ you're born/ you live whatever life you live & become unborn again= for me that's reality......nothing has been proved otherwise- & why is this? -- because life is simple Edited October 14, 2018 by Dejarma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White-Coyote Posted October 14, 2018 #16 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 hours ago, sci-nerd said: Loyalty is an overrated concept, because it is not a virtue but an indication of stubbornness and blind faith. A person with no loyalty is a person with no honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 14, 2018 #17 Share Posted October 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, White-Coyote said: A person with no loyalty is a person with no honor. Those without honor have nothing to lose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmoonlady Posted October 14, 2018 #18 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Lol it's weird I hear ooh tribalism. Well yes that has been the standard model for human existence for thousands of years. It's intrinsically where we feel safest (whether its good for us or not). People have fear of being alone, they want to belong to something. Political parties, fraternities, sororities, clubs, cliques, religions, it's all replacement for our tribal origins. Then you couldn't just decide (nor would you) to go join some other tribe because more than likely they would kill you. Survival has altered us over a millennia to be joiners. And what happens if you can't successfully navigate being part of a group? (Loneliness, homelessness, easily picked off by predators). We're going thru something right now obviously, in the world where that ancient tribalism is now taking the form of extremism and polarization. It's what got us to the brink during the Cold War, World wars, civil War. Fear and wanting to belong to something. Not much changes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podo Posted October 16, 2018 #19 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/13/2018 at 7:40 PM, White-Coyote said: A person with no loyalty is a person with no honor. Honour is just a fancy word used to elicit behaviour in others. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coil Posted October 17, 2018 #20 Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 14.10.2018 at 3:14 AM, third_eye said: THe question is and remains, is truth more important or crucial than trust ~ The mind cannot perceive the truth because it has a supramental source, therefore the person accepts fragments of thoughts and forms a point of view for himself in which he believes. The mind is not an instrument of knowledge but only an organizer of knowledge.Even if a person does not have knowledge, he still has some point of view, even the wrong one, because the mind does not like ignorance.(And you can’t believe politicians at all) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White-Coyote Posted October 18, 2018 #21 Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 6:44 PM, Podo said: Honour is just a fancy word used to elicit behaviour in others. The political bigot in me thinks you must be a Democrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted October 18, 2018 #22 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I am not politically inclined, in a certain sense I see it the same as organized religion, law or justice. Most of it is an illusion but does serve a purpose in creating a form of comfort and maintaining a social balance of sorts. Politicians will do what they will ďo whether the silent majority approve or not so I don't bother nor do I care. jmccr8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podo Posted October 18, 2018 #23 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, White-Coyote said: The political bigot in me thinks you must be a Democrat. I'm not a democrat, I'm Canadian. To me, both your country's political parties are groups of corrupt right-wing idiots. Edited October 18, 2018 by Podo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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