Piney Posted October 15, 2018 Author #101 Share Posted October 15, 2018 41 minutes ago, Swede said: The video where he visits White's class does, as White puts it, speak for itself. Only about 3 minutes long. Hilarious in its utter lack of substance. Friggin Ed Grondine made a comment? Gods! That clown was chasing me around several sites.... Swede, do you know that idiot? In his comment he's accusing Ales Hrdlicka of being a white supremacist and hiding remains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 15, 2018 #102 Share Posted October 15, 2018 45 minutes ago, Piney said: Perhaps you can help me with a stabbing pain right between my eyes.. Do you have one, or do you want one? Harte 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 15, 2018 Author #103 Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Harte said: Do you have one, or do you want one? Harte I just, I....I...I don't.....I....don't... understand the logic of defending liars after they are proven false. .........and...and...claiming your open minded? I can't systemize or wrap my head around Georgie's logic.........non-logic??..... .......it gives me brainlock...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 15, 2018 #104 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Again, what sort of relief do you require? It's a quandary. Reminds me of this joke: Harte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 15, 2018 Author #105 Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Harte said: Again, what sort of relief do you require? The grandmonkey reads...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted October 15, 2018 #106 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 hours ago, papageorge1 said: What you are saying may be right. I am not an expert on that subject. That is why I wanted to hear the final thoughts of someone I respect like Jim Vieira. Quality of sources mean so much in controversial fields. Or you could just look at the JEWISH sources I linked. I don't think Vieira is Jewish and I don't think he knows much about Jewish artifacts. The Jews themselves have stated many times that the "10 Commandments" is not a "thing" for them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted October 15, 2018 #107 Share Posted October 15, 2018 34 minutes ago, Piney said: Friggin Ed Grondine made a comment? Gods! That clown was chasing me around several sites.... Swede, do you know that idiot? In his comment he's accusing Ales Hrdlicka of being a white supremacist and hiding remains! Yes, have dealt with Grondine. A retired journalist with no relevant credentials. He has spent years attempting to support his earlier "book". Claims to have been the originator of the YD Impact Hypothesis. Also claims Native ancestry (limited at best). He was rather recently banned from likely the most inconsequential archaeological website in existence. Speaks volumes. . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 15, 2018 Author #108 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Swede said: Yes, have dealt with Grondine. A retired journalist with no relevant credentials. He has spent years attempting to support his earlier "book". Claims to have been the originator of the YD Impact Hypothesis. Also claims Native ancestry (limited at best). He was rather recently banned from likely the most inconsequential archaeological website in existence. Speaks volumes. His Adena-"Andraste" theory drove me nuts. His claims to "Shawnee" are B.S. and somehow managed to find us at 3 Carolina Bay dig sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted October 16, 2018 #109 Share Posted October 16, 2018 5 hours ago, danydandan said: However can I ask if you actually believe everything he says? What if anything fo you disagree with him on? He talks about evidence and consideration of the evidence. That's what I am interested in also. I hope you don't think I think he is infallible or anything but rather just someone who is more passionate than most of us on these subjects, does a lot of evidence seeking and analysis. I respect someone like that. I do also believe there is a tendency by mainstream academia to unfairly dismiss these so-called maverick types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted October 16, 2018 #110 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: I know arrant flapdoodle and codswollop when I see it. We all have to judge things for ourselves. I don't like arrant flapdoodle and codswollop either. We have that in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted October 16, 2018 #111 Share Posted October 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: We all have to judge things for ourselves. I don't like arrant flapdoodle and codswollop either. We have that in common. No wonder you can’t cite evidence. You don’t know what it is, if you think can say that here and we’d take you seriously. —Jaylemurph 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted October 16, 2018 #112 Share Posted October 16, 2018 49 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: He talks about evidence and consideration of the evidence. That's what I am interested in also. I hope you don't think I think he is infallible or anything but rather just someone who is more passionate than most of us on these subjects, does a lot of evidence seeking and analysis. I respect someone like that. I do also believe there is a tendency by mainstream academia to unfairly dismiss these so-called maverick types. Just because he talks about evidence doesn’t mean it’s ... well evidence-y evidence. every telemarketeer ever talks about evidence and proof and I would trust one of them if they said the Sky was blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted October 16, 2018 #113 Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Piney said: Friggin Ed Grondine made a comment? Gods! That clown was chasing me around several sites.... Swede, do you know that idiot? In his comment he's accusing Ales Hrdlicka of being a white supremacist and hiding remains! Hrdlcka would be considered more a misogynist than White supremacist today. He fervently opposed silly fads starting to occur in Academia at the time. Things such as female scientist's, anthropologists, archaeologists, well really a woman in a job title ending with "ist" except for "typist". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 16, 2018 Author #114 Share Posted October 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Jarocal said: Hrdlcka would be considered more a misogynist than White supremacist today. He fervently opposed silly fads starting to occur in Academia at the time. Things such as female scientist's, anthropologists, archaeologists, well really a woman in a job title ending with "ist" except for "typist". He was just plain anal-retentive. Charles Conad Abbott, his "mortal enemy" was a Quaker in my Quarter and one of my "heros". Abbott used poetry to debate and mock him and reading their back and forth responses gave me a good laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted October 16, 2018 #115 Share Posted October 16, 2018 21 hours ago, Piney said: His Adena-"Andraste" theory drove me nuts. His claims to "Shawnee" are B.S. and somehow managed to find us at 3 Carolina Bay dig sites. And rightly so. As Brad Lepper has recently been a component of the conversation, an aside: Grondine is one of Lepper's numerous headaches. Grondine has, on a number of occasions, publicly (in print) criticized Lepper and questioned his qualifications (!). The reason: Lepper would not organize and conduct specific niche research projects that Grondine had suggested/requested/demanded. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 16, 2018 Author #116 Share Posted October 16, 2018 32 minutes ago, Swede said: And rightly so. As Brad Lepper has recently been a component of the conversation, an aside: Grondine is one of Lepper's numerous headaches. Grondine has, on a number of occasions, publicly (in print) criticized Lepper and questioned his qualifications (!). The reason: Lepper would not organize and conduct specific niche research projects that Grondine had suggested/requested/demanded. I know all about that. I also know about the numerous fake Shawnees out there. I went back and counted... Ohio has 18 fake Shawnee "tribes" That drive poor Brad bat ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted October 17, 2018 #117 Share Posted October 17, 2018 23 hours ago, Piney said: I know all about that. I also know about the numerous fake Shawnees out there. I went back and counted... Ohio has 18 fake Shawnee "tribes" That drive poor Brad bat ****. Amazing. One can imagine that the Oklahoma contingent is equally delighted. . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 17, 2018 #118 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I was born in Oklahoma. Guess I need a DNA test. Maybe run for Prez. Harte 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 17, 2018 #119 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Harte said: I was born in Oklahoma. Guess I need a DNA test. Maybe run for Prez. Harte Just be the opposite of Trump and your a shoe in. That's how you guys vote.... Isn't it? Trump - Out spoken and unhinged. Obama - Softly Spoken and stable. Bush - Stupid. Clinton - Smart. By that trend if your smart and soft spoken your in. Regardless of your policies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 17, 2018 Author #120 Share Posted October 17, 2018 29 minutes ago, Swede said: Amazing. One can imagine that the Oklahoma contingent is equally delighted. . Keely Squirrel Denning is a busy woman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 17, 2018 Author #121 Share Posted October 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, danydandan said: By that trend if your smart and soft spoken your in. Regardless of your policies! You forgot Ford- Mostly Harmless Carter- Actually honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 17, 2018 #122 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Piney said: You forgot Ford- Mostly Harmless Carter- Actually honest I was going by Presidens I can remember. #borninthe80s. Such an out dated system, imagine Jefferson came back to life. He'd be like "you guys didn't change anything!.......... Anything I wrote that constitution hundreds of years ago." He'd think people are nuts. Like current President basically got elected by lying and doubling down. World's bloody crazy. Edited October 17, 2018 by danydandan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 17, 2018 #123 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, danydandan said: I was going by Presidens I can remember. #borninthe80s. Such an out dated system, imagine Jefferson came back to life. He'd be like "you guys didn't change anything!.......... Anything I wrote that constitution hundreds of years ago." He'd think people are nuts. He'd think we were quite civilized in our Presidential campaigns, that's for sure. The things said about him (and by him) in those days were FAR worse than anything you see today. But it couldn't happen. If Jefferson came back to life today the left would lynch him for owning slaves AND writing the Constitution. Harte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 17, 2018 Author #124 Share Posted October 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, danydandan said: Like current President basically got elected by lying and doubling down. World's bloody crazy. He's a necessary evil. Both sides were out of control. Now I want to see them beat the hell out of each other and laugh my ass off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 17, 2018 #125 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Piney said: He's a necessary evil. Both sides were out of control. Now I want to see them beat the hell out of each other and laugh my ass off. I'm not too privy on US politics. Why isn't there other parties or independents? 3 minutes ago, Harte said: He'd think we were quite civilized in our Presidential campaigns, that's for sure. The things said about him (and by him) in those days were FAR worse than anything you see today. But it couldn't happen. If Jefferson came back to life today the left would lynch him for owning slaves AND writing the Constitution. Harte Oh I don't really know much about Jefferson, did he actually draft the entire constitution and bills of rights? My point was holding on to a government template in today's climate that was designed hundreds of years ago is strange. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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