+susieice Posted October 24, 2018 #126 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Setton said: Then you have no comparison. We have posters here actively and unrepentantly supporting this bomber because the targets are on 'the other side'. You want to bring antifa into this, show me the same. I posted enough. Far enough to show what they are. You are the one acting wronged when someone does it to your side. Read my post above. It's alright for one but not for the other. Life doesn't work that way. Doesn't make it right, but that's how it is. Doesn't affect you anyway. Just more rhetoric. Edited October 24, 2018 by susieice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted October 24, 2018 #127 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, aztek said: ground is the pipe, you only need 1 wire, same way every car is wired You might be able to ground to the pipe. The clock itself doesn't seem to have a timer function (it's just a simple clock,) and I can't see another power source behind the clock but it could be the angle. The less complicated the device, the more likely it is to work, generally speaking. Still hard to believe 0 of 5 detonated. I wonder how they set the "timers" taking so many variables in to account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted October 24, 2018 #128 Share Posted October 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, aztek said: ground is the pipe, you only need 1 wire, same way every car is wired, but i still think it's fake Here is a better view of the back Looks like the clock is strapped directly to the pipe with a single wire taped on each side. I can't see any additional power sources. Could you detonate that with a watch battery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted October 24, 2018 #129 Share Posted October 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, Setton said: Exactly like that. On both sides. And for everyone here who helps spread it. No, not on both sides. Talking about violence is vastly different from instigating it. Only Progs regularly encourage violence. There is no comparison. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted October 24, 2018 #130 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, RavenHawk said: No, not on both sides. Talking about violence is vastly different from instigating it. Only Progs regularly encourage violence. There is no comparison. They just want to cry and crap their pants if they get a response. And we aren't even sure what all this is. Talk about feeling you have an entitled life. Bully but don't fight back to me. None of this has a place in society, but, here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted October 24, 2018 Author #131 Share Posted October 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, susieice said: That's exactly right Setton. We posted Waters and her comments to the left. Don't act surprised if someone else employs those methods. Thankfully, no one was harmed this time. This whole thing is more liable to blow sooner or later than not. Which. Doesn’t. Make. It. Right. I know 4 year olds who can get this through their heads. Stop thinking 'left and right' and just ask: does this have any place in a democratic society? If no, condemn it. If yes, take a serious look at yourself - you're everything your denouncing. 7 minutes ago, susieice said: I posted enough. Far enough to show what they are. I didn't ask you to show what they are. I asked you to show people here support them. They don't. Quote You are the one acting wronged when someone does it to your side. Read my post above. It's alright for one but not for the other. Life doesn't work that way. Doesn't make it right, but that's how it is. Doesn't affect you anyway. Just more rhetoric. Again, get 'left and right' out of your head. I haven't mentioned sides. At all. I don't even have a 'side' in left and right - I'm centrist. And I've NEVER said politcal violence is right for any side. But, it's very interesting that, when I mentioned rhetoric (in both sides), only some posters felt the need to play victim immediately. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted October 24, 2018 #132 Share Posted October 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, aztek said: ground is the pipe, you only need 1 wire, same way every car is wired, but i still think it's fake It’s not clear from the photos and I haven’t heard any further descriptions yet, but is it a metallic pipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted October 24, 2018 Author #133 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, RavenHawk said: No, not on both sides. Talking about violence is vastly different from instigating it. Only Progs regularly encourage violence. There is no comparison. And yet here we have bombs sent to democratically elected representatives and people on the right applauding it... Perhaps they say it less openly but it's clearly there beneath the surface. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted October 24, 2018 #134 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Dark_Grey said: Here is a better view of the back Looks like the clock is strapped directly to the pipe with a single wire taped on each side. I can't see any additional power sources. Could you detonate that with a watch battery? it can be done, not gonna go into details here, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 24, 2018 #135 Share Posted October 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, Setton said: Not if you delight in seeing others employ those methods. I don't. The only thing I want to see is the social system collapse and Darwinism take over. I lived in the ghetto, was involved with politics in the ghetto. Were you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted October 24, 2018 #136 Share Posted October 24, 2018 America is under attack Spoiler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted October 24, 2018 #137 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Dark_Grey said: You might be able to ground to the pipe. The clock itself doesn't seem to have a timer function (it's just a simple clock,) and I can't see another power source behind the clock but it could be the angle. The less complicated the device, the more likely it is to work, generally speaking. Still hard to believe 0 of 5 detonated. I wonder how they set the "timers" taking so many variables in to account not hard at all, fakes ones do not go off, lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted October 24, 2018 #138 Share Posted October 24, 2018 A courier company should be able to trace where these packages came from. Let's see what they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted October 24, 2018 #139 Share Posted October 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Setton said: And yet here we have bombs sent to democratically elected representatives and people on the right applauding it... Perhaps they say it less openly but it's clearly there beneath the surface. They are not applauding it. It’s more of the attitude of “it’s about time”. We’ve had to put up with this from them for a long time. How do they like it now?! But then it can’t be an actual Conservative. It has to be some crazy or a Prog phony bomb plot. Of course, it is under the surface because we bite our tongues on the hypocrisy from the Progressives. If we mention it, then we are spreading violence. Whatever happens, they deserve it. They merit it. That’s not necessarily cheering it, just acknowledging karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted October 24, 2018 #140 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Number of packages seems to be up to 6 now. None need detonation? https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/24/reuters-america-update-6-pipe-bombs-sent-to-top-u-s-democrats-cnn-an-act-of-terror-nyc-mayor.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted October 24, 2018 #141 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Seems one was delivered to Maxine Waters and one was returned to Schultz, as the listed return address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted October 24, 2018 #142 Share Posted October 24, 2018 27 minutes ago, Setton said: Stop thinking 'left and right' and just ask: does this have any place in a democratic society? In the context of what you wrote, there is only Left or Right. You are one or the other. There is no third option. does this have any place in a democratic society? No it doesn’t but the Left has pretty much assured its place. I condemn it all the time and everywhere I find it. Again, get 'left and right' out of your head. As long as Socialism is intertwined in our system, that will be impossible. I haven't mentioned sides. At all. I don't even have a 'side' in left and right - I'm centrist. You are on a side. You reveal it by the way you debate. I’m Centrist. I’m perhaps the most Centrist person on this forum. But I fall onto the Right using your terminology. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted October 24, 2018 #143 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Here's a link. From the link: None of the devices harmed anyone; it was not immediately clear whether any of them could have exploded. One law enforcement official said investigators were examining the possibility that they were hoax devices. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/nyregion/clinton-obama-explosive-device.html Seems none needed detonation before being sent to Quantico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickian Posted October 24, 2018 #144 Share Posted October 24, 2018 So let me get this straight. Multiple bombs were mailed to different locations, the picture of the CNN bomb wasn't postmarked, not a single one exploded(if they are in fact live explosives) and then over half a dozen "news" outlets come out with near identical headlines ridiculing false flag accusations within 2 hours of each other... Nothing to see here but a rabid alt-right terrorist folks! It could genuine, but not much I've read yet make this look to be anything but a false flag unless someone was driving around dropping these off in person in which case surveillance should point them out fairly quickly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted October 24, 2018 #145 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wickian said: So let me get this straight. Multiple bombs were mailed to different locations, the picture of the CNN bomb wasn't postmarked, not a single one exploded(if they are in fact live explosives) and then over half a dozen "news" outlets come out with near identical headlines ridiculing false flag accusations within 2 hours of each other... Nothing to see here but a rabid alt-right terrorist folks! It could genuine, but not much I've read yet make this look to be anything but a false flag unless someone was driving around dropping these off in person in which case surveillance should point them out fairly quickly. It seems whomever used postage stamps but the packages were not delivered by the post office. They were hand delivered by courier. None have been said to have been detonated by a bomb squad. They were secured and sent to Quantico. My link in #144 is from the New York Times. They say a police official told them investigators were looking into the possibility the bombs could be hoaxes. Yep. That's pretty much it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted October 24, 2018 #146 Share Posted October 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Wickian said: So let me get this straight. Multiple bombs were mailed to different locations, the picture of the CNN bomb wasn't postmarked, not a single one exploded(if they are in fact live explosives) and then over half a dozen "news" outlets come out with near identical headlines ridiculing false flag accusations within 2 hours of each other... Nothing to see here but a rabid alt-right terrorist folks! It could genuine, but not much I've read yet make this look to be anything but a false flag unless someone was driving around dropping these off in person in which case surveillance should point them out fairly quickly. How do you even come to the conclusion that it is a false flag? The evidence is leaning towards it being a hoax, but none of the evidence is pointing towards who did it. The guy who send the fake ricin was caught pretty quickly and didn't turn out to be the progressive that everyone here was expecting. You guys are guilty of coming to a conclusion and then trying to find facts to fit that narrative. Why not just wait a few days for the truth. Less mud on ones face then. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickian Posted October 24, 2018 #147 Share Posted October 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Gromdor said: How do you even come to the conclusion that it is a false flag? The evidence is leaning towards it being a hoax, but none of the evidence is pointing towards who did it. The guy who send the fake ricin was caught pretty quickly and didn't turn out to be the progressive that everyone here was expecting. You guys are guilty of coming to a conclusion and then trying to find facts to fit that narrative. Why not just wait a few days for the truth. Less mud on ones face then. Mainly it was the rapid and near identical ridicule to the expected false flag accusations that made me suspicious. I don't feel strongly enough to argue the point once actual evidence is released though since it was most likely some wacko. Given what we know right at this moment though, other things are possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jim Posted October 24, 2018 #148 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I think the American flag stamps were part of the message. Since we now know that at least some of them were hand delivered, and I suspect they all were, the stamps had no purpose whatsoever except to give the idea that they were sent by a flag waving radical, in other words, a Trump supporter. What I'm seeing is a caricature of a bomb colored by someone's idea of what a Conservative would do. The bomb itself looks like it came from the bargain bin at Props-R-Us. The spelling errors, if deliberate, give the impression of someone uneducated, exactly the way Trump supporters are portrayed by the Left. If it's not a poorly executed false flag then my next suspect would be someone around 19 years old just playing games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted October 25, 2018 #149 Share Posted October 25, 2018 If this was as coordinated as it looks then we may never know a suspect, not before the midterms anyways. Just the looming fear of the MAGA Bomber running loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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