Piney Posted October 15, 2018 #1 Share Posted October 15, 2018 One "fact" I disagree with in this article is there no gap between the Adena and Fort Ancient Culture. It went "Adena-Hopewell Sphere- Fort Ancient- Shawnee/ illini/ Kikapu" I think it was a creation of the Fort Ancient culture around 1066 as a response to Halley's Comet. https://www.cleveland.com/expo/life-and-culture/erry-2018/10/71b738640b7079/ohios-serpent-mound-an-archaeo.html 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Caspian Hare Posted October 15, 2018 #2 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I was just about to post that exact story in the archaeology section but I figured you'd be all over it... and was right. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 15, 2018 Author #3 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, The Caspian Hare said: I was just about to post that exact story in the archaeology section but I figured you'd be all over it... and was right. Generally I'm multi-tasking and leave it to you and Still Waters but we need some NA woosayers in this section and I found some bait. Also I am soooo sick of friggin Egypt....... Edited October 15, 2018 by Piney 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 15, 2018 #4 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Piney said: Generally I'm multi-tasking and leave it to you and Still Waters but we need some NA woosayers in this section and I found some bait. Also I am soooo sick of friggin Egypt....... Did the Egyptians not do this? 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 15, 2018 Author #5 Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, danydandan said: Did the Egyptians not do this? Screw you! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 15, 2018 #6 Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Piney said: Screw you! Sorry, but it was like you dangled a carrot. I couldn't resist. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 15, 2018 Author #7 Share Posted October 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, danydandan said: Sorry, but it was like you dangled a carrot. I couldn't resist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 15, 2018 #8 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Piney said: One "fact" I disagree with in this article is there no gap between the Adena and Fort Ancient Culture. It went "Adena-Hopewell Sphere- Fort Ancient- Shawnee/ illini/ Kikapu" I think it was a creation of the Fort Ancient culture around 1066 as a response to Halley's Comet. https://www.cleveland.com/expo/life-and-culture/erry-2018/10/71b738640b7079/ohios-serpent-mound-an-archaeo.html That's an awesome site. I mean the Archeological site not the website. Have they carried out X-ray analysis of the mount? It says it was built facing the sun at summer solstice, when it's setting. I find that off, usually you hear of ancient cultural sites built to face the rising sun. Is there cultural significance to the setting sun? And serpents? Other stuff I've read indicates that it was the Adena who probably built it, based upon carbon dating done in 2014 that suggests it was initially built in and around 300bce. And if I remember correctly, the Adena did alot of cosmological earthworks. Edited October 15, 2018 by danydandan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 15, 2018 Author #9 Share Posted October 15, 2018 47 minutes ago, danydandan said: Other stuff I've read indicates that it was the Adena who probably built it, based upon carbon dating done in 2014 that suggests it was initially built in and around 300bce. Those carbon dates come from the remains from a Adena village it was built on top of that predated the site 49 minutes ago, danydandan said: Is there cultural significance to the setting sun? And serpents? The Horned Serpent was the personification of a river and the guardian and owner of all copper. The Coastal Agonquians were the "Dawnland People" with the Mi' kmaq being "The Greeters of the Sun" ( Waabanaakii in the Northeast Waabanagii in the Southeast) my theory is the Central Algonquians were the "People of the Setting Sun" and I think it was built to invoke the Horned Serpent to carry Halley's Comet West away from the Naapii (The Algonquian Peoples) 55 minutes ago, danydandan said: And if I remember correctly, the Adena did alot of cosmological earthworks. The Hopewell Horizon did. The Hopewell was actually made up of Algonquian, Siouian, Muskogian and Iroquian Tribes. It was more of a "Sphere of Influence". 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted October 15, 2018 #10 Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 hours ago, danydandan said: Did the Egyptians not do this? It were the Hebrews obviously. While they were lost 40 years in rhe desert they got REALLY REALLY lost and ended up in North America. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted October 16, 2018 #11 Share Posted October 16, 2018 11 hours ago, Piney said: ... Also I am soooo sick of friggin Egypt....... Rube! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted October 16, 2018 #12 Share Posted October 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said: Rube! The only reason to study the Egyptian culture is to observe the mistakes they made causing the Desertification of the Savannah later renamed the "Sahara". Although it probably would still be better to study the methodologies of indigenous populations in the Americas who so well managed their habitat that European invaders thought they had found a pristine land. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted October 16, 2018 #13 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I personally find hardly believable that the serpent features are actually a thousand years older. They appear to be barely raised off the ground and a type of landscape that won't even last 20 years due to landslides and Earth modifications Etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 16, 2018 Author #14 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 hours ago, kmt_sesh said: Rube! LMAO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 16, 2018 #15 Share Posted October 16, 2018 17 hours ago, danydandan said: Did the Egyptians not do this? The Serpent Mound was built out of the dirt from when the Egyptians dug out the Grand Canyon. Harte 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 16, 2018 #16 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, Harte said: The Serpent Mound was built out of the dirt from when the Egyptians dug out the Grand Canyon. Harte Ohhhujjuuhhhhhh, I thought God did the Grand Canyon now your saying it was them Egyptians. Ken Ham will not be happy to hear this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 16, 2018 #17 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Well, the canyon was finished off by Paul Bunyan, as everyone knows. He was dragging his axe behind him and it got caught in the trench left by the Egyptians. Harte 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 16, 2018 #18 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Harte said: Well, the canyon was finished off by Paul Bunyan, as everyone knows. He was dragging his axe behind him and it got caught in the trench left by the Egyptians. Harte That makes more sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 16, 2018 Author #19 Share Posted October 16, 2018 6 hours ago, qxcontinuum said: I personally find hardly believable that the serpent features are actually a thousand years older. They appear to be barely raised off the ground and a type of landscape that won't even last 20 years due to landslides and Earth modifications Etc It was plowed a couple of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 16, 2018 #20 Share Posted October 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, Piney said: It was plowed a couple of times. Was it rebuilt as a result of the farming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coil Posted October 16, 2018 #21 Share Posted October 16, 2018 20 hours ago, danydandan said: Did the Egyptians not do this? You are not far from the truth, apparently there are common roots among Egypt and the Indians and the link here should be something intermediate, the intermediate continent of Atlantis from which knowledge went to Egypt and passed on to American Indians only the latter could not restore civilization therefore they depicted a snake on the ground and stone.The snake holds an egg in its mouth and it is a very ancient cosmological symbol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 16, 2018 #22 Share Posted October 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Coil said: You are not far from the truth, apparently there are common roots among Egypt and the Indians and the link here should be something intermediate, the intermediate continent of Atlantis from which knowledge went to Egypt and passed on to American Indians only the latter could not restore civilization therefore they depicted a snake on the ground and stone.The snake holds an egg in its mouth and it is a very ancient cosmological symbol. Your nuts man. Atlantis was never, and isn't real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 16, 2018 Author #23 Share Posted October 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, Coil said: apparently there are common roots among Egypt and the Indians Not even a little bit. We have nothing in common in DNA, culture, language or anything else...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 16, 2018 #24 Share Posted October 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, Piney said: Not even a little bit. We have nothing in common in DNA, culture, language or anything else...... Your both humanses. Unless........... Aliens! OMG. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coil Posted October 16, 2018 #25 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I want to know from you where the Indians took this symbol?Just do not say that the Indians were hunting and here in the head of one of them there was a desire to portray a snake ..Waiting for your reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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